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Old 10-05-2005, 10:01   #1 (permalink)
Matthew Warren
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F-800 dry weight

Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with a
utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with automatic.
I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would be reasonable to
license it for, since I am not going to be loading it up with seveal tons of
cable, etc. thanks


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Old 10-05-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

Matthew Warren wrote:
> Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with a
> utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with automatic.
> I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would be reasonable to
> license it for, since I am not going to be loading it up with seveal tons of
> cable, etc. thanks
>
>



Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to
20 k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license it
to maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would do
35k to give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over weight
ticket.

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Old 10-05-2005, 12:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
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> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with
>> a utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with
>> automatic. I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would
>> be reasonable to license it for, since I am not going to be loading
>> it up with seveal tons of cable, etc. thanks
>>
>>

>
>
> Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to
> 20 k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license
> it to maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would
> do 35k to give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over
> weight ticket.
>
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> www.thesnoman.com
>


no need to over lisence something that will not be loaded any more than
it already is. weight it and know for sure. KB

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Old 10-05-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

Well, the point is that I can license it for whatever it actually weighs
while in use, which for me will neer be 33k. It has the capacity for over
10k in reel capacity alone, and I won't be toting reels of wire around with
me. I am considering the purchase, but it isn't registered now, so scaling
it isn't an option. thanks


"TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with a
>> utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with
>> automatic. I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would be
>> reasonable to license it for, since I am not going to be loading it up
>> with seveal tons of cable, etc. thanks

>
>
> Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to 20
> k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license it to
> maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would do 35k to
> give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over weight ticket.
>
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> www.thesnoman.com



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Old 10-05-2005, 14:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
> news:AKT0f.9687$QE1.6106@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>
>
>>Matthew Warren wrote:
>>
>>>Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with
>>>a utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with
>>>automatic. I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would
>>>be reasonable to license it for, since I am not going to be loading
>>>it up with seveal tons of cable, etc. thanks
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to
>>20 k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license
>>it to maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would
>>do 35k to give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over
>>weight ticket.
>>
>>-----------------
>>www.thesnoman.com
>>

>
>
> no need to over lisence something that will not be loaded any more than
> it already is. weight it and know for sure. KB
>



In my state, if they happen to weigh you and you are over your
registration limit, they will sock it to you with a fine so I always buy
more than you need by a few K. You may never get stopped but it only
takes one bad day.

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Old 10-06-2005, 00:01   #6 (permalink)
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"TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:ZCW0f.10613$q1.649@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>> TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
>> news:AKT0f.9687$QE1.6106@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>>Matthew Warren wrote:
>>>
>>>>Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with
>>>>a utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with
>>>>automatic. I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would
>>>>be reasonable to license it for, since I am not going to be loading
>>>>it up with seveal tons of cable, etc. thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to
>>>20 k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license
>>>it to maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would
>>>do 35k to give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over
>>>weight ticket.
>>>
>>>-----------------
>>>www.thesnoman.com
>>>

>>
>>
>> no need to over lisence something that will not be loaded any more than
>> it already is. weight it and know for sure. KB
>>

>
>
> In my state, if they happen to weigh you and you are over your
> registration limit, they will sock it to you with a fine so I always buy
> more than you need by a few K. You may never get stopped but it only takes
> one bad day.
>


Got caught in Missouri many years ago. Cost $1.00 a pound then. Lucky for me
I was only 3,700 pounds over:(

Al


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Old 10-06-2005, 06:01   #7 (permalink)
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Big Al wrote:
> "TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:ZCW0f.10613$q1.649@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>>Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>>
>>>TheSnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote in
>>>news:AKT0f.9687$QE1.6106@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net:
>>>
>>>>Matthew Warren wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Was wondering what the unladen curb weight of an F-800 equipped with
>>>>>a utility body and a 38ft bucket. It is diesel (7.8 I think) with
>>>>>automatic. I know that the GVW is 33k, but need to know what it would
>>>>>be reasonable to license it for, since I am not going to be loading
>>>>>it up with seveal tons of cable, etc. thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Take it to a farmers grain mill and weigh it. My guess is around 18 to
>>>>20 k though. Not sure how it is in your state but in mine you license
>>>>it to maximum weight in use. In your case it would be 33k but I would
>>>>do 35k to give you some leaway because it is cheaper than a over
>>>>weight ticket.
>>>>
>>>>-----------------
>>>>www.thesnoman.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>no need to over lisence something that will not be loaded any more than
>>>it already is. weight it and know for sure. KB
>>>

>>
>>
>>In my state, if they happen to weigh you and you are over your
>>registration limit, they will sock it to you with a fine so I always buy
>>more than you need by a few K. You may never get stopped but it only takes
>>one bad day.
>>

>
>
> Got caught in Missouri many years ago. Cost $1.00 a pound then. Lucky for me
> I was only 3,700 pounds over:(
>
> Al
>
>



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Old 10-08-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

Matthew Warren wrote:
> Well, the point is that I can license it for whatever it actually weighs
> while in use, which for me will neer be 33k. It has the capacity for over
> 10k in reel capacity alone, and I won't be toting reels of wire around with
> me. I am considering the purchase, but it isn't registered now, so scaling
> it isn't an option. thanks
>


If it's driveable; get a "trip permit", as truckers do when they are
driving thru a state where they don't have a regular licence to operate.
It might be different in your state but WA also allows you to drive or
tow a currently unlicenced/unregistered vehicle for a short time with a
permit and not very expensive.

That would get you to a scale.

F800 set up for wire reels?
Is it just a "hauler"(racks for reels only) or does it have all the
drives and tensioners set up for pulling wire? I don't know what your
plans are; but if it's a puller you could shed some serious weight by
removing the pulling gear. If it has a separate engine setup for
hydraulics; it's definitely a puller; although some did use a PTO system.
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Old 10-08-2005, 19:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

It is equipped with a bucket and the gear for pulling, but the hydraulics
are pto... I guess it's a pto, it runs off the front of the engine, not a
trans pto. Thanks for the trip permit info, I'll check into that.

Matt


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> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Well, the point is that I can license it for whatever it actually weighs
>> while in use, which for me will neer be 33k. It has the capacity for
>> over 10k in reel capacity alone, and I won't be toting reels of wire
>> around with me. I am considering the purchase, but it isn't registered
>> now, so scaling it isn't an option. thanks
>>

>
> If it's driveable; get a "trip permit", as truckers do when they are
> driving thru a state where they don't have a regular licence to operate.
> It might be different in your state but WA also allows you to drive or tow
> a currently unlicenced/unregistered vehicle for a short time with a permit
> and not very expensive.
>
> That would get you to a scale.
>
> F800 set up for wire reels?
> Is it just a "hauler"(racks for reels only) or does it have all the drives
> and tensioners set up for pulling wire? I don't know what your plans are;
> but if it's a puller you could shed some serious weight by removing the
> pulling gear. If it has a separate engine setup for hydraulics; it's
> definitely a puller; although some did use a PTO system.



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Old 10-09-2005, 08:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: F-800 dry weight

Matthew Warren wrote:
> It is equipped with a bucket and the gear for pulling, but the hydraulics
> are pto... I guess it's a pto, it runs off the front of the engine, not a
> trans pto. Thanks for the trip permit info, I'll check into that.
>
> Matt
>


Sounds like a belt-drive "pto" (it's not really a pto as most folks used
to define it). If you have plans on using the bucket; you'll need it.

I'd be leery of the bucket tho. Those usually cost more than the base
truck as new; they usually get transferred to the replacement truck if
in good shape. By the time they show up "used"; they are pretty well
shot. If it's an insulated boom; it probably won't pass a dielectric
test (if that's the case; it still may work OK for non-electrical stuff
like tree-trimming and such; just stay the hell away from powerlines!).
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