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Old 08-12-2005, 15:01   #1 (permalink)
Julian Child
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Ford Ranger Redesign


I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.

Let's see---it was once slated for 2005, then 2008, and now it's 2010.
For those of you who haven't stopped at your local gas station for a few
days, gas is up around .15 cents a gallon. At least to me, a Ford Ranger
is a much more practical truck than the Ford 150.

I own a Ford Ranger and I love it. Yeah, it's a little ( more than a
little ) dated, but I love the compact size. Contrary to what I read,
the seats are super comfortable. Of course, everyone has a different
body but the Ranger fits my body. I wouldn't trade my Ranger for two
F-150s. Well, maybe for two gas stations.

Slating a redesign of the Ford Ranger for 2010 is a little like the Iraq
War. It has the look of a money-draining, losing proposition anyway you
look at it.

I think Ford must give some serious thought as to what is the future of
this compact truck, and not let it slowly sink into a certain death
spiral. It's been in the emergency room for years. A slow death is not
pretty, and a 2010 redesign is certainly a slow, painful death.

Three dollar a gallon gas might boost Ranger sales a bit. Maybe compact
trucks will be "cool" again. I hope so!!!!!!


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Old 08-12-2005, 17:01   #2 (permalink)
Scott
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign


"Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4793-42FD1515-389@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>
> I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.
>


> I think Ford must give some serious thought as to what is the future of
> this compact truck, and not let it slowly sink into a certain death
> spiral. It's been in the emergency room for years. A slow death is not
> pretty, and a 2010 redesign is certainly a slow, painful death.
>
> Three dollar a gallon gas might boost Ranger sales a bit. Maybe compact
> trucks will be "cool" again. I hope so!!!!!!



I guess you didn't read the latest sales figures for Rangers.
They outsell S-10 by about 3 to 1. Don't dig them any graves
yet.

I am on my third and one of the things I like about them is that
they don't change them too much, just a needed upgrade now
and then.


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Old 08-12-2005, 18:01   #3 (permalink)
Mark Jones
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

"Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4793-42FD1515-389@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>
> I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.
>
> Let's see---it was once slated for 2005, then 2008, and now it's 2010.
> For those of you who haven't stopped at your local gas station for a few
> days, gas is up around .15 cents a gallon. At least to me, a Ford Ranger
> is a much more practical truck than the Ford 150.

I get close to the same mileage with my 2004 F-150 4x4 with the
5.4L Triton that I got with my 2000 Ranger 4x4 4.0L. I got rid of
the Ranger because it just wasn't big enough to safely pull the
kind of camping trailer that I wanted. The F-150 is so much
better that it isn't even a fair comparison.


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Old 08-12-2005, 20:01   #4 (permalink)
Julian Child
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign


Scott,

Yes, I agree. I love my Ford Ranger, and it's a pleasure to drive. I
guess my 2002 will be in style for quite a while, but from a marketing
concept it's pretty dumb for a major redesign cycle to be 10 or 15 years
in the car industry.

How can the Ford Ranger effectively compete when other trucks have new
designs on a more regular basis? Yeah, it's a great truck, but 10 or 15
years for a redesign is pushing things a bit.

How many guys are going to get the girls wearing leisure suits?? How
many girls are going to get the guys with a Farah Fawcett hairdo?? I'm
exaggerating a bit, but it's not cool looking dated.

The Chevrolet Colorado is fairly new, but I think General Motors missed
the mark from a styling standpoint. It's just blah to me, and I've seen
very, very few on the road. I think the Ford Ranger is a superior truck,
even with the older body style.

Value-wise, the Ford Ranger is a great buy, but waiting another five
years for a redesign is toooo long.

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Old 08-12-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
Julian Child
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign


Mark,

The Ford Ranger doesn't have the towing capacity of a Ford F-150. Of
course, the big rigs at tractor pulling contests put a little dust on
the Ford-150.

I own a 2x2 extended cab, and its gas mileage is okay as far as trucks
are concerned. The Ford F-150 is more technologically advanced, so it's
more fuel efficient.

If gas gets to $3.00 dollars a gallon, staying at home is fuel efficient
too.

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Old 08-12-2005, 22:01   #6 (permalink)
JohnR66
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

"Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4793-42FD1515-389@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>
> I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.
>
> Let's see---it was once slated for 2005, then 2008, and now it's 2010.
> For those of you who haven't stopped at your local gas station for a few
> days, gas is up around .15 cents a gallon. At least to me, a Ford Ranger
> is a much more practical truck than the Ford 150.
>
> I own a Ford Ranger and I love it. Yeah, it's a little ( more than a
> little ) dated, but I love the compact size. Contrary to what I read,
> the seats are super comfortable. Of course, everyone has a different
> body but the Ranger fits my body. I wouldn't trade my Ranger for two
> F-150s. Well, maybe for two gas stations.
>
> Slating a redesign of the Ford Ranger for 2010 is a little like the Iraq
> War. It has the look of a money-draining, losing proposition anyway you
> look at it.
>
> I think Ford must give some serious thought as to what is the future of
> this compact truck, and not let it slowly sink into a certain death
> spiral. It's been in the emergency room for years. A slow death is not
> pretty, and a 2010 redesign is certainly a slow, painful death.
>
> Three dollar a gallon gas might boost Ranger sales a bit. Maybe compact
> trucks will be "cool" again. I hope so!!!!!!
>
>

I bought my Ranger last spring. It is a very basic 4 cyl 5 speed. While I
could afford much more truck, it is simply overkill for me. I don't tow
anything and don't need the extra cab room. I would rather kept my 01
taurus, but I needed to hall materials around for a side business I started.
I was put off by the gas mileage of the 3L V6, that has only 7 more HP. I
average 27mpg and got 30mpg on 60% freeway driving. I estimate I could do as
good as 33 mpg on the freeway.

With the other makers moving to larger "compact" trucks, Ford probably sees
the opportunity to leave the Ranger alone for awhile.
John


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Old 08-12-2005, 22:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

"Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Mark,
>
> The Ford Ranger doesn't have the towing capacity of a Ford F-150. Of
> course, the big rigs at tractor pulling contests put a little dust on
> the Ford-150.
>
> I own a 2x2 extended cab, and its gas mileage is okay as far as trucks
> are concerned. The Ford F-150 is more technologically advanced, so it's
> more fuel efficient.
>
> If gas gets to $3.00 dollars a gallon, staying at home is fuel efficient
> too.

I saw on the news tonight that gas has topped the $3.00 mark
in parts of California. Crude oil hit another high today at
almost $67 a barrel. Doesn't look good.


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Old 08-13-2005, 11:01   #8 (permalink)
Charles B. Summers, QOF.
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

My 02 Ranger Edge 3.0 get pretty much the same MPG as my 01 F-150 4.2. Only
difference I can tell is it takes about $60.00 to fill up the F-150 right
now, where as the Ranger can be filled for about $20.00 LOL.

Still, I only drive my F-150 now to pull my boat, or when I want to throw
something other than a bike in the bed.

Yup... love the Rangers. This is my fourth one! Every one that I've sold or
traded were still excellent trucks. My last one had over 150k miles and
still ran as smoothe as the day I bought it.


"Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4793-42FD1515-389@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>
> I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.
>
> Let's see---it was once slated for 2005, then 2008, and now it's 2010.
> For those of you who haven't stopped at your local gas station for a few
> days, gas is up around .15 cents a gallon. At least to me, a Ford Ranger
> is a much more practical truck than the Ford 150.
>
> I own a Ford Ranger and I love it. Yeah, it's a little ( more than a
> little ) dated, but I love the compact size. Contrary to what I read,
> the seats are super comfortable. Of course, everyone has a different
> body but the Ranger fits my body. I wouldn't trade my Ranger for two
> F-150s. Well, maybe for two gas stations.
>
> Slating a redesign of the Ford Ranger for 2010 is a little like the Iraq
> War. It has the look of a money-draining, losing proposition anyway you
> look at it.
>
> I think Ford must give some serious thought as to what is the future of
> this compact truck, and not let it slowly sink into a certain death
> spiral. It's been in the emergency room for years. A slow death is not
> pretty, and a 2010 redesign is certainly a slow, painful death.
>
> Three dollar a gallon gas might boost Ranger sales a bit. Maybe compact
> trucks will be "cool" again. I hope so!!!!!!
>
>



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Old 08-13-2005, 19:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

Your ranger has a 8 gallon tank?

My 2003 Mustang GT (4.6L V8) and a 89 Escort (1.9L I4) I had got the same
gas mileage ~23mpg in similar driving. Not to mention the Mustang is over
1,000 lbs heavier.

"Charles B. Summers, QOF." <hidingmyreal@ddress.phacue> wrote in message
news:QpKdnYuwhYNmumPfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> My 02 Ranger Edge 3.0 get pretty much the same MPG as my 01 F-150 4.2.
> Only difference I can tell is it takes about $60.00 to fill up the F-150
> right now, where as the Ranger can be filled for about $20.00 LOL.
>
> Still, I only drive my F-150 now to pull my boat, or when I want to throw
> something other than a bike in the bed.
>
> Yup... love the Rangers. This is my fourth one! Every one that I've sold
> or traded were still excellent trucks. My last one had over 150k miles and
> still ran as smoothe as the day I bought it.
>
>
> "Julian Child" <Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:4793-42FD1515-389@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>>
>> I just read that the redesign of the Ford Ranger is now slated for 2010.
>>
>> Let's see---it was once slated for 2005, then 2008, and now it's 2010.
>> For those of you who haven't stopped at your local gas station for a few
>> days, gas is up around .15 cents a gallon. At least to me, a Ford Ranger
>> is a much more practical truck than the Ford 150.
>>
>> I own a Ford Ranger and I love it. Yeah, it's a little ( more than a
>> little ) dated, but I love the compact size. Contrary to what I read,
>> the seats are super comfortable. Of course, everyone has a different
>> body but the Ranger fits my body. I wouldn't trade my Ranger for two
>> F-150s. Well, maybe for two gas stations.
>>
>> Slating a redesign of the Ford Ranger for 2010 is a little like the Iraq
>> War. It has the look of a money-draining, losing proposition anyway you
>> look at it.
>>
>> I think Ford must give some serious thought as to what is the future of
>> this compact truck, and not let it slowly sink into a certain death
>> spiral. It's been in the emergency room for years. A slow death is not
>> pretty, and a 2010 redesign is certainly a slow, painful death.
>>
>> Three dollar a gallon gas might boost Ranger sales a bit. Maybe compact
>> trucks will be "cool" again. I hope so!!!!!!
>>
>>

>
>



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Old 08-13-2005, 19:01   #10 (permalink)
pyotr filipivich
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Re: Ford Ranger Redesign

Let the record show that Books_Are_Cooked@webtv.net (Julian Child) wrote
back on Fri, 12 Aug 2005 21:42:10 -0400 in alt.trucks.ford :
>
>Scott,
>
>Yes, I agree. I love my Ford Ranger, and it's a pleasure to drive. I
>guess my 2002 will be in style for quite a while, but from a marketing
>concept it's pretty dumb for a major redesign cycle to be 10 or 15 years
>in the car industry.
>
>How can the Ford Ranger effectively compete when other trucks have new
>designs on a more regular basis? Yeah, it's a great truck, but 10 or 15
>years for a redesign is pushing things a bit.
>
>How many guys are going to get the girls wearing leisure suits?? How
>many girls are going to get the guys with a Farah Fawcett hairdo?? I'm
>exaggerating a bit, but it's not cool looking dated.
>
>The Chevrolet Colorado is fairly new, but I think General Motors missed
>the mark from a styling standpoint. It's just blah to me, and I've seen
>very, very few on the road. I think the Ford Ranger is a superior truck,
>even with the older body style.
>
>Value-wise, the Ford Ranger is a great buy, but waiting another five
>years for a redesign is toooo long.


What are they intending to change? The Sheet metal? Oh Bog, save us.
I've looked at some of the "new" styling, and all I can say is "I want a
hood on which I can spread a map or blueprint upon, and be able to 'gather
round Jungen'.

As far as the rest go ... keep the small engine, at least as an option.
for the Fuel Economy as much as anything else. Same goes for manual
transmissions. I could care less about 4x4, that is just one more set of
components to need PM, not to mention the drag on fuel economy. And put a
tachometer in as standard with a manual tranny.

And I'm not so sure that "rally gages" as OEM would be a bad idea. I
got real used to an Ammeter which was more specific than "charge -
discharge". Yeah, most people don't need that much precision, but so what?
They don't know, so they don't ask.

I can see a need for radio speakers moved so they are not down by my
ankles. That's a serious rant .. :-)

But that is what I want in a light truck - fuel efficient engine,
manual tranny, no 4x4 and in just about any color but Red or Black. I'm
not hauling bricks to work, or towing a boat to the lake, so a "small"
truck is just perfect. Which is what I got.

tschus
pyotr


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