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"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message
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> Wound Up wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> Now I'm wondering if there was a carburetor swap OR an engine swap. Do
>>> I have a 390 or a 352? Isn't there supposed to be a tag under the coil
>>> support?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know how easy it is to put a 352 Y block into a car designed for
>> an FE or a Windsor (okay, or a six also).
>
> Or a Cleve DUH
>
> I just think you've got the
>> wrong carburetor.
I hope that's what it is. It'll be this weekend before I can check further.
I had two moles cut off my back this afternoon.
--
John
'69 Mach 1 390 Toploader Acapulco Blue
ThunderSnake #59
"Maximillian Rennquist" <WDSPoontang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Wound Up wrote:
>> John wrote:
>> > Now I'm wondering if there was a carburetor swap OR an engine swap. Do
>> > I
>> > have a 390 or a 352? Isn't there supposed to be a tag under the coil
>> > support?
>> >
>>
>> I don't know how easy it is to put a 352 Y block into a car designed for
>> an FE or a Windsor (okay, or a six also). I just think you've got the
>> wrong carburetor.
>
> Move over, sonny, your embarassing yourself. The 352 is an FE. If the
> car in question is supposed to be and original GT, then there would be
> date codes all over the engine parts. Let me know if you want them
> pointed out.
Sure Max. Where do I look?
--
John
'69 Mach 1 390 Toploader Acapulco Blue
ThunderSnake #59
John wrote:
> "Maximillian Rennquist" <WDSPoontang@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1133487781.393706.250430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Wound Up wrote:
> >> John wrote:
> >> > Now I'm wondering if there was a carburetor swap OR an engine swap. Do
> >> > I
> >> > have a 390 or a 352? Isn't there supposed to be a tag under the coil
> >> > support?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't know how easy it is to put a 352 Y block into a car designed for
> >> an FE or a Windsor (okay, or a six also). I just think you've got the
> >> wrong carburetor.
> >
> > Move over, sonny, your embarassing yourself. The 352 is an FE. If the
> > car in question is supposed to be and original GT, then there would be
> > date codes all over the engine parts. Let me know if you want them
> > pointed out.
>
> Sure Max. Where do I look?
>
> --
> John
> '69 Mach 1 390 Toploader Acapulco Blue
> ThunderSnake #59
First, all of the cylinder heads original to a 352 have the vertical 8
bolt exhaust layout. If any of your bolts are at angles to each other,
you have at least GT heads and manifolds. The manifolds should have
C6OE numbers on them with a 68 or 69 date. The original head for your
car is the common C8AEH, drilled with 14 exhaust bolt holes. The number
is cast in between the two middles spark plugs. The casting date is
under the valve cover(s). The intake will have a date code right on
top, probably behind the carb. Maybe in front. May have a large S on
it. The casting date for the block is stamped into a machined spot near
the oil filter adapter. You have to get under the car to see it. Most
GT's had chrome valve covers and dipstick handles, and probably a
chrome air cleaner lid. The correct carb would be a 600 cfm Holley with
a C9 part number on the choke housing.
"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message
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> Kathy and Erich Coiner wrote:
>> I found the C4AF-R listed on that website.
>> It is for a 1964 352 V8.
>> It is an Autolite 4100. The CFM rating is 600.
>> Not a bad carb, but not for large displacement Big Blocks.
>>
>
> I look at reams of numbers all day long. I must have missed it. Thanks
> for catching what I didn't with Ctrl+F (?!). D'OH
>
> Six hundred? Joe, with a good cam, you need the 750 for your 390. You're
> undercarbureted! More horsies and ft/lbs for you. Does she seem lean or
> does she seem to flatten out at say 4000+?
If it's the '69 390 "Improved Performance" I thought it was, it should have
the same cam as the 428. If it's a 352, I don't know how that's cammed. I
haven't really noticed any flattening out around 4000 RPM. Hell, I was
tickled pink it'd smoke the shit out of 'em off the line, bark 'em in 2nd,
and chirp 'em in 3rd.
She's up for the winter now, so I'll just have to examine what I got this
weekend and report back and see if we can figure it out from date codes and
engine tags.
--
John
'69 Mach 1 390 Toploader Acapulco Blue
ThunderSnake #59
Maximillian Rennquist wrote:
> Wound Up wrote:
>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>Now I'm wondering if there was a carburetor swap OR an engine swap. Do I
>>>have a 390 or a 352? Isn't there supposed to be a tag under the coil
>>>support?
>>>
>>
>>I don't know how easy it is to put a 352 Y block into a car designed for
>>an FE or a Windsor (okay, or a six also). I just think you've got the
>>wrong carburetor.
>>
>>--
>>Wound Up
>>ThunderSnake #65
>
>
> Move over, sonny, your embarassing yourself. The 352 is an FE. If the
> car in question is supposed to be and original GT, then there would be
> date codes all over the engine parts. Let me know if you want them
> pointed out.
>
"Few of us in the hobby can remember a time when the FE series big-block
wasn’t around. That’s because this brute performer was introduced way
back in 1958 in the Ford, Mercury, and Edsel. Back then, the FE was only
a fraction of what it would eventually become. In the beginning, there
were but three versions of the FE displacing 332, 352, and 361 cubic
inches. The 332 and 352 were Ford and Mercury mills, and the 361 was
Edsel only. The all-new FE offered a wealth of potential because there
was room to grow. It was a huge, mighty Y-block design with room for
bore and stroke growth, and so it went. Those hefty block skirts offered
abundant bolstering for the crankshaft main bearing journals, which
would become a significant feature later on when the 406 and 427ci
engines became cross-bolted main bearing affairs."
You gotta be kidding me if you think you can dig yourself out of that
hole you jumped into by pointing out that the Y-block and the FE are
both deep skirts. That's like saying the 348 and the 368 are the same
because they combust in the block. And, to further your embarassment
about the 352 "Y-block" not fitting where a 390 is supposed to be,
learn that Ford stuck the same motor mounts on the FE when it came out
so you could bolt it straight into a Y-block car as an upgrade.
The next time you got to take a piss, try using the bathroom instead of
your computer desk. Drunk punk.
Maximillian Rennquist wrote:
> You gotta be kidding me if you think you can dig yourself out of that
> hole you jumped into by pointing out that the Y-block and the FE are
> both deep skirts. That's like saying the 348 and the 368 are the same
> because they combust in the block. And, to further your embarassment
> about the 352 "Y-block" not fitting where a 390 is supposed to be,
> learn that Ford stuck the same motor mounts on the FE when it came out
> so you could bolt it straight into a Y-block car as an upgrade.
> The next time you got to take a piss, try using the bathroom instead of
> your computer desk. Drunk punk.
>
Oh blah bitty blah I made a ****ing mistake, I do that, so sue me. I
said PISS to indicate my own displeasure at it, and to see how you would
respond. I just got a nice picture.
And, I am thusly educated. Thank you, and I'm not being sarcastic.
Good info.
The real question is, who the **** are you anyway? "Drunk punk?" Why
does your writing style sound so familiar? And why does your header
looks so familiar? I've got an inkling, Jack.
"I just got a nice picture." I've been reading some of the old messages
in this group, and I see where you have admiited drinking to excess.
Wanna talk about pictures? Who the **** am I? Some who's first car had
a 292 with a Clay Smith cam and a 3-speed stick. That was in '55, so
don't give me bull about Y-blocks.
"Maximillian Rennquist" <WDSPoontang@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> John wrote:
>>
>> Sure Max. Where do I look?
>
> First, all of the cylinder heads original to a 352 have the vertical 8
> bolt exhaust layout. If any of your bolts are at angles to each other,
> you have at least GT heads and manifolds. The manifolds should have
> C6OE numbers on them with a 68 or 69 date. The original head for your
> car is the common C8AEH, drilled with 14 exhaust bolt holes. The number
> is cast in between the two middles spark plugs. The casting date is
> under the valve cover(s). The intake will have a date code right on
> top, probably behind the carb. Maybe in front. May have a large S on
> it. The casting date for the block is stamped into a machined spot near
> the oil filter adapter. You have to get under the car to see it. Most
> GT's had chrome valve covers and dipstick handles, and probably a
> chrome air cleaner lid. The correct carb would be a 600 cfm Holley with
> a C9 part number on the choke housing.
>
> I take it you recently bought this car?
>
Yeah, I bought it a few months ago. I know the intake has a big S on onr of
the intake runners in front of the carb and the valve covers and oil
dipstick are chrome, and I *think* the exhaust manifold bolts for the same
port are about 30-45 degrees off vertical from each other. Sounds like I
may have the right intake and heads. I'll look for casting numbers
tomorrow, especially on the block. As interchangeable as the FE is, the
block number is the most important one to know it's a 390.
--
John
'69 Mach 1 390 Toploader Acapulco Blue
ThunderSnake #59
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