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Old 03-17-2005, 19:01   #1 (permalink)
Joe
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Re: Look what I stumbled into...

CobraJet <slither@fang.ford> wrote in
news:170320051625533456%slither@fang.ford:

> In article <4237DB60.2080201@your.disposal>, Wound Up
> <none@your.disposal> wrote:
>
>> CobraJet wrote:
>> > I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
>> > and
>> > apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm not
>> > around.

>>
>> In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums (remember
>> "CobraJet1"?).
>>
>> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
>> need
>> answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
>>
>> How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
>> interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must run
>> essentially real-time. This must have been done before, but, my
>> expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible, especially
>> when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI preferable, or
>> ASP, or something else? What about error handling? How much
>> bandwidth would it need to handle? Who would host it? Are there
>> canned solutions?

>
> This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
> formation
> of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
> it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that an
> interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
> attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
>
>>
>> What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?

>
> I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
> fire
> up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder the
> relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and I even
> had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated information.
>
>>
>> What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back again?
>> What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between browsers?
>>
>> How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back to
>> "how good is the interface").
>>
>> Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
>> moderators.
>> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.

>
> I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as the
> major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
> moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
> newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
> trolls, as we have done many a time here.
>
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>
>> What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
>> expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you need?
>> How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
>> advertising", aka Spam in the net world...

>
> At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated server
> into
> my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the box,
> the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be in the
> neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have achieved the
> type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I would not have
> blinked over that amount. Aside from that, *on-topic* ads, if held
> to a reasonable level, should not bother most people. I had a lot of
> this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
>
>>
>> This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of expertise.
>> I think answering these questions would be a huge step forward.

>
> As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone and
> come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
> However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
>
> CobraJet


Here's a link that might help:
http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/

Joe
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Old 03-18-2005, 09:02   #2 (permalink)
CobraJet
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Re: Look what I stumbled into...

In article <33q_d.31822$Q83.29931@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joe
<avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote:

> CobraJet <slither@fang.ford> wrote in
> news:170320051625533456%slither@fang.ford:
>
> > In article <4237DB60.2080201@your.disposal>, Wound Up
> > <none@your.disposal> wrote:
> >
> >> CobraJet wrote:
> >> > I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
> >> > and
> >> > apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm not
> >> > around.
> >>
> >> In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums (remember
> >> "CobraJet1"?).
> >>
> >> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
> >> need
> >> answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
> >>
> >> How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
> >> interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must run
> >> essentially real-time. This must have been done before, but, my
> >> expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible, especially
> >> when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI preferable, or
> >> ASP, or something else? What about error handling? How much
> >> bandwidth would it need to handle? Who would host it? Are there
> >> canned solutions?

> >
> > This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
> > formation
> > of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
> > it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that an
> > interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
> > attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
> >
> >>
> >> What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?

> >
> > I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
> > fire
> > up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder the
> > relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and I even
> > had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated information.
> >
> >>
> >> What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back again?
> >> What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between browsers?
> >>
> >> How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back to
> >> "how good is the interface").
> >>
> >> Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
> >> moderators.
> >> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.

> >
> > I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as the
> > major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
> > moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
> > newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
> > trolls, as we have done many a time here.
> >
> >>
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
> >>
> >> What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
> >> expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you need?
> >> How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
> >> advertising", aka Spam in the net world...

> >
> > At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated server
> > into
> > my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the box,
> > the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be in the
> > neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have achieved the
> > type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I would not have
> > blinked over that amount. Aside from that, *on-topic* ads, if held
> > to a reasonable level, should not bother most people. I had a lot of
> > this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
> >
> >>
> >> This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of expertise.
> >> I think answering these questions would be a huge step forward.

> >
> > As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone and
> > come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
> > However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
> >
> > CobraJet

>
> Here's a link that might help:
> http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/


That's the idea, but I have no idea how to implement it, or if I can
with an Apple box. The download link went "Not Found". This is all over
my head.

>
> Joe
> TS#29


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Old 03-18-2005, 10:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Look what I stumbled into...

CobraJet wrote:
> In article <33q_d.31822$Q83.29931@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joe
> <avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> CobraJet <slither@fang.ford> wrote in
>> news:170320051625533456%slither@fang.ford:
>>
>>> In article <4237DB60.2080201@your.disposal>, Wound Up
>>> <none@your.disposal> wrote:
>>>
>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>> I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
>>>>> and
>>>>> apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm not
>>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>> In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums (remember
>>>> "CobraJet1"?).
>>>>
>>>> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
>>>> need
>>>> answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
>>>>
>>>> How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
>>>> interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must run
>>>> essentially real-time. This must have been done before, but, my
>>>> expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible, especially
>>>> when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI preferable, or
>>>> ASP, or something else? What about error handling? How much
>>>> bandwidth would it need to handle? Who would host it? Are there
>>>> canned solutions?
>>>
>>> This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
>>> formation
>>> of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
>>> it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that an
>>> interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
>>> attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?
>>>
>>> I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
>>> fire
>>> up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder the
>>> relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and I even
>>> had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated information.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back again?
>>>> What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between browsers?
>>>>
>>>> How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back to
>>>> "how good is the interface").
>>>>
>>>> Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
>>>> moderators.
>>>> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.
>>>
>>> I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as the
>>> major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
>>> moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
>>> newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
>>> trolls, as we have done many a time here.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>>>
>>>> What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
>>>> expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you need?
>>>> How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
>>>> advertising", aka Spam in the net world...
>>>
>>> At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated server
>>> into
>>> my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the box,
>>> the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be in the
>>> neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have achieved the
>>> type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I would not have
>>> blinked over that amount. Aside from that, *on-topic* ads, if held
>>> to a reasonable level, should not bother most people. I had a lot of
>>> this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of expertise.
>>>> I think answering these questions would be a huge step forward.
>>>
>>> As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone and
>>> come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
>>> However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
>>>
>>> CobraJet

>>
>> Here's a link that might help:
>> http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/

>
> That's the idea, but I have no idea how to implement it, or if I can
> with an Apple box. The download link went "Not Found". This is all
> over my head.


The download link works again. I downloaded it but I haven't tried to run it
yet. It looks like it runs on UNIX/Linux platforms, not Apple or Microsoft.
They claim it's OS independent, but who knows what that really means. I
could try this out on my Linux box when I get back to Texas.
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Look what I stumbled into...

"Nosey" <kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:7LD_d.22418$yp.12755@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:

> CobraJet wrote:
>> In article <33q_d.31822$Q83.29931@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joe
>> <avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CobraJet <slither@fang.ford> wrote in
>>> news:170320051625533456%slither@fang.ford:
>>>
>>>> In article <4237DB60.2080201@your.disposal>, Wound Up
>>>> <none@your.disposal> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> CobraJet wrote:
>>>>>> I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm
>>>>>> not around.
>>>>>
>>>>> In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums
>>>>> (remember "CobraJet1"?).
>>>>>
>>>>> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
>>>>> need
>>>>> answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
>>>>> interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must
>>>>> run essentially real-time. This must have been done before,
>>>>> but, my expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible,
>>>>> especially when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI
>>>>> preferable, or ASP, or something else? What about error
>>>>> handling? How much bandwidth would it need to handle? Who
>>>>> would host it? Are there canned solutions?
>>>>
>>>> This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
>>>> formation
>>>> of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
>>>> it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that
>>>> an interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
>>>> attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?
>>>>
>>>> I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
>>>> fire
>>>> up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder
>>>> the relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and
>>>> I even had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back
>>>>> again? What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between
>>>>> browsers?
>>>>>
>>>>> How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back
>>>>> to "how good is the interface").
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
>>>>> moderators.
>>>>> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.
>>>>
>>>> I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as
>>>> the
>>>> major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
>>>> moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
>>>> newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
>>>> trolls, as we have done many a time here.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>>>>
>>>>> What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
>>>>> expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you
>>>>> need? How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
>>>>> advertising", aka Spam in the net world...
>>>>
>>>> At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated
>>>> server into
>>>> my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the
>>>> box, the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be
>>>> in the neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have
>>>> achieved the type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I
>>>> would not have blinked over that amount. Aside from that,
>>>> *on-topic* ads, if held to a reasonable level, should not bother
>>>> most people. I had a lot of this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of
>>>>> expertise. I think answering these questions would be a huge
>>>>> step forward.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone
>>>> and
>>>> come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
>>>> However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
>>>>
>>>> CobraJet
>>>
>>> Here's a link that might help:
>>> http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/

>>
>> That's the idea, but I have no idea how to implement it, or if I
>> can
>> with an Apple box. The download link went "Not Found". This is all
>> over my head.

>
> The download link works again. I downloaded it but I haven't tried
> to run it yet. It looks like it runs on UNIX/Linux platforms, not
> Apple or Microsoft. They claim it's OS independent, but who knows
> what that really means. I could try this out on my Linux box when I
> get back to Texas.


I think what it all comes down to is that you basically have to be a
news host and a web host. The software sort of marries the two
through a brower UI. All in all, more of a PITA than it's worth IMO.

Joe
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Old 03-21-2005, 09:01   #5 (permalink)
CobraJet
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Re: Look what I stumbled into...

In article <s8E_d.38656$c72.19479@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, Joe
<avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote:

> "Nosey" <kfrei43@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:7LD_d.22418$yp.12755@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
>
> > CobraJet wrote:
> >> In article <33q_d.31822$Q83.29931@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Joe
> >> <avoidingspam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> CobraJet <slither@fang.ford> wrote in
> >>> news:170320051625533456%slither@fang.ford:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <4237DB60.2080201@your.disposal>, Wound Up
> >>>> <none@your.disposal> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> CobraJet wrote:
> >>>>>> I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm
> >>>>>> not around.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums
> >>>>> (remember "CobraJet1"?).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
> >>>>> need
> >>>>> answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
> >>>>> interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must
> >>>>> run essentially real-time. This must have been done before,
> >>>>> but, my expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible,
> >>>>> especially when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI
> >>>>> preferable, or ASP, or something else? What about error
> >>>>> handling? How much bandwidth would it need to handle? Who
> >>>>> would host it? Are there canned solutions?
> >>>>
> >>>> This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
> >>>> formation
> >>>> of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
> >>>> it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that
> >>>> an interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
> >>>> attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?
> >>>>
> >>>> I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
> >>>> fire
> >>>> up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder
> >>>> the relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and
> >>>> I even had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated
> >>>> information.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back
> >>>>> again? What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between
> >>>>> browsers?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back
> >>>>> to "how good is the interface").
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
> >>>>> moderators.
> >>>>> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as
> >>>> the
> >>>> major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
> >>>> moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
> >>>> newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
> >>>> trolls, as we have done many a time here.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hmmmmmmmmmmm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
> >>>>> expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you
> >>>>> need? How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
> >>>>> advertising", aka Spam in the net world...
> >>>>
> >>>> At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated
> >>>> server into
> >>>> my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the
> >>>> box, the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be
> >>>> in the neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have
> >>>> achieved the type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I
> >>>> would not have blinked over that amount. Aside from that,
> >>>> *on-topic* ads, if held to a reasonable level, should not bother
> >>>> most people. I had a lot of this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of
> >>>>> expertise. I think answering these questions would be a huge
> >>>>> step forward.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone
> >>>> and
> >>>> come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
> >>>> However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
> >>>>
> >>>> CobraJet
> >>>
> >>> Here's a link that might help:
> >>> http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/
> >>
> >> That's the idea, but I have no idea how to implement it, or if I
> >> can
> >> with an Apple box. The download link went "Not Found". This is all
> >> over my head.

> >
> > The download link works again. I downloaded it but I haven't tried
> > to run it yet. It looks like it runs on UNIX/Linux platforms, not
> > Apple or Microsoft. They claim it's OS independent, but who knows
> > what that really means. I could try this out on my Linux box when I
> > get back to Texas.

>
> I think what it all comes down to is that you basically have to be a
> news host and a web host. The software sort of marries the two
> through a brower UI. All in all, more of a PITA than it's worth IMO.


I agree. And there's no reason to mirror any of the other Network 54
forums, either. With limited contributions to on-topic talk here, I
guess we'll see what happens.

>
> Joe
> TS#29


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Old 03-21-2005, 10:01   #6 (permalink)
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>>>>>>>> I'm open to suggestions, but even the Snake roster is spotty
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>apathetic. We all see what happens to the post count when I'm
>>>>>>>>not around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In recent memory, AHPBBFM has been hijacked by web forums
>>>>>>>(remember "CobraJet1"?).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From my professional perspective, the immediate questions that
>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>answering surround the Usenet-to-Web interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How difficult is it to set up a read / write Usenet-to-Web
>>>>>>>interface such that Usenet and the Web are in synch? It must
>>>>>>>run essentially real-time. This must have been done before,
>>>>>>>but, my expertise is not in this area. Nothing is impossible,
>>>>>>>especially when you're marrying two old technologies. Is CGI
>>>>>>>preferable, or ASP, or something else? What about error
>>>>>>>handling? How much bandwidth would it need to handle? Who
>>>>>>>would host it? Are there canned solutions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is something I tried to integrate shortly after the
>>>>>> formation
>>>>>>of this group, and another time thereafter. I came up empty. Now,
>>>>>>it's evident by the existence of places like autoforumz.com that
>>>>>>an interface program is out there somewhere. How or where that is
>>>>>>attainable I don't know. Nobody in this group was able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What trade-offs exist, and are recurring costs involved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had at one time a related domain name that I was prepared to
>>>>>> fire
>>>>>>up as a Webside companion to this group. I was ready to shoulder
>>>>>>the relatively minor monthly costs involved in that endeavor, and
>>>>>>I even had my eye on a personal server to file accumulated
>>>>>>information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What about going from all that HTML to plain text and back
>>>>>>>again? What happens to all the tags, even non-compatible between
>>>>>>>browsers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How are subscription and other commands handled (this goes back
>>>>>>>to "how good is the interface").
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, there's the issue of conflicting cultures, and web
>>>>>>>moderators.
>>>>>>> This is not a big deal, but it needs consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't answer these questions, but I can point to Google as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>major example of a Web interface. It can be done. As far as
>>>>>>moderation, it would be an exercise in futility when linked to a
>>>>>>newsgroup. Better off without. The core constituency can handle
>>>>>>trolls, as we have done many a time here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hmmmmmmmmmmm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What off-the-shelf interfaces exist that can fit the bill, how
>>>>>>>expensive are they, and what type of hosting services do you
>>>>>>>need? How do you defray any recurring costs without "cooperative
>>>>>>>advertising", aka Spam in the net world...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the time I was going to plop a one terabyte dedicated
>>>>>> server into
>>>>>>my ISP's headquarters in Scottsdale. Aside from the cost of the
>>>>>>box, the people there estimated my monthly bandwidth costs to be
>>>>>>in the neighborhood of 100 bucks a month. If I were to have
>>>>>>achieved the type of traffic and info-swap I had envisioned, I
>>>>>>would not have blinked over that amount. Aside from that,
>>>>>>*on-topic* ads, if held to a reasonable level, should not bother
>>>>>>most people. I had a lot of this mapped out, but I shitcanned it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This shit isn't hard, it's just not my specific area of
>>>>>>>expertise. I think answering these questions would be a huge
>>>>>>>step forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, I've put effort into this without help from anyone
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>come up with nothing. This has certainly punctured my enthusiasm.
>>>>>>However, I will reconsider if someone else comes up with a plan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CobraJet
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a link that might help:
>>>>>http://usenetweb.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> That's the idea, but I have no idea how to implement it, or if I
>>>> can
>>>>with an Apple box. The download link went "Not Found". This is all
>>>>over my head.
>>>
>>>The download link works again. I downloaded it but I haven't tried
>>>to run it yet. It looks like it runs on UNIX/Linux platforms, not
>>>Apple or Microsoft. They claim it's OS independent, but who knows
>>>what that really means. I could try this out on my Linux box when I
>>>get back to Texas.

>>
>>I think what it all comes down to is that you basically have to be a
>>news host and a web host. The software sort of marries the two
>>through a brower UI. All in all, more of a PITA than it's worth IMO.

>
>
> I agree. And there's no reason to mirror any of the other Network 54
> forums, either. With limited contributions to on-topic talk here, I
> guess we'll see what happens.


I just wanted to put forth a couple suggestions with these threads. I
wasn't aware of what exactly had been done before...


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