Big Al

"CobraJet" <coiled@basking.hiss> wrote in message
news:110120061846324688%coiled@basking.hiss...
> In article <Xns9748729D3C37HareBallSPAMSUCKScom@216.196.97.136>,
> HareBall <HareBall@SPAMSUCKScomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > David M <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in
> > news:pan.2006.01.11.04.11.27.158403@sled351:
> >
> > >> I cannot imagine them lasting very long in a market economy. You
> > >> want an idea of the probable quality? Think "Eastern Bloc Trabbie",
> > >> that 2-stroke piece of crap that the masses waited years to buy.
> > >
> > > Maybe so, but they are one of the sponsors no less of the
> > > North American Auto Show. Read the link, it describes their
> > > methodical plan for ramping up their cars into the US,
> > > by starting in Puerto Rico.
> > >
> > > It's dangerous to underestimate the Chinese. You may be
> > > too young to remember when Made In Japan signified cheap
> > > and crappy.
> > >
> > > Not to get back to my other thread, but like it or not,
> > > Chinese 'crap' is what drives the engine of the world's
> > > largest retailer, WalMart, not to mention their distant
> > > competitors Kmart, Targert, Carrefour, etc. No matter how
> > > crappy the merchandise, WalMart proves there is a market
> > > for it.
>
> Well, if the Chinese can sell me a new 14-second buzz bomb for 7
> grand, and stock the spare parts at Walmart, then I'm in. As long as it
> has 15-inch wheels. No Dubs. I got all jacked up over the new
> Challenger, until I saw the Dubs wheels. What are those morons at Dodge
> thinking? Ugh.
>
> >
> > All I know is the company I work for makes airbag inflators and we have
> > people over there right now getting a plant started up. Even as we are
> > starting up a Mexican plant. They have an Italian plant that is in the
> > process of being closed down and moved to Mexico. We figure we have
about 5
> > years and our plant will be closed.
>
> See, Mexico is the happenin' place. Did you know there is an
> NHRA-sanctioned dragstrip across the border? Damn, I really have to
> check the real estate market there.
>
> CobraJet

Somehow the Mexicans changed the rules about buying property near the beach.
Some guy was trying to get me to go to a seminar about it. Some years back I
was looking at property near Rocky Point. Figured it was the only place
close enough to go to for a weekend. At that time property was inexpensive
but you had to put it in some kind of trust, you could never actually own
it.

My old record holding 69 Nova is now racing in Mexico.

Al # 35

 

Wound Up

keller428@hotmail.com wrote:
> You bet your ass they're coming. I lived there for six months while
> working for Kodak back in 2000 and witnessed this first hand.
>
> These people have been given a tiny taste of the fruits of, if not a
> westernized/democratic government, a somewhat westernized life style
> and some simple luxuries. Major cultural differences aside, most folks
> I've talked to there want a more westernized lifestyle and more
> freedom.
>
> I wasn't here to experience the early post WWII US as far as morale,
> pride, and the willingness to bust your ass for the good of the country
> and yourself....but I've talked with enough people who were here (and
> watch plenty of the History Channel) to get an idea of what it was like
> then. I very much equate general atmosphere (at least in China's
> Special Economic Zones or S.E.Z. areas) to that of the post war boom
> here in the US.
>
> The typical Chinese worker will follow direction to the letter. TO THE
> LETTER almost without question. When a process works well these folks
> pump out serious amounts of inexpensive goods at ever increasing
> quality levels. They quite literally will run through a wall for you if
> need be. The economics of their pay/cost of living is alot different
> than ours but they seem to be quite happy busting their butts for
> modest wages. They save up and buy only the best items they can afford.
> They technology jump every chance they get. There are few land-line
> phones there.....however, I have pictures of an old farmer with a one
> bottom plow being pulled by a whipped old ox. He stopped to answer his
> new Nokia telephone. Same goes for consumer electronics and most other
> significant purchases. They bust they're butt to save up for the best
> they can get and **wait** until they can afford it. Most folks don't do
> credit there. They don't whine much about their jobs or pay and most of
> them do a very good job. Its something many parts of our society here
> in the US have gotten away from and its going to bite us in the butt.
>
> There are still some low quality goods coming out of China...but by
> and large most items/industries across the board are getting better and
> better while maintaining low costs. They've got a HUGE work force
> that'll work at much lower wages (for the time being)....a work force
> thats becoming better educated and more driven.
>
> Many of the Chinese companies have adopted the Toyota systems of
> management quality control (Kaizen and others) right from the get
> go...an advantage over many US companies right from the start. The
> Chinese have been learning from the mistakes the US, Japanese, and
> Russian governments and large companies have been making ....waiting in
> the wings, learning, building and improving along the way......quite
> quietly in the shadows.
>
> Be very much aware that the US will be surpassed by China in the near
> future as an economic super power. We're already having trouble with
> competing for oil, steel, fibers and lumber. The building blocks of our
> nation are heading overseas....much of it to the highest
> bidder.....many times China. Gaining significant control of major world
> markets is only the begining. We're gonna have our hands full with
> China in the future....no doubt about it.
>
> -Mike.

Quit it, Mike. You're making me nervous. To preserve my own sanity, I
must deny this is true.

And how did this all happen?

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Wound Up
TS #65

CobraJet

In article <X_kxf.40$Jz.1105@news.uswest.net>, Big Al <sal1@qwest.net>
wrote:

> "CobraJet" <coiled@basking.hiss> wrote in message
> news:110120061846324688%coiled@basking.hiss...

> > See, Mexico is the happenin' place. Did you know there is an
> > NHRA-sanctioned dragstrip across the border? Damn, I really have to
> > check the real estate market there.
> >
> > CobraJet
>
> Somehow the Mexicans changed the rules about buying property near the beach.
> Some guy was trying to get me to go to a seminar about it. Some years back I
> was looking at property near Rocky Point. Figured it was the only place
> close enough to go to for a weekend. At that time property was inexpensive
> but you had to put it in some kind of trust, you could never actually own
> it.
>
> My old record holding 69 Nova is now racing in Mexico.
>
> Al # 35

I checked this out last night. The rules were changed in '97. This
page gives the skinny:

http://www.mexonline.com/propmex.htm

My friend that moved there went to Cabo San Lucas, not Cancun as I
thought. Once I checked the map and saw Cabo in the south of Baja, I
remembered.

If you read that page, you'll see it only deals with foreign buyers.
He went down in '87, and I think his game plan was to become an actual
Mexican citizen. I don't know what that entails presently, but that's
the way I would do it, too, if I were to bail. I may call a couple of
the real estate co's down there and query the price of homes just
outside of the tourist areas. Maybe I can get them to check the local
directory for my friend's name, unless I can find one online.

CobraJet

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