BW

I am looking for documented, published dyno reports, preferably done by
Ford, for the 427 Side Oiler that powered the 427 Cobra among others.
Yes, I know the approximate figures, and I have seen peak figure claims,
but I am looking for vintage testing reports (e.g. Hot Rod,
Hi-Performance Cars, etc.) with actual rpm/dyno figures.

I've been all over Google with every search inquiry I could think of and
the information eludes me.

Any help is much appreciated.

BW
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"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind."
- Albert Einstein.


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Wound Up

Oh, BILLIE!!! I HISS AT THEE, and summon thee forth

Bill S. has actual experience with everything you speak of. Bill can speak
about what he's seen and built.

Just don't listen to 180out or Patrick (NoOp5L). All they do is regurgitate
public information you've already seen. And as such, they are worth no more
than the piles of puke they produce.

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Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

"BW" <1969zl1xvettex@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:42E2AF16.CED73C10@earthlink.net...
>I am looking for documented, published dyno reports, preferably done by
> Ford, for the 427 Side Oiler that powered the 427 Cobra among others.
> Yes, I know the approximate figures, and I have seen peak figure claims,
> but I am looking for vintage testing reports (e.g. Hot Rod,
> Hi-Performance Cars, etc.) with actual rpm/dyno figures.
>
> I've been all over Google with every search inquiry I could think of and
> the information eludes me.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> BW
> --
> "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind."
> - Albert Einstein.
>
>
> Remove both letters "x" in email address to reply.

one80out@hotmail.com

I don't think you'll find what you're looking for. But my two cents is
to take the as-tested weight from any given 427 Cobra magazine story,
and the trap speed in the quarter mile, and use the trap speed
horsepower formula to get rearwheel horsepower, i.e., rwhp = (trap
speed/234)^3 * weight. Then divide by 0.80 to account for a 20%
drivetrain loss. That will give you a ballpark figure, although
without any of the corrections for altitude, barometric pressure, etc.,
that a dyno cell would use.

As far as Pound Pup's comments, he's a strange guy who drinks and
smokes too much and is given to these bipolar outbursts. You can take
my advice or leave it, likewise as to Bill S., as you wish. It's sad
that one of the few on-topic threads in months comes along and from the
gun Pound Pup wants to turn it into a flame fest.

180 Out

Wound Up

Oopsie... I was just melting away in the hot tub, (the air actually heated
the water today) and Usenet percolated forth among other random thoughts,
like "I'm glad I don't have the disease where your skin falls off".

I forgot about my truce with 180 with this post. I guess just I reverted to
olden times. I don't even actually know if anyone's listening, but the
group suddenly took the tone of "someone farted in here".

If you guys were listening, and are righteously pissed, I retract my
statment. It just seemed this place needed a roust, and I know who to poke
in the ribs, that's all. No harm was intended. Pat and Bill aren't
worthless piles of puke. Continuez donc.

I'm a bit grouchy. All this sobriety makes me damned irritable. And, it's
1000 degrees outside.

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Wound Up
ThunderSnake #65

"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message
news:4RzEe.2185$Ok6.260@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> Oh, BILLIE!!! I HISS AT THEE, and summon thee forth
>
> Bill S. has actual experience with everything you speak of. Bill can
> speak about what he's seen and built.
>
> Just don't listen to 180out or Patrick (NoOp5L). All they do is
> regurgitate public information you've already seen. And as such, they are
> worth no more than the piles of puke they produce.
>
> --
> Wound Up
> ThunderSnake #65
>
> "BW" <1969zl1xvettex@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:42E2AF16.CED73C10@earthlink.net...
>>I am looking for documented, published dyno reports, preferably done by
>> Ford, for the 427 Side Oiler that powered the 427 Cobra among others.
>> Yes, I know the approximate figures, and I have seen peak figure claims,
>> but I am looking for vintage testing reports (e.g. Hot Rod,
>> Hi-Performance Cars, etc.) with actual rpm/dyno figures.
>>
>> I've been all over Google with every search inquiry I could think of and
>> the information eludes me.
>>
>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>> BW
>> --
>> "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind."
>> - Albert Einstein.
>>
>>
>> Remove both letters "x" in email address to reply.
>
>

G Girard

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...11/bomber.html




On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:55:48 GMT, BW <1969zl1xvettex@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>I am looking for documented, published dyno reports, preferably done by
>Ford, for the 427 Side Oiler that powered the 427 Cobra among others.
>Yes, I know the approximate figures, and I have seen peak figure claims,
>but I am looking for vintage testing reports (e.g. Hot Rod,
>Hi-Performance Cars, etc.) with actual rpm/dyno figures.
>
>I've been all over Google with every search inquiry I could think of and
>the information eludes me.
>
>Any help is much appreciated.
>
>BW

BW

Thanx.

BW

G Girard wrote:
>
> http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/...11/bomber.html
>
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:55:48 GMT, BW <1969zl1xvettex@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I am looking for documented, published dyno reports, preferably done by
> >Ford, for the 427 Side Oiler that powered the 427 Cobra among others.
> >Yes, I know the approximate figures, and I have seen peak figure claims,
> >but I am looking for vintage testing reports (e.g. Hot Rod,
> >Hi-Performance Cars, etc.) with actual rpm/dyno figures.
> >
> >I've been all over Google with every search inquiry I could think of and
> >the information eludes me.
> >
> >Any help is much appreciated.
> >
> >BW

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one80out@hotmail.com

Here's another story on a non-stock FE, albeit a 498:
http://popularhotrodding.com/enginem...5em_sideoiler/

A dyno pull showed 515 hp @ 5000, 590 lb-ft @ 4000. Pretty
underwhelming.

Bill S.

Better late than never................
Disclaimer:All HP and TQ figures based on actual rear wheel results +18%
for drivetrain losses

Stock, 24,400 mile original 1970 428CJ Mach I
(actual dyno numbers as performed 6/06/05)
367hp 394ft/lbs of torque

Stock 3,672 mile 427 "street" cobra w/1-4V
(actual dyno numbers as performed 6/06/05)
399hp 467ft/lbs of torque

Stock 22,200 mile original 1967 427 Corvette 1-4V
(actual dyno numbers as performed 6/06/05)
401hp 422ft/lbs of torque

Stock 2,400 mile original Hemi Cuda
(actual dyno numbers as performed 6/06/05)
418hp 451ft/lbs of torque

Look for the write up in a "unmentioned" (due to contractual
obligations) Muscle car magazine some time in January 06


TS#15


Wound Up wrote:

> Oh, BILLIE!!! I HISS AT THEE, and summon thee forth
>
> Bill S. has actual experience with everything you speak of. Bill can speak
> about what he's seen and built.
>
> Just don't listen to 180out or Patrick (NoOp5L). All they do is regurgitate
> public information you've already seen. And as such, they are worth no more
> than the piles of puke they produce.
>

Stan Weiss

Between 580 and 590 lb-ft of torque from 3000 to 4400 is one sweet
street engine. In that 2515 lb car it maybe to much.
Stan

one80out@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Here's another story on a non-stock FE, albeit a 498:
> http://popularhotrodding.com/enginem...5em_sideoiler/
>
> A dyno pull showed 515 hp @ 5000, 590 lb-ft @ 4000. Pretty
> underwhelming.

one80out@hotmail.com

Stan Weiss wrote:

> Between 580 and 590 lb-ft of torque from 3000 to 4400 is one sweet
> street engine. In that 2515 lb car it maybe to much.

No doubt. What I mean is that 515 hp is not a big number for a 498 ci
engine costing as much as this one must have. Aluminum block and
heads, billet crank, one-off fuel injection, even a one-off oil pan.
We're talking $20,000 retail. I'll bet Big Al and his friend Pat get
the same numbers out of their 460's for one-tenth the outlay.

180 Out