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Old 01-05-2006, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
John
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Fact or fiction?

The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years" by
Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.

In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early '68
Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their words
are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the urban
legend lives on.

HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as an
option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the intake
with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers out
of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."

Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?

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Old 01-05-2006, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

John wrote:
> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years" by
> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>
> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early '68
> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their words
> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the urban
> legend lives on.
>
> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as an
> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the intake
> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers out
> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>
> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>


If I recall correctly, there were a small number of '67 GT-500
medium-riser 427s made.


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Old 01-05-2006, 23:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
made.

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>>Jason

"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"

by
> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>
> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

'68
> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

words
> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

urban
> legend lives on.
>
> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as

an
> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

intake
> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

out
> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>
> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>
> --
> John - ThunderSnake #59
> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
>
>
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 23:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

Not a single 427 was put in a '67 by Shelby?

Jason wrote:
> I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
> made.
>
> --
>
>>>Jason

>>

> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
>
>>The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"

>
> by
>
>>Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>>
>>In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

>
> '68
>
>>Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

>
> words
>
>>are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

>
> urban
>
>>legend lives on.
>>
>>HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
>>the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as

>
> an
>
>>option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
>>GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
>>offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
>>subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

>
> intake
>
>>with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
>>horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

>
> out
>
>>of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>>
>>Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>>
>>--
>>John - ThunderSnake #59
>>'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>>Wide Ratio Toploader
>>3.50 Traction-Lok
>>Acapulco Blue
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 23:01   #5 (permalink)
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HISS BILL S. -> Re: Fact or fiction?

BILL S.?! Methinks need thy weigh-in on this topic, o Shelby cognoscenti.

Jason wrote:
> I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
> made.
>
> --
>
>>>Jason

>>

> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
>
>>The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"

>
> by
>
>>Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>>
>>In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

>
> '68
>
>>Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

>
> words
>
>>are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

>
> urban
>
>>legend lives on.
>>
>>HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
>>the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as

>
> an
>
>>option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
>>GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued to
>>offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
>>subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

>
> intake
>
>>with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
>>horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

>
> out
>
>>of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>>
>>Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>>
>>--
>>John - ThunderSnake #59
>>'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>>Wide Ratio Toploader
>>3.50 Traction-Lok
>>Acapulco Blue
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 23:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?


"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal> wrote in message
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> Not a single 427 was put in a '67 by Shelby?
>


Not from the Factory. But it is the Bigfoot legend amongst the Mustang. This
is just what I've heard and read over the years but from reliable sources.

Just think with all the hype from the B/J prices don't you think anyone with
a finger on the keys of such a car would fly outa the chicken coop hoping to
make a buck?

--
>>Jason



> Jason wrote:
> > I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
> > made.
> >
> > --
> >
> >>>Jason
> >>

> > "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> > news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
> >
> >>The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40

Years"
> >
> > by
> >
> >>Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
> >>
> >>In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

> >
> > '68
> >
> >>Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

> >
> > words
> >
> >>are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

> >
> > urban
> >
> >>legend lives on.
> >>
> >>HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this

about
> >>the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine

as
> >
> > an
> >
> >>option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> >>GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued

to
> >>offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500.

They
> >>subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

> >
> > intake
> >
> >>with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> >>horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

> >
> > out
> >
> >>of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
> >>
> >>Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
> >>
> >>--
> >>John - ThunderSnake #59
> >>'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> >>Wide Ratio Toploader
> >>3.50 Traction-Lok
> >>Acapulco Blue
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> >

>
>
> --
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Old 01-06-2006, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

You do realize that "gospel" generally denotes truth? Perhaps you meant
gossip? :-)


"Jason" <Jason@NoOneHome.net> wrote in message
news:aJnvf.4626$ZA5.4585@fed1read05...
>I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
> made.
>
> --
>>>Jason

> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
>> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40 Years"

> by
>> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>>
>> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

> '68
>> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

> words
>> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

> urban
>> legend lives on.
>>
>> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this about
>> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine as

> an
>> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
>> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued
>> to
>> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500. They
>> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

> intake
>> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
>> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

> out
>> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>>
>> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>>
>> --
>> John - ThunderSnake #59
>> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>> Wide Ratio Toploader
>> 3.50 Traction-Lok
>> Acapulco Blue
>>
>>
>>
>>

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>



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Old 01-06-2006, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

Jason wrote:
> "Wound Up" <none@your.disposal> wrote in message
> news:43BE0A1A.1010104@your.disposal...
>
>>Not a single 427 was put in a '67 by Shelby?
>>

>
>
> Not from the Factory. But it is the Bigfoot legend amongst the Mustang. This
> is just what I've heard and read over the years but from reliable sources.
>


I have heard both sides too. If anyone knows for sure, I have to
believe it would be Bill S. He'll show up at some point...

> Just think with all the hype from the B/J prices don't you think anyone with
> a finger on the keys of such a car would fly outa the chicken coop hoping to
> make a buck?
>


That is a good point.

> --
>
>>>Jason

>>

>
>
>>Jason wrote:
>>
>>>I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
>>>made.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Jason
>>>>
>>>"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
>>>news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40
>>>

> Years"
>
>>>by
>>>
>>>
>>>>Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>>>>
>>>>In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early
>>>
>>>'68
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their
>>>
>>>words
>>>
>>>
>>>>are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the
>>>
>>>urban
>>>
>>>
>>>>legend lives on.
>>>>
>>>>HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this
>>>

> about
>
>>>>the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine
>>>

> as
>
>>>an
>>>
>>>
>>>>option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
>>>>GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued
>>>

> to
>
>>>>offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500.
>>>

> They
>
>>>>subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the
>>>
>>>intake
>>>
>>>
>>>>with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
>>>>horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers
>>>
>>>out
>>>
>>>
>>>>of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>>>>
>>>>Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>John - ThunderSnake #59
>>>>'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>>>>Wide Ratio Toploader
>>>>3.50 Traction-Lok
>>>>Acapulco Blue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>--
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>>
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Old 01-06-2006, 16:01   #9 (permalink)
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I have only ever seen one "W" Code Mustang in my lifetime, and according
to Kevin Marti it does not exist......painted a horrid shade of yellow
and sporting a fully chromed none stock engine, but the "W" stamp made
me think "WTF is that for an engine code" and the image of that stamping
has been stuck in my head ever since......As for the "W" Code GT500,
sorry, strictly fiction based on actual records from the Shelby shop
itself........

As another side note, I owned a late production 1968 "Q" Code Mustang
convertible for a spell back in 1991, again a car that Kevin Marti says
does not exist......In reality, the car was original destined to become
a GT500 convertible, but somewhere along the line, the order was
cancelled and the car was sold to some unsuspecting new car buyer. The
person I sold the car to in 1992 held it for a year before selling it to
someone in Maine (go figure). All attempts at tracking the car from
there have hit a brick wall. Besides my first Mustang convertible, a non
descript 1971 "F" code, automatic with PS and PDB (sitting in the mud up
to it's sills not 8 miles from my home, and no, not for sale), this is
the one I've been chasing since 2000..........

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Wound Up wrote:

> BILL S.?! Methinks need thy weigh-in on this topic, o Shelby cognoscenti.
>
> Jason wrote:
>
>> I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
>> made.
>>
>> --
>>
>>>> Jason
>>>
>>>

>> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
>> news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
>>
>>> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40
>>> Years"

>>
>>
>> by
>>
>>> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
>>>
>>> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some early

>>
>>
>> '68
>>
>>> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

>>
>>
>> words
>>
>>> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

>>
>>
>> urban
>>
>>> legend lives on.
>>>
>>> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this
>>> about
>>> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler
>>> engine as

>>
>>
>> an
>>
>>> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
>>> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford
>>> continued to
>>> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500.
>>> They
>>> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

>>
>>
>> intake
>>
>>> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
>>> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk buyers

>>
>>
>> out
>>
>>> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
>>>
>>> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
>>>
>>> --
>>> John - ThunderSnake #59
>>> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>>> Wide Ratio Toploader
>>> 3.50 Traction-Lok
>>> Acapulco Blue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>

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Old 01-06-2006, 17:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Fact or fiction?

Yea my mistake. But the gospel doesn't hold much water for me either.

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"351CJ" <351CJ@msn.com> wrote in message news:Zwwvf.6$ww5.2@trnddc01...
> You do realize that "gospel" generally denotes truth? Perhaps you meant
> gossip? :-)
>
>
> "Jason" <Jason@NoOneHome.net> wrote in message
> news:aJnvf.4626$ZA5.4585@fed1read05...
> >I have hear that its just gospel. Even heard from Marti no W codes were
> > made.
> >
> > --
> >>>Jason

> > "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> > news:t4hvf.12$%l.9@fe02.lga...
> >> The wifey gave me a new Mustang book for Christmas. "Mustang - 40

Years"
> > by
> >> Randy Leffingwell and David Newhardt.
> >>
> >> In Chapter 6 (1967 - 1968.5), the authors do not directly say some

early
> > '68
> >> Mustangs had the W-code engine, but they do not deny it either. Their

> > words
> >> are somewhat unclear and could be interpreted a couple of ways, so the

> > urban
> >> legend lives on.
> >>
> >> HOWEVER, in Chapter 7 (Shelby Mustang's 1967 - 1968), they say this

about
> >> the 1967 GT500, "Shelby was able to offer the 427-ci side oiler engine

as
> > an
> >> option later, but they produced fewer than 50 examples." For the 1968
> >> GT500, they say, "In addition to the 302-powered GT350s, Ford continued
> >> to
> >> offer the rare 427-ci side oiler engine as an option for the GT500.

They
> >> subdued it's noise quotient by using hydraulic lifters and fitted the

> > intake
> >> with the Holley 600-cfm carburetor. They rated the package at 400
> >> horsepower at 5,600 rpm. However, dealers did their best to talk

buyers
> > out
> >> of it, and Shelby once again delivered fewer than 50."
> >>
> >> Is the W-code GT500 fact or fiction? Has anyone seen one?
> >>
> >> --
> >> John - ThunderSnake #59
> >> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> >> Wide Ratio Toploader
> >> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> >> Acapulco Blue
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

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