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Old 09-25-2005, 00:01   #1 (permalink)
Kev5150
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Front Rotors

I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped and
was thinking about taking them off and having them turned. Should I also
replace the pads as well or should I be looking at something else for this
problem?
Just started doing this and want to take care of it before the snow flies!
Any help is very much appreciated.

Thanks Kevin



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Old 09-25-2005, 07:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

>brakes on, the front end shakes terrible. I
> am assuming my rotors are warped and
> was thinking about taking them off and
> having them turned


If 'shaking' is that noticeable/violent, the rotors may not be able to
be turned to the minimum safe thickness.....(if the rotors are the
problem) Be prepared to buy new rotors. Yes replacing the pads would
be the thing to do while you are at it....with either turned or new
rotors.

Dave S(Texas)

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Old 09-25-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

Kev5150 wrote:
> I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
> on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped and
> was thinking about taking them off and having them turned. Should I also
> replace the pads as well or should I be looking at something else for this
> problem?
> Just started doing this and want to take care of it before the snow flies!
> Any help is very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks Kevin
>
>
>


You may be able to turn them, depends on the thickness currently left,
and how much has to be taken off to get them to where they should be.
As for pads, with 38k on them, they may be getting down to the point
where it would make sense to replace them now anyhow. That way either
you don't have to redo them later or have someone pull everything again
to put on new pads.
Best thing to be done to keep your turned or new rotors from warping is
to keep the lug nuts torqued to the proper ft lbs. This should be listed
in your owners manual. Unevenly torqued lugs with the heating and
colling of the rotors will always make them warp. Don't assume because
someone has used a torque stick to put the lugs on that they are
properly torqued. I always use my own torque wrench after any work is
done on my vehicle and whenever I do any work myself. That plus an
occasional re-torque.
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Old 09-25-2005, 14:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

Kev5150 wrote:
> I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
> on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped and
> was thinking about taking them off and having them turned. Should I also
> replace the pads as well or should I be looking at something else for this
> problem?
> Just started doing this and want to take care of it before the snow flies!
> Any help is very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks Kevin
>

This is not to discount what anyone else has written. You should follow
that advise as you see fit. In my case, it wasn't the normal things
you'd neccessarily look for that were causing the same problem. The
culprit was the brake line itself. At some point...I think it was when
the wheel bearing was going bad...the left front brake line was heated
and the rubber inside the stainless steel braid had deterioriated. The
fluid would flow near normal to the caliper, but would be slow on the
return causing the brake to bind. What made it hard to diagnose was
that there was no visible markings on the exterior of the brakes line,
nor was the flow noticeably different to the brake. It took my top
knotch mechanic to figure out what the real problem was. If it turns
out not to be the rotors, calipers, or pads you may want to look into it
being the brake line.

01 F350 PSD Crew Dually
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Old 09-25-2005, 14:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

Thanks Guys for the replies, I will put new pads on right away. I thought I
should do that, but I wanted to get a second opinion.
Thanks for mentioning your brake line problem too Agave. I will look into
this if the problem continues.
Thanks again everyone,
Kevin

"Agave" <idon't@thinkso.com> wrote in message
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> Kev5150 wrote:
>> I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
>> on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped and
>> was thinking about taking them off and having them turned. Should I also
>> replace the pads as well or should I be looking at something else for
>> this problem?
>> Just started doing this and want to take care of it before the snow
>> flies!
>> Any help is very much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks Kevin
>>

> This is not to discount what anyone else has written. You should follow
> that advise as you see fit. In my case, it wasn't the normal things you'd
> neccessarily look for that were causing the same problem. The culprit was
> the brake line itself. At some point...I think it was when the wheel
> bearing was going bad...the left front brake line was heated and the
> rubber inside the stainless steel braid had deterioriated. The fluid
> would flow near normal to the caliper, but would be slow on the return
> causing the brake to bind. What made it hard to diagnose was that there
> was no visible markings on the exterior of the brakes line, nor was the
> flow noticeably different to the brake. It took my top knotch mechanic to
> figure out what the real problem was. If it turns out not to be the
> rotors, calipers, or pads you may want to look into it being the brake
> line.
>
> 01 F350 PSD Crew Dually



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Old 09-26-2005, 19:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

I took my '02 F350 with the same rotor wobble into Midas brakes in Tucson.
They turned rotors (front only) and replaced seals (this is required on 2WD
not 4wd) for $ 75.00 in under an hour.
SMOOTH now. Didnt replace the pads.

BTW, I got the price and job desc written up FIRST.

R
>I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
>on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped..



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Old 09-29-2005, 11:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Front Rotors

just be careful with Midas...
"Rudy" <NoSpam@no-onehome.net> wrote in message
news:ex1_e.266228$Hk.117882@pd7tw1no...
I took my '02 F350 with the same rotor wobble into Midas brakes in Tucson.
They turned rotors (front only) and replaced seals (this is required on 2WD
not 4wd) for $ 75.00 in under an hour.
SMOOTH now. Didnt replace the pads.

BTW, I got the price and job desc written up FIRST.

R
>I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the brakes
>on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are warped..




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Old 10-03-2005, 16:01   #8 (permalink)
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"Agave" <idon't@thinkso.com> wrote in message
news:C-Cdna_cS4LYnarenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Kev5150 wrote:
>> I have a 03 F-250 SD with about 38,000 miles on it. When I put the
>> brakes on, the front end shakes terrible. I am assuming my rotors are
>> warped and was thinking about taking them off and having them turned.
>> Should I also replace the pads as well or should I be looking at
>> something else for this problem?
>> Just started doing this and want to take care of it before the snow
>> flies!
>> Any help is very much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks Kevin
>>

> This is not to discount what anyone else has written. You should
> follow that advise as you see fit. In my case, it wasn't the normal
> things you'd neccessarily look for that were causing the same problem.
> The culprit was the brake line itself. At some point...I think it was
> when the wheel bearing was going bad...the left front brake line was
> heated and the rubber inside the stainless steel braid had
> deterioriated. The fluid would flow near normal to the caliper, but
> would be slow on the return causing the brake to bind. What made it
> hard to diagnose was that there was no visible markings on the
> exterior of the brakes line, nor was the flow noticeably different to
> the brake. It took my top knotch mechanic to figure out what the real
> problem was. If it turns out not to be the rotors, calipers, or pads
> you may want to look into it being the brake line.
>
> 01 F350 PSD Crew Dually


A quick test will determine if it is a deteriorated brake line. Let
vehicle sit for a couple of minutes to allow brake line pressure to
neutralize, raise the wheel off of the ground, spin it, note the
resistance felt. With someone else sitting behind the wheel, spin it
again. Have them apply and release the brake. You should be able to
immediately spin the wheel with about the same resistance felt earlier.
If more drag is felt, check further. Another test is to just crack the
bleeder after the brake has been released. If pressure remains in the
line, the inner line is failing. Actually, this situation is a lot more
common than you would think. Any halfway decent mechanic knows about
it.


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