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Old 07-23-2005, 01:01   #1 (permalink)
Craig Shaffer
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2005 Escape Warning

Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all the
nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane. We
turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young
children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.


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Old 07-23-2005, 02:01   #2 (permalink)
Donut
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:08:26 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
<CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

<Snip a bunch of crybaby talk>

>is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
>I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.


>


So what you are saying is that this is a *very* dangerous vehicle...
And you *can't* stop your wife from driving it.

But you are under the impression that a note to a usenet group will
convince complete strangers, were as you couldn't convince your own
wife, who was driving the vehicle?!

Good luck with that.

Don



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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
JimV
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

Craig Shaffer wrote:
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
> bla bla bla


If you look up the NTSA accident statistics on the Escape, you'll find
they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
agenda is.



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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #4 (permalink)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:08:26 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
<CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had.


If this car is the worst "nightmare" in your life, I'd say you've got
a pretty damned good life.

Did you not DRIVE the car before your wife bought it? Did you not do
any RESEARCH on the vehicle before it was purchased?? Sounds like you
went into it half-assed and your expectations don't match reality.


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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #5 (permalink)
Matt Macchiarolo
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

It's an anti-SUV agenda. And poorly directed, since the Escape really isn't
an SUV.

"JimV" <jv9999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Craig Shaffer wrote:
>> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately
>> it
>> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
>> bla bla bla

>
> If you look up the NTSA accident statistics on the Escape, you'll find
> they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
> agenda is.
>
>
>



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Old 07-23-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

"JimV" <jv9999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Craig Shaffer wrote:
>> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately
>> it
>> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
>> bla bla bla

>
> If you look up the NTSA accident statistics on the Escape, you'll find
> they are actually quite good. I'm not sure what your problem or real
> agenda is.
>
>

His agenda is clear. As you pointed out with NTSA, anyone can go get the
facts rather than listen to some moron's drivel...
John


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Old 07-23-2005, 10:01   #7 (permalink)
Matt Mead
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

It's kinda like a train wreck. You know it is going to be ugly, but
you just can't stop watching..... or in this case reading.

And funny too when you think the idiot that wrote it believes somebody
is actually going to believe it.

Troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4


On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:08:26 GMT, "Craig Shaffer"
<CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
>has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
>wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
>safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and by
>8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
>Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all the
>nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
>they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
>lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane. We
>turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light had
>changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
>much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its side.
>What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer, and
>you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the sun
>was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
>been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
>skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has no
>redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
>Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't have
>to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I would
>not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
>that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
>back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't be
>hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew they
>cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
>car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
>Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
>living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I could
>not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
>cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any young
>children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
>running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
>for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them to
>outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
>children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
>sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
>dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
>for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
>until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
>get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
>mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my wife
>is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her. But
>I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
>she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will prevent
>her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>


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Old 07-23-2005, 18:01   #8 (permalink)
Spdloader
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

Sounds like your wife has no driving skills, and you are some kind of a
wuss.

Grow up and troll somewhere else.

Spdloader



"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:K1mEe.24973$5N3.14104@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Buying a new car is suposed to be a happy experience, but unfortunately it
> has turned into the worst nightmare I have ever had. I just pray that my
> wife is not killed in it. She has bought into the myth that SUV's are
> safer. We took delivery of a new 2005 Ford Escape about 1:30 today, and
> by
> 8:30 I was writing letters to my congressman, state senator, Ford Customer
> Relations, and Bill Ford himself. I resisted buying it, because of all
> the
> nightmare stories I had heard about SUV's. I took the chance that somehow
> they had gotten better, but then there is the Escape. We were in the turn
> lane on a six lane section of road, and were in the far right turn lane.
> We
> turned onto the far right lane of another six lane road after the light
> had
> changed to green. We weren't going more than 20-25 mph, the Escape had so
> much body roll and lean that I was sure it was going to end up on its
> side.
> What makes it even worse is that there was a great deal of torque steer,
> and
> you could feel the vehicle wanting to go out of control. Thank God the
> sun
> was out and the road was dry, and there were no bumps in the road. Had it
> been wet and had there been a bump we would have went into a unrecoverable
> skid, and most likely rolled over on the Escape's side. This vehicle has
> no
> redeeming qualities. It is about the size and shape of a Model T.
> Unfortunately a Model T has less body roll, a better ride, and doesn't
> have
> to worry about torque steer. I was so shaken by the experience that I
> would
> not ride home in it. I intended to take a taxi home rather than get into
> that death trap again. My wife drove home in it, and got my car and came
> back to get me. I prayed the entire time she was gone that she wouldn't
> be
> hurt or killed. In college I had a 1973 Pinto, and at the time I knew
> they
> cought fire and could explode. I never felt as insecure about riding in a
> car as I did in the Escape. I had a much more secure feeling in the 1973
> Pinto. After this unpleasant experience I found something that scared the
> living daylights out of me. As I walked to the back of the vehicle I
> could
> not see if any cars were comming past in the parking lot at work, until I
> cleared the back of the Escape. I am greatful that we don't have any
> young
> children now, because if I couldn't see oncomming traffic, an excited
> running child could never see or be seen. I wrote my state senator asking
> for legislation banning SUV's from school parking lots, and forcing them
> to
> outter areas of shopping centers and malls just for the safety of little
> children. I am a died in the wool Ford Fan, but after this experience, I
> sure am going to take a look at Rice Rockets. I sent an E-Mail to the
> dealership where we bought this deathmobile asking if we can put down cash
> for what we got as a trade, and this deathmobile can sit in the back yard
> until we can save up enough to trade it. I'll go to the bank on monday to
> get a signiture loan to upt down and get our eleven year old over 100,000
> mile old car back. You can't stop people from being stupid, and if my
> wife
> is dumb enough to drive that death trap there is no way I can stop her.
> But
> I know I will not risk my life, nor will I let her take anybody in it. If
> she wants to kill herself by driving the Escape so be it, but I will
> prevent
> her from hurting or killing anybody else in it.
>
>



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Old 07-24-2005, 05:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 2005 Escape Warning

His wife married a big baby and he's also too stupid to test drive
before buying. I suggest he check his wife's purse for his testicles.
No, she deserves them. Just take your name off the checking account.

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Old 07-25-2005, 09:01   #10 (permalink)
gw
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"Craig Shaffer" <CAShaffer@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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The Escape is not a truck. Try alt.vehicles.pretendtrucksforlamers

Oh yeah - You're a pussy. Buy a minivan.



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