Willis

Good afternoon all,

This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
with putting posts up today.

I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler (1972
block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row original
radiator (non-aluminum), and a 6-blade, 18", belt-driven flex fan. The
fan sits approximately 1" from the radiator. The car does not have a
fan shroud. Pics are here - http://photos.yahoo.com/callmewillis

I'm experiencing some overheating while sitting still, and also in a
lot of stop-n-go traffic. Some local Ford experts from 422 Motorsports
in PA suggested that I remove the flex fan and go back to a solid blade
fan. Here are my questions:

Does anyone know what the blade#/style/size/part# is for a solid-fan
for a 1963 big-block Galaxie? Also if so, does anyone know where I can
get one???

If I remove the belt-driven flex fan and go to a solid blade fan, do I
also need to remove the belt-drive system and use a fan clutch? Also,
do I have to use a fan shroud with a solid blade fan, or is it only
recommended?

Thanks!

Jason

Nosey

Willis wrote:
> Good afternoon all,
>
> This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
> with putting posts up today.
>
> I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler
> (1972 block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row
> original radiator (non-aluminum), and a 6-blade, 18", belt-driven
> flex fan. The fan sits approximately 1" from the radiator. The car
> does not have a fan shroud. Pics are here -
> http://photos.yahoo.com/callmewillis
>
> I'm experiencing some overheating while sitting still, and also in a
> lot of stop-n-go traffic. Some local Ford experts from 422
> Motorsports in PA suggested that I remove the flex fan and go back to
> a solid blade fan. Here are my questions:
>
> Does anyone know what the blade#/style/size/part# is for a solid-fan
> for a 1963 big-block Galaxie? Also if so, does anyone know where I
> can get one???
>
> If I remove the belt-driven flex fan and go to a solid blade fan, do I
> also need to remove the belt-drive system and use a fan clutch? Also,
> do I have to use a fan shroud with a solid blade fan, or is it only
> recommended?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jason

Getting a fan shroud might solve all of your cooling problems. Have you
checked to see if the flex-fan is installed backwards?

David M

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:50:38 +0000, Nosey rearranged some electrons to
form:

> Willis wrote:
>> Good afternoon all,
>>
>> This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
>> with putting posts up today.
>>
>> I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler
>> (1972 block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row

>
> Getting a fan shroud might solve all of your cooling problems. Have you
> checked to see if the flex-fan is installed backwards?

Yup, fan shroud.
Without it, you're really not pulling much air through the radiator.
--
David M (dmacchiarolo)
http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
T/S 53
sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 2 days 0 min

John&Michelle

FWIW - A 7 blade clutch fan (off a junkyard Lincon) did wonders for the
(OTSB) engine in my F-350.
I've not, OTOH, had much luck with flex fans.
"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.07.26.23.25.34.498470@sled351...
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:50:38 +0000, Nosey rearranged some electrons to
> form:
>
> > Willis wrote:
> >> Good afternoon all,
> >>
> >> This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
> >> with putting posts up today.
> >>
> >> I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler
> >> (1972 block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row
>
> >
> > Getting a fan shroud might solve all of your cooling problems. Have you
> > checked to see if the flex-fan is installed backwards?
>
> Yup, fan shroud.
> Without it, you're really not pulling much air through the radiator.
> --
> David M (dmacchiarolo)
> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> T/S 53
> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 2 days 0 min
>

Wound Up

"John&Michelle" <jcreed@metrocast.net> wrote in message
news:P_idnUsimflQTnvfRVn-2A@metrocastcablevision.com...
> FWIW - A 7 blade clutch fan (off a junkyard Lincon) did wonders for the
> (OTSB) engine in my F-350.
> I've not, OTOH, had much luck with flex fans.
> "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.07.26.23.25.34.498470@sled351...
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:50:38 +0000, Nosey rearranged some electrons to
>> form:
>>
>> > Willis wrote:
>> >> Good afternoon all,
>> >>
>> >> This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
>> >> with putting posts up today.
>> >>
>> >> I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler
>> >> (1972 block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row
>>
>> >
>> > Getting a fan shroud might solve all of your cooling problems. Have you
>> > checked to see if the flex-fan is installed backwards?

I used to smoke, and I was one day cursing my idle overheat problems on a
"one-year junker" I bought and fixed. Piece of crap, mutter mutter. Then I
saw the smoke from my cigarette blow AWAY from the radiator as I stared at
it.

--
Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

Willis

I believe it's installed correctly - can you check the pictures at
http://photos.yahoo.com/callmewillis ???

Thanks,

Jason

Willis

I'm at my wits end over this freakin overheating problem. I've heard
40 different things that 'could' be it, and I'm just trying to avoid
spending $1000 to fix what may be a $50 problem :)

Thanks for the advice - if the car needs a shroud though, how is it
that factory big blocks back in the 60's without A/C did NOT have
shrouds? From what I understand on the Galaxies the shrouds were only
included if the car came with A/C, which I'm 99% sure that mine did not
(I'd have to decode the plates again).

Jason

Willis

One other thing - the one shroud I've been able to find for the car
comes from dearborn classics, but according to the tech at dearborn
their shroud WON'T work with my car because of fan clearances issues (I
guess unless I went back to an original style fan and clutch).

For the dearborn shroud (you can find it on their site by typing fan
shroud) what size fan was used? Would I HAVE to go back to a clutch
fan?

Jason

Kathy and Erich Coiner

Under what conditions does it overheat?

Sitting in traffic? At speed on the hiway? Only while climbing big hill?
What?

Flex fans suck! 'nuff said.

You can use a rigid fan with or without a fan clutch My 66 Mustang has no
clutch and a rigid fan. My 69 mach1 uses a clutch. The clutch will be
quieter and give slightly better gas mileage.

If you have trouble finding a factory fan. Go to www.derale.com and look
for the rigid fans. They make flex fans too but don't get one of those.
I bought a 15 inch rigid aluminum bladed fan for my Tiger. That thing
sounded like a Cessna on a full power takeoff run, but it sure cooled well.
Eventually I took it off because the noise drove me nuts.

Erich


"Willis" <callmewillis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122406813.557050.327040@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Good afternoon all,
>
> This is my 2nd attempt at a post, since Google seems to be problematic
> with putting posts up today.
>
> I have a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, with a non original 427 sideoiler (1972
> block). The car does not have A/C. The car has a 3-row original
> radiator (non-aluminum), and a 6-blade, 18", belt-driven flex fan. The
> fan sits approximately 1" from the radiator. The car does not have a
> fan shroud. Pics are here - http://photos.yahoo.com/callmewillis
>
> I'm experiencing some overheating while sitting still, and also in a
> lot of stop-n-go traffic. Some local Ford experts from 422 Motorsports
> in PA suggested that I remove the flex fan and go back to a solid blade
> fan. Here are my questions:
>
> Does anyone know what the blade#/style/size/part# is for a solid-fan
> for a 1963 big-block Galaxie? Also if so, does anyone know where I can
> get one???
>
> If I remove the belt-driven flex fan and go to a solid blade fan, do I
> also need to remove the belt-drive system and use a fan clutch? Also,
> do I have to use a fan shroud with a solid blade fan, or is it only
> recommended?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jason
>

STUK

The stock 427 motors I've seen in '63 1/2 & '64 Fords and Mercs have used
the A/C style clutch fan without the shroud. StuK


"Willis" <callmewillis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122430987.453033.20600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> One other thing - the one shroud I've been able to find for the car
> comes from dearborn classics, but according to the tech at dearborn
> their shroud WON'T work with my car because of fan clearances issues (I
> guess unless I went back to an original style fan and clutch).
>
> For the dearborn shroud (you can find it on their site by typing fan
> shroud) what size fan was used? Would I HAVE to go back to a clutch
> fan?
>
> Jason
>