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Old 01-14-2006, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
The Doctor
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Do I have OBD II or Something Else?

I recently took my 1996 F-250 to Autozone for a scan of my check engine
light. (Comes on every so often-doesn't stay on, though). Went outside
with a clerk and neither of us could find the OBD II connector! I have
a factory manual for this vehicle and checked the stated locations
(under dash) and found nothing! While the Autozone employee was fishing
around, just for the heck of it I checked under the hood. I found a
connector near the power brake booster that reads EEC-IV on its cover.
Is this what the scanning tool has to be hooked up to? The cover didn't
come off, either. It almost seems as it may need a special tool to
remove it. Does anyone have any answers to this situation? I thought
that *all* 1996 and after vehicles had OBD II. An old-timer that was
in the store at the time told me that since this was a 250 and not a
150, that they had the 'old-style' computers in them. Does this sound
accurate? Now I stll have to find a way to get that @#^%$ cover off!
Thanks in advance for any help!
The Doctor

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Old 01-14-2006, 21:01   #2 (permalink)
David M
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Re: Do I have OBD II or Something Else?

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:31:23 -0800, The Doctor rearranged some electrons
to form:

> I recently took my 1996 F-250 to Autozone for a scan of my check engine
> light. (Comes on every so often-doesn't stay on, though). Went outside
> with a clerk and neither of us could find the OBD II connector! I have
> a factory manual for this vehicle and checked the stated locations
> (under dash) and found nothing! While the Autozone employee was fishing
> around, just for the heck of it I checked under the hood. I found a
> connector near the power brake booster that reads EEC-IV on its cover.
> Is this what the scanning tool has to be hooked up to? The cover didn't
> come off, either. It almost seems as it may need a special tool to
> remove it. Does anyone have any answers to this situation? I thought
> that *all* 1996 and after vehicles had OBD II. An old-timer that was
> in the store at the time told me that since this was a 250 and not a
> 150, that they had the 'old-style' computers in them. Does this sound
> accurate? Now I stll have to find a way to get that @#^%$ cover off!
> Thanks in advance for any help!
> The Doctor


One of the requirements for OBDII is that the data link connector
is located near the driver's position. You have OBDI.

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Old 01-15-2006, 03:01   #3 (permalink)
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"The Doctor" <nwbender@erols.com> wrote in message
news:1137285083.840107.270300@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I recently took my 1996 F-250 to Autozone for a scan of my check engine
> light. (Comes on every so often-doesn't stay on, though). Went outside
> with a clerk and neither of us could find the OBD II connector! I have
> a factory manual for this vehicle and checked the stated locations
> (under dash) and found nothing! While the Autozone employee was fishing
> around, just for the heck of it I checked under the hood. I found a
> connector near the power brake booster that reads EEC-IV on its cover.
> Is this what the scanning tool has to be hooked up to? The cover didn't
> come off, either. It almost seems as it may need a special tool to
> remove it. Does anyone have any answers to this situation? I thought
> that *all* 1996 and after vehicles had OBD II. An old-timer that was
> in the store at the time told me that since this was a 250 and not a
> 150, that they had the 'old-style' computers in them. Does this sound
> accurate? Now I stll have to find a way to get that @#^%$ cover off!
> Thanks in advance for any help!
> The Doctor


Your 1996 has OBDI... OBDII began in 1997 for Ford F-250.


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Old 01-15-2006, 20:01   #4 (permalink)
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websurfer wrote:
> "The Doctor" <nwbender@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:1137285083.840107.270300@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>I recently took my 1996 F-250 to Autozone for a scan of my check engine
>>light. (Comes on every so often-doesn't stay on, though). Went outside
>>with a clerk and neither of us could find the OBD II connector! I have
>>a factory manual for this vehicle and checked the stated locations
>>(under dash) and found nothing! While the Autozone employee was fishing
>>around, just for the heck of it I checked under the hood. I found a
>>connector near the power brake booster that reads EEC-IV on its cover.
>>Is this what the scanning tool has to be hooked up to? The cover didn't
>>come off, either. It almost seems as it may need a special tool to
>>remove it. Does anyone have any answers to this situation? I thought
>>that *all* 1996 and after vehicles had OBD II. An old-timer that was
>>in the store at the time told me that since this was a 250 and not a
>>150, that they had the 'old-style' computers in them. Does this sound
>>accurate? Now I stll have to find a way to get that @#^%$ cover off!
>>Thanks in advance for any help!
>>The Doctor

>
>
> Your 1996 has OBDI... OBDII began in 1997 for Ford F-250.
>
>



Strange being that there were mandated by 96 on all vehicles. Some had
them sooner than 96

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Old 01-22-2006, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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If you have OBDI, like it appears you have, the connectors are accessed by
pulling them down from under the shield. there are 2 connectors you need to
access. The one marked EEC-IV and the single wire connector right next to
it. Have them hook the scanner up for the Ford OBDI connectors to pull
codes.
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Old 01-22-2006, 14:01   #6 (permalink)
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<trgrhappy@juno.com> wrote in message
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> If you have OBDI, like it appears you have, the connectors are accessed by
> pulling them down from under the shield. there are 2 connectors you need
> to
> access. The one marked EEC-IV and the single wire connector right next to
> it. Have them hook the scanner up for the Ford OBDI connectors to pull
> codes.


Doc,
Ford called there OBD-1, EEC-IV. and OBDII is EEC-V. Its all a proprietary
thing. But as for OBD-II mandates, yes it was mandated that in 1996 all auto
makers were required to START installing OBD-II on all vehicles. The problem
with this, is your truck didnt have to be made in 96 for it to be a 96 model
year truck. It could have been made anytime after July of 95. All auto
makers switch over to the next model year about half way through the
previous year, so your 96 may not have been covered by the mandate, and Ford
started installing the OBD-II diagnostics after your truck was made. The
reason they start making the next year so early, is so that they can have
ample stock to fill the dealers lots with. How else are they going to get
them out right at the first of the year? So just take it back to Autozone,
and have them hook it up to the EEC-IV, and you should have no problems
getting your codes.

Pk


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