John

"Wound Up" <none@your.disposal> wrote in message
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> John wrote:
>> "Bill Beyer" <bill_beyer@excite.cXoYmZ> wrote in message
>> news:INSdnWCmyNyjZyPenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>I moderate a couple of webside boards one of which is devoted to Ford 385
>>>series engines. On a regular basis there are posts which follow the same
>>>basic outline:
>>>
>>>"Hey I've got a clapped out 429/460 that I want to get <insert obscene
>>>amount of horsepower> out of that will be mostly a weekend play toy but I
>>>want to drive it on the street. It needs to run on pump gas. How do I do
>>>it?"
>>>
>>>These posts are inevitably followed by several morons who claim to have
>>>big
>>>block vehicles with ridiculous amounts of RWHP that they drive on the
>>>street
>>>regularly.
>>>
>>>These boobs clearly have no clue what kind of power they actually have or
>>>what it takes to build an engine that will live long enough to get out of
>>>the driveway while pumping out insane horsepower.
>>>
>>>The most recent request was some poor deluded soul who wanted 600 RWHP
>>>out
>>>of a stock block 460 with D3VE heads while keeping his build price to a
>>>minimum and driving it on the street. While I applaud his desire for
>>>extreme
>>>power as well as his choice of powerplant I had to dial my BBA way back
>>>in
>>>order to keep from flaming his sorry ass.
>>>
>>>Does this guy really think he can build an engine that will be somewhere
>>>in
>>>the 700 HP range on a miniscule budget? C'mon, how many people are out
>>>there
>>>that can squeeze that kind of horsepower out of those heads and build a
>>>bottom end that will live long enough to even break in the cam? Oh yeah
>>>and
>>>do it on a budget that would make Ebeneezer Scrooge seem generous.
>>>
>>>Has he ever driven a vehicle with that kind of power on the street? Not
>>>many
>>>people have and lived long enough to tell.
>>>
>>>Lord these fools do try my patience!
>>
>>
>> Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>>
>
> John, always the bright side, you look at! Like Yoda, I speak. A fine
> gent, you are.
>
> And for everyone else - at LEAST 50% of the credit due to the recent
> continuation of interest in this NG goes to John. I get 1 - 2%. CJ gets
> whatever is left.
>
> John came up with most of the ideas; I just did the grunt work of
> implementing them. John has designs on further commercial endorsements, a
> step further than I'd looked.
>
> My naïveté said this NG had enough juice left in it to sustain itself.
> More educated points of view had all said it needs more.
>
> Let's run the basics of your plans by the group again, shall we?

Okay, but first, look your e-mails.

I'll start a new post. If it's not there tomorrow, it'll be later in the
week. I'm leaving for Cincinnati tomorrow.

--
John - ThunderSnake #59
'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
Acapulco Blue

 

Wound Up

John wrote:
> "Wound Up" <none@your.disposal> wrote in message
> news:43C0A3BB.9070109@your.disposal...
>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>"Bill Beyer" <bill_beyer@excite.cXoYmZ> wrote in message
>>>news:INSdnWCmyNyjZyPenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I moderate a couple of webside boards one of which is devoted to Ford 385
>>>>series engines. On a regular basis there are posts which follow the same
>>>>basic outline:
>>>>
>>>>"Hey I've got a clapped out 429/460 that I want to get <insert obscene
>>>>amount of horsepower> out of that will be mostly a weekend play toy but I
>>>>want to drive it on the street. It needs to run on pump gas. How do I do
>>>>it?"
>>>>
>>>>These posts are inevitably followed by several morons who claim to have
>>>>big
>>>>block vehicles with ridiculous amounts of RWHP that they drive on the
>>>>street
>>>>regularly.
>>>>
>>>>These boobs clearly have no clue what kind of power they actually have or
>>>>what it takes to build an engine that will live long enough to get out of
>>>>the driveway while pumping out insane horsepower.
>>>>
>>>>The most recent request was some poor deluded soul who wanted 600 RWHP
>>>>out
>>>>of a stock block 460 with D3VE heads while keeping his build price to a
>>>>minimum and driving it on the street. While I applaud his desire for
>>>>extreme
>>>>power as well as his choice of powerplant I had to dial my BBA way back
>>>>in
>>>>order to keep from flaming his sorry ass.
>>>>
>>>>Does this guy really think he can build an engine that will be somewhere
>>>>in
>>>>the 700 HP range on a miniscule budget? C'mon, how many people are out
>>>>there
>>>>that can squeeze that kind of horsepower out of those heads and build a
>>>>bottom end that will live long enough to even break in the cam? Oh yeah
>>>>and
>>>>do it on a budget that would make Ebeneezer Scrooge seem generous.
>>>>
>>>>Has he ever driven a vehicle with that kind of power on the street? Not
>>>>many
>>>>people have and lived long enough to tell.
>>>>
>>>>Lord these fools do try my patience!
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>>>
>>
>>John, always the bright side, you look at! Like Yoda, I speak. A fine
>>gent, you are.
>>
>>And for everyone else - at LEAST 50% of the credit due to the recent
>>continuation of interest in this NG goes to John. I get 1 - 2%. CJ gets
>>whatever is left.
>>
>>John came up with most of the ideas; I just did the grunt work of
>>implementing them. John has designs on further commercial endorsements, a
>>step further than I'd looked.
>>
>>My naïveté said this NG had enough juice left in it to sustain itself.
>>More educated points of view had all said it needs more.
>>
>>Let's run the basics of your plans by the group again, shall we?
>
>
> Okay, but first, look your e-mails.
>
> I'll start a new post. If it's not there tomorrow, it'll be later in the
> week. I'm leaving for Cincinnati tomorrow.
>

I will. Dig. Have a safe trip.

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Bill Beyer

"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
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>
> Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>
> --

Actually in the case of the aforementioned poster, he actually took my
advice to heart and thanked me for the "reality check". He has since lowered
his expectations and plans a much more realistic build of his 73 460 so
that's somewhat gratifying.

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John

"Bill Beyer" <bill_beyer@excite.cXoYmZ> wrote in message
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>
> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>>
>> --
>
> Actually in the case of the aforementioned poster, he actually took my
> advice to heart and thanked me for the "reality check". He has since
> lowered
> his expectations and plans a much more realistic build of his 73 460 so
> that's somewhat gratifying.


Excellent. A mentor is very valuable. I have several, and I am one for
several people. It makes a person feel good.

--
John - ThunderSnake #59
'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
Acapulco Blue

Wound Up

Bill Beyer wrote:
> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> news:GJ0wf.1197$vc3.838@fe03.lga...
>
>>Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>>
>>--
>
>
> Actually in the case of the aforementioned poster, he actually took my
> advice to heart and thanked me for the "reality check".

How rare... someone with manners and a modicum of humility...

He has since lowered
> his expectations and plans a much more realistic build of his 73 460 so
> that's somewhat gratifying.
>
> --
> TS#10
>
>


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Wound Up

John wrote:
> "Bill Beyer" <bill_beyer@excite.cXoYmZ> wrote in message
> news:OaudnYDHZdl6xlzenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
>>news:GJ0wf.1197$vc3.838@fe03.lga...
>>
>>>Maybe one will come along that is worth mentoring?
>>>
>>>--
>>
>>Actually in the case of the aforementioned poster, he actually took my
>>advice to heart and thanked me for the "reality check". He has since
>>lowered
>>his expectations and plans a much more realistic build of his 73 460 so
>>that's somewhat gratifying.
>
>
>
> Excellent. A mentor is very valuable. I have several, and I am one for
> several people. It makes a person feel good.
>

It is invaluable. As a person realizing that experience is very often
far, far more important than smarts, I wish I still had someone willing
to be my mentor. Circumstances changed around us, and it is no more.

As a kid, I had to figure a lot of stuff out on my own, because my
father was divorced from my mom, and a very angry, very patient ass. My
mother and brother just weren't around much, literally or figuratively.
As a result, I made some bad decisions out of ignorance, and still
continue to a make a few, because there are still holes. Also as a
result, I don't want to have children, because of what I fear I would
inflict on them.

Way off-topic now, sorry

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