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Old 11-19-2005, 22:01   #1 (permalink)
Scott Van Nest
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Is that your Mustang again in MM Dec, '05 Page 68? Your so lucky.

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Old 11-19-2005, 23:01   #2 (permalink)
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"Scott Van Nest" <JohnDoe@cox.net> wrote in message
news:eRSff.5790$0h5.5475@dukeread10...
> Is that your Mustang again in MM Dec, '05 Page 68? Your so lucky.
>
> Scott
>
>


Yeah, that's a picture of Trouble taken right after we painted it in March
2003. It was shot as part of the brake minibooster installation article for
the magazine. Jim Smart used that picture as a kind of "in your face" to my
friends who abandoned me more than a year ago before the car was done. He's
done that a couple of times but that's the biggest photo he's used so far.
I think it's kind of funny what he's doing. He actually shot the photo to
use it as a cover but it didn't make it back then. But, eventually, Trouble
will make it on a cover. Have to keep hoping. ;)

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Old 11-20-2005, 17:01   #3 (permalink)
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Laurie S. wrote:
> "Scott Van Nest" <JohnDoe@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:eRSff.5790$0h5.5475@dukeread10...
>
>>Is that your Mustang again in MM Dec, '05 Page 68? Your so lucky.
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>

>
>
> Yeah, that's a picture of Trouble taken right after we painted it in March
> 2003. It was shot as part of the brake minibooster installation article for
> the magazine. Jim Smart used that picture as a kind of "in your face" to my
> friends who abandoned me more than a year ago before the car was done. He's
> done that a couple of times but that's the biggest photo he's used so far.


Nice way to send a message!

> I think it's kind of funny what he's doing. He actually shot the photo to
> use it as a cover but it didn't make it back then. But, eventually, Trouble
> will make it on a cover. Have to keep hoping. ;)
>


Dammit, I believe my subscription literally just ran out (got the "last
chance" letter a couple weeks ago). I have every issue up to November;
I have scoured the house. I hope I'm wrong, and it shows up on Monday.

And, Laurie, I want you to know I re-thought my venting about
unscrupulous vendors. I went to journalism school at MU, and have a bit
more than half a brain. I can hardly hold any publication responsible
for my experiences. As many have said, we do indeed bring this on
ourselves. No one put a gun to my head and said, "MAKE THIS INTO A
RESTOMOD MUSTANG". I've just had some very unfortunate luck, and met a
few seedy characters. That said, who hasn't? It's a microcosm of life.
I'm not meaning to wax philosophically, but really, it is. Just in
case you cared, I wanted you to know.

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Old 11-20-2005, 19:01   #4 (permalink)
Laurie S.
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"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message
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> Laurie S. wrote:
> > "Scott Van Nest" <JohnDoe@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:eRSff.5790$0h5.5475@dukeread10...
> >
> >>Is that your Mustang again in MM Dec, '05 Page 68? Your so lucky.
> >>
> >>Scott
> >>
> >>

> >
> >
> > Yeah, that's a picture of Trouble taken right after we painted it in

March
> > 2003. It was shot as part of the brake minibooster installation article

for
> > the magazine. Jim Smart used that picture as a kind of "in your face"

to my
> > friends who abandoned me more than a year ago before the car was done.

He's
> > done that a couple of times but that's the biggest photo he's used so

far.
>
> Nice way to send a message!
>
> > I think it's kind of funny what he's doing. He actually shot the photo

to
> > use it as a cover but it didn't make it back then. But, eventually,

Trouble
> > will make it on a cover. Have to keep hoping. ;)
> >

>
> Dammit, I believe my subscription literally just ran out (got the "last
> chance" letter a couple weeks ago). I have every issue up to November;
> I have scoured the house. I hope I'm wrong, and it shows up on Monday.
>
> And, Laurie, I want you to know I re-thought my venting about
> unscrupulous vendors. I went to journalism school at MU, and have a bit
> more than half a brain. I can hardly hold any publication responsible
> for my experiences. As many have said, we do indeed bring this on
> ourselves. No one put a gun to my head and said, "MAKE THIS INTO A
> RESTOMOD MUSTANG". I've just had some very unfortunate luck, and met a
> few seedy characters. That said, who hasn't? It's a microcosm of life.
> I'm not meaning to wax philosophically, but really, it is. Just in
> case you cared, I wanted you to know.
>
> --
> Wound Up
> ThunderSnake #65
>
> AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
> AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
>
> Big Block is an Attitude
>


Oh, I fully understand where you're coming from about some of the vendors.
There are some bad ones out there, and some very good ones, too. I've had
my share of bad experiences, so I now only deal with a very few that I know
will do right by me--National Parts Depot, Virginia Classic Mustang, Summit
Racing, to name to most reliable to date.

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Laurie S.
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Old 11-20-2005, 19:01   #5 (permalink)
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Laurie S. wrote:
> "Wound Up" <none@your.disposal.ask.me> wrote in message
> news:43810D33.7010504@your.disposal.ask.me...
>
>>Laurie S. wrote:
>>
>>>"Scott Van Nest" <JohnDoe@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:eRSff.5790$0h5.5475@dukeread10...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is that your Mustang again in MM Dec, '05 Page 68? Your so lucky.
>>>>
>>>>Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yeah, that's a picture of Trouble taken right after we painted it in

>>

> March
>
>>>2003. It was shot as part of the brake minibooster installation article

>>

> for
>
>>>the magazine. Jim Smart used that picture as a kind of "in your face"

>>

> to my
>
>>>friends who abandoned me more than a year ago before the car was done.

>>

> He's
>
>>>done that a couple of times but that's the biggest photo he's used so

>>

> far.
>
>>Nice way to send a message!
>>
>>
>>>I think it's kind of funny what he's doing. He actually shot the photo

>>

> to
>
>>>use it as a cover but it didn't make it back then. But, eventually,

>>

> Trouble
>
>>>will make it on a cover. Have to keep hoping. ;)
>>>

>>
>>Dammit, I believe my subscription literally just ran out (got the "last
>>chance" letter a couple weeks ago). I have every issue up to November;
>>I have scoured the house. I hope I'm wrong, and it shows up on Monday.
>>
>>And, Laurie, I want you to know I re-thought my venting about
>>unscrupulous vendors. I went to journalism school at MU, and have a bit
>>more than half a brain. I can hardly hold any publication responsible
>>for my experiences. As many have said, we do indeed bring this on
>>ourselves. No one put a gun to my head and said, "MAKE THIS INTO A
>>RESTOMOD MUSTANG". I've just had some very unfortunate luck, and met a
>>few seedy characters. That said, who hasn't? It's a microcosm of life.
>> I'm not meaning to wax philosophically, but really, it is. Just in
>>case you cared, I wanted you to know.
>>
>>--
>>Wound Up
>>ThunderSnake #65
>>
>>AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
>>AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
>>
>>Big Block is an Attitude
>>

>
>
> Oh, I fully understand where you're coming from about some of the vendors.
> There are some bad ones out there, and some very good ones, too. I've had
> my share of bad experiences, so I now only deal with a very few that I know
> will do right by me--National Parts Depot, Virginia Classic Mustang, Summit
> Racing, to name to most reliable to date.
>


Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...

I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
expectations.

Thanks again

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Old 11-21-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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[Snip]
>
> Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
> recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
> I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
> I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
> looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
> of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
> but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...
>
> I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
> conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
> this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
> modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
> fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
> to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
> interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
> my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
> anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
> whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
> expectations.
>
> Thanks again
>
> --
> Wound Up
> ThunderSnake #65
>
> AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
> AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
>
> Big Block is an Attitude


I can I ask why you went with a hydraulic setup and not the original
mechanical linkage or the later model cable setup. I had a '90 Mustang
GT 5 speed and presently have a '00 Mustang GT 5 speed and the cable
works well for a stock setup.
Stan
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Old 11-21-2005, 08:01   #7 (permalink)
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Stan Weiss wrote:
> [Snip]
> >
> > Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
> > recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
> > I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
> > I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
> > looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
> > of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
> > but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...
> >
> > I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
> > conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
> > this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
> > modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
> > fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
> > to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
> > interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
> > my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
> > anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
> > whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
> > expectations.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > --
> > Wound Up
> > ThunderSnake #65
> >
> > AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
> > AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
> >
> > Big Block is an Attitude

>
> I can I ask why you went with a hydraulic setup and not the original
> mechanical linkage or the later model cable setup.


I haven't done the hydraulic setup yet. I broke three cables due to
the fact they had to be installed at angles that fatigued the ends of
them. The conversion was not a drop-in on the '67; it required
customization that the vendor claimed was easy to do. It has never
worked effectively. Believe me, I took my time and followed his
instructions. It just doesn't work like it should.

I thought I had it finally right, but I broke a third one, and am now
trying to figure out what to do - what will work once and for all. I
do not believe the z-bar will work on a Tremec in a '67, so you need to
go cable or hydraulic... I did consider using pulleys to ensure the
cable would pull straight, but ... I just think hydraulic would be
better

I had a '90 Mustang
> GT 5 speed and presently have a '00 Mustang GT 5 speed and the cable
> works well for a stock setup.
> Stan


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Old 11-21-2005, 09:01   #8 (permalink)
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Wound Up wrote:
>
> Stan Weiss wrote:
> > [Snip]
> > >
> > > Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
> > > recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
> > > I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
> > > I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
> > > looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
> > > of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
> > > but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...
> > >
> > > I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
> > > conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
> > > this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
> > > modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
> > > fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
> > > to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
> > > interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
> > > my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
> > > anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
> > > whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
> > > expectations.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > --
> > > Wound Up
> > > ThunderSnake #65
> > >
> > > AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
> > > AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
> > >
> > > Big Block is an Attitude

> >
> > I can I ask why you went with a hydraulic setup and not the original
> > mechanical linkage or the later model cable setup.

>
> I haven't done the hydraulic setup yet. I broke three cables due to
> the fact they had to be installed at angles that fatigued the ends of
> them. The conversion was not a drop-in on the '67; it required
> customization that the vendor claimed was easy to do. It has never
> worked effectively. Believe me, I took my time and followed his
> instructions. It just doesn't work like it should.
>
> I thought I had it finally right, but I broke a third one, and am now
> trying to figure out what to do - what will work once and for all. I
> do not believe the z-bar will work on a Tremec in a '67, so you need to
> go cable or hydraulic... I did consider using pulleys to ensure the
> cable would pull straight, but ... I just think hydraulic would be
> better
>
> I had a '90 Mustang
> > GT 5 speed and presently have a '00 Mustang GT 5 speed and the cable
> > works well for a stock setup.
> > Stan


Who was the vendor?
Stan
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Old 11-21-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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Stan Weiss wrote:
> Wound Up wrote:
> >
> > Stan Weiss wrote:
> > > [Snip]
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
> > > > recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
> > > > I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
> > > > I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
> > > > looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
> > > > of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
> > > > but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...
> > > >
> > > > I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
> > > > conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
> > > > this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
> > > > modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
> > > > fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
> > > > to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
> > > > interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
> > > > my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
> > > > anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
> > > > whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
> > > > expectations.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Wound Up
> > > > ThunderSnake #65
> > > >
> > > > AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
> > > > AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
> > > >
> > > > Big Block is an Attitude
> > >
> > > I can I ask why you went with a hydraulic setup and not the original
> > > mechanical linkage or the later model cable setup.

> >
> > I haven't done the hydraulic setup yet. I broke three cables due to
> > the fact they had to be installed at angles that fatigued the ends of
> > them. The conversion was not a drop-in on the '67; it required
> > customization that the vendor claimed was easy to do. It has never
> > worked effectively. Believe me, I took my time and followed his
> > instructions. It just doesn't work like it should.
> >
> > I thought I had it finally right, but I broke a third one, and am now
> > trying to figure out what to do - what will work once and for all. I
> > do not believe the z-bar will work on a Tremec in a '67, so you need to
> > go cable or hydraulic... I did consider using pulleys to ensure the
> > cable would pull straight, but ... I just think hydraulic would be
> > better
> >
> > I had a '90 Mustang
> > > GT 5 speed and presently have a '00 Mustang GT 5 speed and the cable
> > > works well for a stock setup.
> > > Stan

>
> Who was the vendor?


DB Performance Engineering. Danny Banh is the owner. There were other
problems with what I bought from him, like a driveshaft that was both
out of round (welded on to the yokes lopsided) and too short. The
crossmember he sent me was for a T5 conversion, too, but he wouldn't
admit fault, so I got a Windsor-Fox crossmember meant for this
conversion, which works fine.

With limited time and money, I'm still struggling seven years later to
make things work properly. In hindsight, I should have just gotten the
C4 built for 400+ hp, and put the money in the motor. I wanted an OD
stick, and not a T5, that could take 400 hp. I have a cheapie
parts-store motor with a mild cam, but what's behind it has cost me 3x
as much as it ever should have. I can't really use the 5th gear for
which I've paid so dearly, because the pinion angle is still severely
off, at about -6 degrees. It vibrates badly at 70-75 (cruising
Interstate speed in Mo.). I thank both DB Performance and SEMO Mustang
for that one. My ignorance is my own fault.

I have the pinion shims. Next, I need the clutch actuation problem
solved, and to get a driveshaft fabricated that is indeed the right
length with the right slip yoke. I think -maybe- I'll get it all done
this coming year. Quite a mess, huh?

> Stan


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Old 11-21-2005, 15:01   #10 (permalink)
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On 21 Nov 2005 12:14:45 -0800, "Wound Up" <jello72@iwon.com> wrote:

>
>Stan Weiss wrote:
>> Wound Up wrote:
>> >
>> > Stan Weiss wrote:
>> > > [Snip]
>> > > >
>> > > > Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement, as well as your educated
>> > > > recommendations. Knowing that you are an educated (and learned) person,
>> > > > I believed that you took my rants with a measure of "them's the breaks".
>> > > > I have had good luck with all three of those vendors, actually;
>> > > > looking in my stack of stuff, I do have catalogs and receipts from each
>> > > > of them. I haven't bought stuff from Virgina Classic Mustang in years,
>> > > > but I have a couple receipts from them pre-2000...
>> > > >
>> > > > I am planning to solve the disaster which has been my '67 5-spd.
>> > > > conversion with a hydraulic setup this Winter. I am determined to make
>> > > > this Tremec conversion fly. The transmission itself, the too-cool
>> > > > modified 4-spd. handle from Cali Mustang, and the Currie rear end are
>> > > > fantastic. All I need is the stuff to make the pedal do what I need it
>> > > > to do. I would be happy to help document things for you, if you'd be
>> > > > interested. I am still looking at parts sets and kits, but I will make
>> > > > my choices soon. I expect nothing; I offer this because I'm doing it
>> > > > anyway. Let me know if it would be of any value to you, and I'd offer
>> > > > whatever I could to you, with the idea of helping others, with zero
>> > > > expectations.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks again
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Wound Up
>> > > > ThunderSnake #65
>> > > >
>> > > > AHPBBFM posting rules: http://tinyurl.com/ak694
>> > > > AHPBBFM links page: http://tinyurl.com/a9qsx
>> > > >
>> > > > Big Block is an Attitude
>> > >
>> > > I can I ask why you went with a hydraulic setup and not the original
>> > > mechanical linkage or the later model cable setup.
>> >
>> > I haven't done the hydraulic setup yet. I broke three cables due to
>> > the fact they had to be installed at angles that fatigued the ends of
>> > them. The conversion was not a drop-in on the '67; it required
>> > customization that the vendor claimed was easy to do. It has never
>> > worked effectively. Believe me, I took my time and followed his
>> > instructions. It just doesn't work like it should.
>> >
>> > I thought I had it finally right, but I broke a third one, and am now
>> > trying to figure out what to do - what will work once and for all. I
>> > do not believe the z-bar will work on a Tremec in a '67, so you need to
>> > go cable or hydraulic... I did consider using pulleys to ensure the
>> > cable would pull straight, but ... I just think hydraulic would be
>> > better
>> >
>> > I had a '90 Mustang
>> > > GT 5 speed and presently have a '00 Mustang GT 5 speed and the cable
>> > > works well for a stock setup.
>> > > Stan

>>
>> Who was the vendor?

>
>DB Performance Engineering. Danny Banh is the owner. There were other
>problems with what I bought from him, like a driveshaft that was both
>out of round (welded on to the yokes lopsided) and too short. The
>crossmember he sent me was for a T5 conversion, too, but he wouldn't
>admit fault, so I got a Windsor-Fox crossmember meant for this
>conversion, which works fine.
>
>With limited time and money, I'm still struggling seven years later to
>make things work properly. In hindsight, I should have just gotten the
>C4 built for 400+ hp, and put the money in the motor. I wanted an OD
>stick, and not a T5, that could take 400 hp. I have a cheapie
>parts-store motor with a mild cam, but what's behind it has cost me 3x
>as much as it ever should have. I can't really use the 5th gear for
>which I've paid so dearly, because the pinion angle is still severely
>off, at about -6 degrees. It vibrates badly at 70-75 (cruising
>Interstate speed in Mo.). I thank both DB Performance and SEMO Mustang
>for that one. My ignorance is my own fault.
>
>I have the pinion shims. Next, I need the clutch actuation problem
>solved, and to get a driveshaft fabricated that is indeed the right
>length with the right slip yoke. I think -maybe- I'll get it all done
>this coming year. Quite a mess, huh?
>
>> Stan

Not sure if this applies, but it seems to me I read a tech sheet on an
AOD conversion which said to use the T5 yoke... something to do with
the length vs the stock yoke. Can't remember whether I read that on
Windsor Fox, or one of the other sites I was searching for
information.
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