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Rudy wrote:
>>>Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350.
>
> 2002 models: 250 GVW 8800, 350 GVW 9900.
>
> The trucks (C/C w PSD )weigh around 7500 lbs, full fuel 2 pax so that leaves
> only 1400 lbs box capacity in the 250 but 2400 in the 350.
>
> Given the pin wt of my Cardinal 33RLBW is about 2300 lbs, the 350 is right
> on for towing and the 250 is hopelessly over GVW.. by nearly 1000 lbs.
>
> The newer models have "upped' the GVW on each.
>
>
>
This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you
might have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of
around 5k and the stronger rear axle with a rating of 6K of more may
only have 3500lbs on it at rated GVW. Myself I tend take GVW ratings
with a grain of salt in that I watch axle and tire capacity not GVW
rating because that is what can get you in trouble. A 250 will carry the
pin weight just fine and I would not get it a second thought as it has
the same axles, brakes and frame as the 350.
"TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> Rudy wrote:
>>>>Can anybody tell me the real difference between an F250 & F350.
>>
>> 2002 models: 250 GVW 8800, 350 GVW 9900.
>>
>> The trucks (C/C w PSD )weigh around 7500 lbs, full fuel 2 pax so that
>> leaves only 1400 lbs box capacity in the 250 but 2400 in the 350.
>>
>> Given the pin wt of my Cardinal 33RLBW is about 2300 lbs, the 350 is
>> right on for towing and the 250 is hopelessly over GVW.. by nearly 1000
>> lbs.
>>
>> The newer models have "upped' the GVW on each.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you might
> have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of around 5k
> and the stronger rear axle with a rating of 6K of more may only have
> 3500lbs on it at rated GVW. Myself I tend take GVW ratings with a grain of
> salt in that I watch axle and tire capacity not GVW rating because that is
> what can get you in trouble. A 250 will carry the pin weight just fine and
> I would not get it a second thought as it has the same axles, brakes and
> frame as the 350.
>
I think this is right, but not the same springs. That is the difference,
just springs, and maybe the size of a tire. If you go with a dually, you
also have twice as many sidewalls that gotta flex in response to sideways
forces. That's not an enormous issue, but it's certainly a difference.
In article <JdS6f.11712$xk2.2503@fe06.lga>, "Joe" <Joe@dontspam.net>
wrote:
> "TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
> news:bEK5f.18893$q1.2620@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
....
> > This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you might
> > have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of around 5k
> > and the stronger rear axle with a rating of 6K of more may only have
> > 3500lbs on it at rated GVW. Myself I tend take GVW ratings with a grain of
> > salt in that I watch axle and tire capacity not GVW rating because that is
> > what can get you in trouble. A 250 will carry the pin weight just fine and
> > I would not get it a second thought as it has the same axles, brakes and
> > frame as the 350.
> >
> I think this is right, but not the same springs. That is the difference,
> just springs, and maybe the size of a tire. If you go with a dually, you
> also have twice as many sidewalls that gotta flex in response to sideways
> forces. That's not an enormous issue, but it's certainly a difference.
>
My recall is this is true for the 2002 models, but it is NOT true for
all model years. Some model years the front axle is different, as are
the springs
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Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> In article <JdS6f.11712$xk2.2503@fe06.lga>, "Joe" <Joe@dontspam.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"TheSnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
>>news:bEK5f.18893$q1.2620@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> ...
>
>>>This GVW rating is greatly over played because with a PSD truck you might
>>>have 4500 to 5000 lbs on front axle that only has a rating of around 5k
>>>and the stronger rear axle with a rating of 6K of more may only have
>>>3500lbs on it at rated GVW. Myself I tend take GVW ratings with a grain of
>>>salt in that I watch axle and tire capacity not GVW rating because that is
>>>what can get you in trouble. A 250 will carry the pin weight just fine and
>>>I would not get it a second thought as it has the same axles, brakes and
>>>frame as the 350.
>>>
>>
>>I think this is right, but not the same springs. That is the difference,
>>just springs, and maybe the size of a tire. If you go with a dually, you
>>also have twice as many sidewalls that gotta flex in response to sideways
>>forces. That's not an enormous issue, but it's certainly a difference.
>>
>
> My recall is this is true for the 2002 models, but it is NOT true for
> all model years. Some model years the front axle is different, as are
> the springs
>
Springs are easy to fix with adding a leaf to them. On the front axle,
Foord used a D50 in some SD F2500 and generally a D60 in a 350. THe D50
is basically a D60 style housing with D44 gears and bigger axle shafts
and stubs (bigger than a D44) Weight capacity in of little difference
between them. The only issue with them is if you plan a big lift with
big tires, you want the D60, not the D50
You have the V10 right? How did you determine if it is a 60?
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
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> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:17:26 -0700, Matt Mead
> <mdmead@DELETETHIScharter.net> wrote:
>
>>That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
>>60 front.
>
> My '02 SRW SuperDuty (F350) has a Dana 60 up front.
"The OTHER Kevin in San Diego" <skiddz "AT" adelphia "DOT" net> wrote in
message news:4tjgl11feghur5pfjobp4mgs9uljcsgekc@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:17:26 -0700, Matt Mead
> <mdmead@DELETETHIScharter.net> wrote:
>
>>That may be, but initially I recall only the dually 350s ran the Dana
>>60 front.
>
> My '02 SRW SuperDuty (F350) has a Dana 60 up front.
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