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Old 12-25-2005, 18:01   #1 (permalink)
Laurie S.
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Undercarriage Primer Question

Hey Snakes,

I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because I
know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red lead
oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of the
car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit worn and
needs work.

I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire Blue.
The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are black
and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the rear
axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue primer.
Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA National
shows so I want something that will look great.

My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a nice
contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe, although
there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
factory primer).

I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush because I
don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the color
will work.

So what do you guys think?

Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!

----------------
Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7



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Old 12-25-2005, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Undercarriage Primer Question

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:03:11 -0700, Laurie S. rearranged some electrons to
form:

> Hey Snakes,
>
> I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because I
> know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red lead
> oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of the
> car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit worn and
> needs work.
>
> I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire Blue.
> The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are black
> and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the rear
> axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue primer.
> Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA National
> shows so I want something that will look great.
>
> My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
> in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a nice
> contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe, although
> there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
> factory primer).
>
> I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush because I
> don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the color
> will work.
>
> So what do you guys think?
>
> Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!
>
> ----------------
> Laurie S.
> Thunder Snake #7


I've always been partial to Eastwood chassis black.

--
David M (dmacchiarolo)
http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
T/S 53
sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 14 days 7:49

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Old 12-25-2005, 18:01   #3 (permalink)
Laurie S.
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Re: Undercarriage Primer Question


"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.26.01.21.05.349378@sled351...
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:03:11 -0700, Laurie S. rearranged some electrons to
> form:
>
> > Hey Snakes,
> >
> > I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because

I
> > know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red

lead
> > oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of

the
> > car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit worn

and
> > needs work.
> >
> > I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire

Blue.
> > The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are

black
> > and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the

rear
> > axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue

primer.
> > Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA

National
> > shows so I want something that will look great.
> >
> > My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
> > in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a

nice
> > contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe,

although
> > there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
> > factory primer).
> >
> > I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush

because I
> > don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the

color
> > will work.
> >
> > So what do you guys think?
> >
> > Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!
> >
> > ----------------
> > Laurie S.
> > Thunder Snake #7

>
> I've always been partial to Eastwood chassis black.
>
> --
> David M (dmacchiarolo)
> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> T/S 53
> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 14 days 7:49
>


That's a good paint, and I will be using their glossy version to repaint the
driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars, but I don't want it on the
floorpans. I'm looking for a good contrast.

-------------
Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7


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Old 12-26-2005, 07:01   #4 (permalink)
John
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Re: Undercarriage Primer Question

"Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
news:43af4160$0$1765$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> Hey Snakes,
>
> I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because I
> know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red lead
> oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of the
> car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit worn
> and
> needs work.
>
> I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire
> Blue.
> The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are black
> and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the
> rear
> axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue primer.
> Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA National
> shows so I want something that will look great.


The presence of black complicates the choice of color schemes, IMO, because
it is not even on the same "color wheel" as blue. Black is the absence of
all color. It's contrasting color is white and complementary colors are
gray scale.

Do you want the undercarriage to say something bold about the car or
something more subdued? Bright primary colors that complement and contrast
to sapphire blue would be bold, very bold. Pastels would give you a more
subdued look. This all depends on how you want the undercarriage to strike
people.

> My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
> in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a
> nice
> contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe,
> although
> there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
> factory primer).


This would be nice. Gold (yellowish orange) is almost the perfect
complementary color for sapphire blue, and being a dark shade will add some
gray scale to bring in the black pieces.

> I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush because
> I
> don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the color
> will work.


Here's a site I like because it is simple and basic:
http://www.artsparx.com/colorwheel.asp

> So what do you guys think?
>
> Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

There are many choices - ignore the black, ignore the blue, change the blue
(probably not, right), change the black, start from scratch.

For REALLY BOLD, how about a tricolor scheme of sapphire blue, an
orange-red, and a yellow-green?

If you want to leave the black pieces black, have you thought of doing
something in contrasting white and/or in complementary gray scale for the
undercarriage?

--
John - ThunderSnake #59
'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
Acapulco Blue



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Old 12-26-2005, 18:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Undercarriage Primer Question


"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
news:63Trf.3034$%c3.2025@fe06.lga...
> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
> news:43af4160$0$1765$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> > Hey Snakes,
> >
> > I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because

I
> > know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red

lead
> > oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of

the
> > car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit worn
> > and
> > needs work.
> >
> > I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire
> > Blue.
> > The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are

black
> > and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the
> > rear
> > axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue

primer.
> > Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA

National
> > shows so I want something that will look great.

>
> The presence of black complicates the choice of color schemes, IMO,

because
> it is not even on the same "color wheel" as blue. Black is the absence of
> all color. It's contrasting color is white and complementary colors are
> gray scale.
>
> Do you want the undercarriage to say something bold about the car or
> something more subdued? Bright primary colors that complement and

contrast
> to sapphire blue would be bold, very bold. Pastels would give you a more
> subdued look. This all depends on how you want the undercarriage to

strike
> people.
>
> > My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
> > in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a
> > nice
> > contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe,
> > although
> > there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
> > factory primer).

>
> This would be nice. Gold (yellowish orange) is almost the perfect
> complementary color for sapphire blue, and being a dark shade will add

some
> gray scale to bring in the black pieces.
>
> > I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush

because
> > I
> > don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the

color
> > will work.

>
> Here's a site I like because it is simple and basic:
> http://www.artsparx.com/colorwheel.asp
>
> > So what do you guys think?
> >
> > Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!

>
> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>
> There are many choices - ignore the black, ignore the blue, change the

blue
> (probably not, right), change the black, start from scratch.
>
> For REALLY BOLD, how about a tricolor scheme of sapphire blue, an
> orange-red, and a yellow-green?
>
> If you want to leave the black pieces black, have you thought of doing
> something in contrasting white and/or in complementary gray scale for the
> undercarriage?
>
> --
> John - ThunderSnake #59
> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
>
>
>


Well, after some thought and talking with some good friends, I've decided to
put the Sapphire Blue on the bottom.....and add the Hertz Gold stripes, too.
I wanted to do that originally, but my helpers weren't interested at the
time. The engine and tranny will be coming out of the car soon and will be
out for probably six months so it's the time to do this work.

Now when people at a show ask if the stripes go all the way, I can "yes!"
LOL

--------------
Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7


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Old 12-26-2005, 18:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Undercarriage Primer Question

"Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
news:43b0932b$0$1760$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
>
> "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> news:63Trf.3034$%c3.2025@fe06.lga...
>> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
>> news:43af4160$0$1765$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
>> > Hey Snakes,
>> >
>> > I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys because

> I
>> > know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red

> lead
>> > oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of

> the
>> > car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit
>> > worn
>> > and
>> > needs work.
>> >
>> > I've thought about other colors and considered both black and Sapphire
>> > Blue.
>> > The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are

> black
>> > and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time, the
>> > rear
>> > axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue

> primer.
>> > Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA

> National
>> > shows so I want something that will look great.

>>
>> The presence of black complicates the choice of color schemes, IMO,

> because
>> it is not even on the same "color wheel" as blue. Black is the absence
>> of
>> all color. It's contrasting color is white and complementary colors are
>> gray scale.
>>
>> Do you want the undercarriage to say something bold about the car or
>> something more subdued? Bright primary colors that complement and

> contrast
>> to sapphire blue would be bold, very bold. Pastels would give you a more
>> subdued look. This all depends on how you want the undercarriage to

> strike
>> people.
>>
>> > My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not an
>> > in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for a
>> > nice
>> > contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe,
>> > although
>> > there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic (Dearborn
>> > factory primer).

>>
>> This would be nice. Gold (yellowish orange) is almost the perfect
>> complementary color for sapphire blue, and being a dark shade will add

> some
>> gray scale to bring in the black pieces.
>>
>> > I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush

> because
>> > I
>> > don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the

> color
>> > will work.

>>
>> Here's a site I like because it is simple and basic:
>> http://www.artsparx.com/colorwheel.asp
>>
>> > So what do you guys think?
>> >
>> > Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!

>>
>> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>>
>> There are many choices - ignore the black, ignore the blue, change the

> blue
>> (probably not, right), change the black, start from scratch.
>>
>> For REALLY BOLD, how about a tricolor scheme of sapphire blue, an
>> orange-red, and a yellow-green?
>>
>> If you want to leave the black pieces black, have you thought of doing
>> something in contrasting white and/or in complementary gray scale for the
>> undercarriage?
>>
>> --
>> John - ThunderSnake #59
>> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
>> Wide Ratio Toploader
>> 3.50 Traction-Lok
>> Acapulco Blue
>>
>>
>>

>
> Well, after some thought and talking with some good friends, I've decided
> to
> put the Sapphire Blue on the bottom.....and add the Hertz Gold stripes,
> too.
> I wanted to do that originally, but my helpers weren't interested at the
> time. The engine and tranny will be coming out of the car soon and will
> be
> out for probably six months so it's the time to do this work.
>
> Now when people at a show ask if the stripes go all the way, I can "yes!"
> LOL


Very nice. Will you have a matching outfit?

--
John - ThunderSnake #59
'69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
Wide Ratio Toploader
3.50 Traction-Lok
Acapulco Blue



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Old 12-26-2005, 19:01   #7 (permalink)
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"John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
news:5J0sf.5350$5R3.4806@fe02.lga...
> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
> news:43b0932b$0$1760$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> >
> > "John" <mooresjc@chartermi.removethisandonedot.net> wrote in message
> > news:63Trf.3034$%c3.2025@fe06.lga...
> >> "Laurie S." <aztlan@theriver.com> wrote in message
> >> news:43af4160$0$1765$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
> >> > Hey Snakes,
> >> >
> >> > I have an idea about my fastback that I want to run by you guys

because
> > I
> >> > know you'll give me a straight answer. The car has the San Jose red

> > lead
> >> > oxide primer under it and it just doesn't look right with the rest of

> > the
> >> > car. The floor pans are in beautiful shape but the primer is a bit
> >> > worn
> >> > and
> >> > needs work.
> >> >
> >> > I've thought about other colors and considered both black and

Sapphire
> >> > Blue.
> >> > The problem is that my driveshaft, subframes, and traction bars are

> > black
> >> > and they wouldn't contrast with a black primer. At the same time,

the
> >> > rear
> >> > axle and shocks are Sapphire Blue and would be lost against a blue

> > primer.
> >> > Trouble will be competing in the trailered modified class at MCA

> > National
> >> > shows so I want something that will look great.
> >>
> >> The presence of black complicates the choice of color schemes, IMO,

> > because
> >> it is not even on the same "color wheel" as blue. Black is the absence
> >> of
> >> all color. It's contrasting color is white and complementary colors

are
> >> gray scale.
> >>
> >> Do you want the undercarriage to say something bold about the car or
> >> something more subdued? Bright primary colors that complement and

> > contrast
> >> to sapphire blue would be bold, very bold. Pastels would give you a

more
> >> subdued look. This all depends on how you want the undercarriage to

> > strike
> >> people.
> >>
> >> > My other thought is to go with a dark antique nonmetallic gold (not

an
> >> > in-your-face bright gold) that would complement the car and allow for

a
> >> > nice
> >> > contrast underneath. I kind of have that color now under my coupe,
> >> > although
> >> > there's more gray in the coupe's primer and a lot of metallic

(Dearborn
> >> > factory primer).
> >>
> >> This would be nice. Gold (yellowish orange) is almost the perfect
> >> complementary color for sapphire blue, and being a dark shade will add

> > some
> >> gray scale to bring in the black pieces.
> >>
> >> > I'm going to have to paint this monster in sections with airbrush

> > because
> >> > I
> >> > don't have a lift so this will be fun. I want to make sure that the

> > color
> >> > will work.
> >>
> >> Here's a site I like because it is simple and basic:
> >> http://www.artsparx.com/colorwheel.asp
> >>
> >> > So what do you guys think?
> >> >
> >> > Oh, btw, Merry Christmas!
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
> >>
> >> There are many choices - ignore the black, ignore the blue, change the

> > blue
> >> (probably not, right), change the black, start from scratch.
> >>
> >> For REALLY BOLD, how about a tricolor scheme of sapphire blue, an
> >> orange-red, and a yellow-green?
> >>
> >> If you want to leave the black pieces black, have you thought of doing
> >> something in contrasting white and/or in complementary gray scale for

the
> >> undercarriage?
> >>
> >> --
> >> John - ThunderSnake #59
> >> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> >> Wide Ratio Toploader
> >> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> >> Acapulco Blue
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Well, after some thought and talking with some good friends, I've

decided
> > to
> > put the Sapphire Blue on the bottom.....and add the Hertz Gold stripes,
> > too.
> > I wanted to do that originally, but my helpers weren't interested at the
> > time. The engine and tranny will be coming out of the car soon and will
> > be
> > out for probably six months so it's the time to do this work.
> >
> > Now when people at a show ask if the stripes go all the way, I can

"yes!"
> > LOL

>
> Very nice. Will you have a matching outfit?
>
> --
> John - ThunderSnake #59
> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
>
>
>


Naw, it's usually dirty jeans and a t-shirt. Good for cleaning the car at a
show. LOL

-----------
Laurie S.
Thunder Snake #7


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