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Old 12-31-2005, 19:01   #1 (permalink)
CobraJet
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OFF-TOPIC NEW YEAR'S THREAD

Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.

Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...

http://www.radionigel.com

Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
perspective.

A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
it. Not the trans. The whole car.

You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
in another thread.

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Old 01-01-2006, 08:01   #2 (permalink)
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Not sure if this is OT, but it is FORD powered and I would say take BBA
to ride.
http://www.honestcharley.com/V860.htm
Stan

CobraJet wrote:
>
> Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
>
> Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
>
> http://www.radionigel.com
>
> Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> perspective.
>
> A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> it. Not the trans. The whole car.
>
> You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> in another thread.
>
> CobraJet
>
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
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"CobraJet" <coiled@basking.hiss> wrote in message
news:311220051908420081%coiled@basking.hiss...
> Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
>
> Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
>
> http://www.radionigel.com
>
> Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> perspective.


Have you tried George Dickel? It's made about 15 miles away from the Jack
Daniels distillery in Cascade Hollows, TN.

> A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> it. Not the trans. The whole car.


Nice, I have a friend that puts his winter projects in his family room.
Very convenient!

> You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> in another thread.


By the way, did you see the pics of my ride over in auto pics?

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Old 01-01-2006, 09:02   #4 (permalink)
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The only time during the year I can talk about my car. 2000 Mustang GT
(4.6l SOHC) 5 speed. It needs rear brakes and front soon. I was looking
at Hawk HPS Pads. Has anyone used these or the Hawk HP Plus pads? Any
other pads you have used for improved braking for the street?
Stan

CobraJet wrote:
>
> Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
>
> Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
>
> http://www.radionigel.com
>
> Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> perspective.
>
> A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> it. Not the trans. The whole car.
>
> You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> in another thread.
>
> CobraJet
>
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:01   #5 (permalink)
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In article <JGStf.5718$nj1.5480@fe06.lga>, John
<mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote:

> "CobraJet" <coiled@basking.hiss> wrote in message
> news:311220051908420081%coiled@basking.hiss...
> > Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
> >
> > Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> > boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> > fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
> >
> > http://www.radionigel.com
> >
> > Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> > Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> > perspective.


I meant 80 proof above, which is of course 40% alcohol.

>
> Have you tried George Dickel? It's made about 15 miles away from the Jack
> Daniels distillery in Cascade Hollows, TN.


I've seen that here and there, but I've never tried it. Is it still
86 proof?

>
> > A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> > trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> > under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> > Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> > back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> > it. Not the trans. The whole car.

>
> Nice, I have a friend that puts his winter projects in his family room.
> Very convenient!


At some point in my project, it won't be possible to do anymore. But
for now I can get it stripped out and start setting up the race parts.

>
> > You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> > there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> > from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> > months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> > in another thread.

>
> By the way, did you see the pics of my ride over in auto pics?


Yes, I did. Nice car. I see there was a question about the integrity
of some repairs.

CobraJet

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Old 01-01-2006, 11:01   #6 (permalink)
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In article <43B806FE.BD6921F1@erols.com>, Stan Weiss
<srweiss@erols.com> wrote:

> The only time during the year I can talk about my car. 2000 Mustang GT
> (4.6l SOHC) 5 speed. It needs rear brakes and front soon. I was looking
> at Hawk HPS Pads. Has anyone used these or the Hawk HP Plus pads? Any
> other pads you have used for improved braking for the street?
> Stan


The only name I see popping up is Performance Friction. You might
try finding out what your local police department uses on their Vics.
They usually don't put cheap crap on their cars.

CobraJet

>
> CobraJet wrote:
> >
> > Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.


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Old 01-01-2006, 11:01   #7 (permalink)
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In article <43B7F73C.4841EC03@erols.com>, Stan Weiss
<srweiss@erols.com> wrote:

> Not sure if this is OT, but it is FORD powered and I would say take BBA
> to ride.
> http://www.honestcharley.com/V860.htm


Hmm. I dunno. 6:1 compression and only 60 horsepower? Is that
physically smaller than the later flatties?

> Stan
>
> CobraJet wrote:
> >
> > Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.


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Old 01-01-2006, 14:01   #8 (permalink)
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CobraJet wrote:
> Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
>
> Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
>
> http://www.radionigel.com
>
> Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> perspective.
>
> A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> it. Not the trans. The whole car.
>
> You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> in another thread.
>
> CobraJet
>


Hey CJ, good to see you're back. Funny how age is so relative, huh?

Well I haven't much on-topic these days to discuss, although I've been
trying. My Mustang project's issues have been discussed, and many here
have helped me (thx again all). Now I just need money, and to direct my
anger about it into the compulsive drive to make it work.

I do have one derisive story about GM. Against my better judgment, my
wife and I bought a 99 Saturn four-door for her three years ago. Three
days before the warranty expired, I had the timing chain looked at.

The little bastard ended up needing a new DOHC timing set, a complete
top-end job, and because of THAT mess, new rod bearings and rings.
Increasing oil consumption and worsening color really troubled me. Now
I know why. It took them two weeks to fix it at this time of year.
Fine, give me a loaner at $30 / day, it's GM's money.

What a piece of shit! This story could easily be about an '80s Chrysler
K variation product. I do love it when service managers lie, banking on
ignorance, and I just soberly stand there and say everything they hope I
won't. They were very happy to see me go. Oh - 69,000 miles. The
mechanic shook his head, and said I -might- get that many more out of
it. "Sorry pal, just be glad you thought to get the warranty, I guess".
Their cost on the job was $2,100. The warranty cost $1,500. Ha.

Other than that... what's going on...

My Tempo soliders on, ITS 2.3 untouched after 201,000, still getting 28+
mpg. I made sure Saturn heard about that.

I had a root canal on the 28th, but am enjoying my Vicodin

I survived another holiday season without using the words "bail",
"charges", "retainer" or "accident"

And as you may have read, my wife got me an ABA gift pack.

What's with the JD down to 80 proof? Profit margins squeezed? Wussies.

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Old 01-01-2006, 16:01   #9 (permalink)
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In article <43B84F70.5060909@your.disposal>, Wound Up
<none@your.disposal> wrote:

> CobraJet wrote:
> > Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
> >
> > Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
> > boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
> > fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
> >
> > http://www.radionigel.com
> >
> > Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
> > Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
> > perspective.
> >
> > A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
> > trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
> > under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
> > Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
> > back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
> > it. Not the trans. The whole car.
> >
> > You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
> > there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
> > from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
> > months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
> > in another thread.
> >
> > CobraJet
> >

>
> Hey CJ, good to see you're back. Funny how age is so relative, huh?


I have a feeling that his wife had a major role in convincing him
that an extra "toy" was not "necessary". I've seen this repeatedly over
the years. Of course, he could not actually admit to it, so he ran some
"ailments" past me as an excuse. Works for me. As long as I get a
smoking deal on something, I couldn't care less what pussy-whip hell
the guy has to continue enduring.

>
> Well I haven't much on-topic these days to discuss, although I've been
> trying. My Mustang project's issues have been discussed, and many here
> have helped me (thx again all). Now I just need money, and to direct my
> anger about it into the compulsive drive to make it work.
>
> I do have one derisive story about GM. Against my better judgment, my
> wife and I bought a 99 Saturn four-door for her three years ago. Three
> days before the warranty expired, I had the timing chain looked at.
>
> The little bastard ended up needing a new DOHC timing set, a complete
> top-end job, and because of THAT mess, new rod bearings and rings.
> Increasing oil consumption and worsening color really troubled me. Now
> I know why. It took them two weeks to fix it at this time of year.
> Fine, give me a loaner at $30 / day, it's GM's money.
>
> What a piece of shit! This story could easily be about an '80s Chrysler
> K variation product. I do love it when service managers lie, banking on
> ignorance, and I just soberly stand there and say everything they hope I
> won't. They were very happy to see me go. Oh - 69,000 miles. The
> mechanic shook his head, and said I -might- get that many more out of
> it. "Sorry pal, just be glad you thought to get the warranty, I guess".
> Their cost on the job was $2,100. The warranty cost $1,500. Ha.
>
> Other than that... what's going on...
>
> My Tempo soliders on, ITS 2.3 untouched after 201,000, still getting 28+
> mpg. I made sure Saturn heard about that.


While you have had good luck with your Tempo, I think cheap little
cars with cheap little engines aren't as economical as most people are
led to believe. The cost of repairs eventually outweighs anything saved
at the gas pump. And if you dump them early enough before anything
major crops up, you are back into payments all over again.

One place where such people are getting reamed is the trans shop. I
have a friend who's been in the biz for a long time, and I have been
privy to the actual cost of rebuilding these front-drive and newer OD
boxes. Let me tell you, the profit is obscene. And, they are all in the
same scheme, so the customer doesn't get too far trying to price shop.
What's been happening for the past decade at least is that the cost of
rebuilding the trans in a typical shitbox has been falling in the $1500
to $2000 range, and many people are opting out of fixing and instead
picking up another running shitbox. Problem for some is they are stuck
with a bill for removal and teardown to inspect that is often a few
hundred bucks alone, and they wind up never fetching the car back.

Said friend recently left the shop he was at when the owner got
burned out and decided to do something else. There were 14 abandoned
customer cars out back that had to go and go quick. I bagged two and
the rest went to salvage. If I knew how to rebuild tx's, I could have
picked up several of the rest and made some damn good money.

Basic 50's/60's/70's remain, IMO, the truly most economical vehicles
anywhere.

>
> I had a root canal on the 28th, but am enjoying my Vicodin


Pansy. Soak your gums in whiskey like your forefathers did.

>
> I survived another holiday season without using the words "bail",
> "charges", "retainer" or "accident"
>
> And as you may have read, my wife got me an ABA gift pack.


Kool. And I also read where Laurie confirmed Keller's thought that I
am indeed the fellow on the label. You guys are obviously trying to
butter me up.

>
> What's with the JD down to 80 proof? Profit margins squeezed? Wussies.


Evidently this is just another chapter in the de-evolution of
America. WE ARE DEVO!!

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Old 01-01-2006, 18:01   #10 (permalink)
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CobraJet wrote:
> In article <43B84F70.5060909@your.disposal>, Wound Up
> <none@your.disposal> wrote:
>
>
>>CobraJet wrote:
>>
>>> Anything goes in this thread until it peters out.
>>>
>>> Forgoing the local festivities tonight. Instead, I think I'll be
>>>boozing at home and pumping Nigel. No, not THAT pumping, you
>>>fagginiferous sploogenators. THIS Nigel...
>>>
>>> http://www.radionigel.com
>>>
>>> Jack Daniel's has punked to 40 proof, so I think a little Wild
>>>Turkey with an Arrogant Bastard back oughta put things into
>>>perspective.
>>>
>>> A couple months ago I was out on a terror run in the Brougham,
>>>trying to shellac what was left of the Cleveland after a cacaphony
>>>under the pass side valve cover developed from the previous terror run.
>>>Instead, something in the C4 went to hell and I barely slithered it
>>>back to the Snake Pit. I put it in the living room so I can diddle with
>>>it. Not the trans. The whole car.
>>>
>>> You know me; grenade one buy another. The motto is printed right
>>>there on my birth certificate. So I bagged a '66 Futura Sport Coupe
>>>from a guy who said he is too old to work on cars anymore. He's eight
>>>months older than me. This is the car I need to sort the brakes on, but
>>>in another thread.
>>>
>>> CobraJet
>>>

>>
>>Hey CJ, good to see you're back. Funny how age is so relative, huh?

>
>
> I have a feeling that his wife had a major role in convincing him
> that an extra "toy" was not "necessary". I've seen this repeatedly over
> the years. Of course, he could not actually admit to it, so he ran some
> "ailments" past me as an excuse. Works for me. As long as I get a
> smoking deal on something, I couldn't care less what pussy-whip hell
> the guy has to continue enduring.
>


Too bad for him, and all too familiar. Worked out well for you, so
there it is. My dad recently acquiesced to this type of thing, and I
can tell he's sad. He's 67, but who the hell cares? At 77, he will
probably regret this, but I can't tell him anything...

I'd told my wife I've felt like selling the car once or twice, and to
paraphrase her, "you're ****ing sad for even considering it, so quit
whining about it, and do what you set out to do." Like watching her
step up and absolutely *dust* that clay bird over New Year's at about 75
yards, first and only try. Rrarr.

>
>>Well I haven't much on-topic these days to discuss, although I've been
>>trying. My Mustang project's issues have been discussed, and many here
>>have helped me (thx again all). Now I just need money, and to direct my
>>anger about it into the compulsive drive to make it work.
>>
>>I do have one derisive story about GM. Against my better judgment, my
>>wife and I bought a 99 Saturn four-door for her three years ago. Three
>>days before the warranty expired, I had the timing chain looked at.
>>
>>The little bastard ended up needing a new DOHC timing set, a complete
>>top-end job, and because of THAT mess, new rod bearings and rings.
>>Increasing oil consumption and worsening color really troubled me. Now
>>I know why. It took them two weeks to fix it at this time of year.
>>Fine, give me a loaner at $30 / day, it's GM's money.
>>
>>What a piece of shit! This story could easily be about an '80s Chrysler
>>K variation product. I do love it when service managers lie, banking on
>>ignorance, and I just soberly stand there and say everything they hope I
>>won't. They were very happy to see me go. Oh - 69,000 miles. The
>>mechanic shook his head, and said I -might- get that many more out of
>>it. "Sorry pal, just be glad you thought to get the warranty, I guess".
>> Their cost on the job was $2,100. The warranty cost $1,500. Ha.
>>
>>Other than that... what's going on...
>>
>>My Tempo soliders on, ITS 2.3 untouched after 201,000, still getting 28+
>>mpg. I made sure Saturn heard about that.

>
>
> While you have had good luck with your Tempo, I think cheap little
> cars with cheap little engines aren't as economical as most people are
> led to believe. The cost of repairs eventually outweighs anything saved
> at the gas pump. And if you dump them early enough before anything
> major crops up, you are back into payments all over again.
>


Yeah, I've proven that theory true twice now. I'm glad the Tempo has
only cost me what it has so far. This argument is why my next newer-car
purchase has me thinking Vic or Grand Marquis. It's also why I'm
thinking screw ALL of 'em, just find something old and solid, and put
a/c in it.

You've got a Vic, don't you? What do you think of 'em? I have a local
PI re-seller's phone #, although I'd favor a newer Marquis driven by
grandparents

> One place where such people are getting reamed is the trans shop. I
> have a friend who's been in the biz for a long time, and I have been
> privy to the actual cost of rebuilding these front-drive and newer OD
> boxes. Let me tell you, the profit is obscene. And, they are all in the
> same scheme, so the customer doesn't get too far trying to price shop.
> What's been happening for the past decade at least is that the cost of
> rebuilding the trans in a typical shitbox has been falling in the $1500
> to $2000 range, and many people are opting out of fixing and instead
> picking up another running shitbox. Problem for some is they are stuck
> with a bill for removal and teardown to inspect that is often a few
> hundred bucks alone, and they wind up never fetching the car back.
>


Ugh. Ridiculous!! Up to two grand, huh? Bend over, and here's your
shitty warranty in its neat little envelope.

I don't like auto transaxles period. Torque steer, poor throttle
modulation. I've owned three RWD autos, only one OD. I consider the
ODs merely acceptable in terms of "worth it or not". ODs are (last I
checked) double the cost to buy or rebuild, and too many people also
never take them OUT of OD. The Cougar had was on its 2nd one, needing a
3rd, at 128k... my dad has had similar problems with SB Chivvys and Mercs.

> Said friend recently left the shop he was at when the owner got
> burned out and decided to do something else. There were 14 abandoned
> customer cars out back that had to go and go quick. I bagged two and
> the rest went to salvage. If I knew how to rebuild tx's, I could have
> picked up several of the rest and made some damn good money.
>


There are many, many opportunities out there. But at least you got
-some- of the pickings. Just learned my cousin Chuck is a regional
manager for AutoZone in Reno. He has the same love of these cars as we
do. Maybe I'll ask him to drop by. Don't know what he's got at
present, though.

> Basic 50's/60's/70's remain, IMO, the truly most economical vehicles
> anywhere.
>


The other thought I have is a nice '70-'71 Maverick. I could swap in my
SB drivetrain, put aftermarket a/c in it, and then dump the money I
saved on no payments and other crap into the FE drivetrain for the
Mustang. Fuel savings do become irrelevant if you're not writing checks
every month. Even $185 pisses me off.

>
>>I had a root canal on the 28th, but am enjoying my Vicodin

>
>
> Pansy. Soak your gums in whiskey like your forefathers did.
>


But ME, turning down pills? Really, now

>
>>I survived another holiday season without using the words "bail",
>>"charges", "retainer" or "accident"
>>
>>And as you may have read, my wife got me an ABA gift pack.

>
>
> Kool. And I also read where Laurie confirmed Keller's thought that I
> am indeed the fellow on the label. You guys are obviously trying to
> butter me up.
>


Seems like it got your attention, anyway.

>
>>What's with the JD down to 80 proof? Profit margins squeezed? Wussies.

>
>
> Evidently this is just another chapter in the de-evolution of
> America. WE ARE DEVO!!
>


It's all a sad bunch of bland crap. I sometimes sit back and wonder how
people just accept the melba toast, dumb and dumberer status quo, and
don't ever question a damned thing. Sickening, isn't it?

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