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Old 02-03-2006, 21:01   #11 (permalink)
David M
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:

> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or trucks of
> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring release
> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
>
> CJB


Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.

Any other questions?


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Old 02-03-2006, 22:01   #12 (permalink)
CJB
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

Under the hood, you have garder spring fittings, I'll agree. But on the
frame rail the filter has this:
http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a358f.gif

CJB


"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.04.04.52.09.35943@sled351...
> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:
>
>> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or trucks
>> of
>> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring release
>> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
>>
>> CJB

>
> Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
> fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.
>
> Any other questions?
>
>
> --
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> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:01   #13 (permalink)
lugnut
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

On 1 Feb 2006 16:00:13 -0800, "Robbie"
<crhcotton@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I want to change out the fuel filter in my 1995 F-150 4x4. I noticed
>that the filter has a clip on each end. Do you remove the filter by
>removing the clips and pulling the gas line off of each end. I would
>appreciate any help or advice.



If your connectors have a "U" shaped plastic lock, just cut
the ends and pull them out. The lines can then be pulled
out of the filter.

If you have the same filter as my '93 F150, it has a metal
safety clip on each connection. You will need to pull them
off and use a garter spring release tool to remove the lines
from the filter. They are available in the size you need
individually or in a set. Beware that you will need a tool
with a long tube for this connector. The short ones will
not release it. Be sure to release the fuel pressure before
pulling the fuel line from the filter. Be prepared to spill
som fuel. That damn filter must hold about 2 gallons! Also,
some of these things came from the factory with no garter
springs in the connection as was the case with mine. This
was discovered when the recall was done on the switching
valve and garter springs installed. If you find that it
does not have them, you need to install them. I have seen
fuel pressure in these system go over 100 psi which may
result in separation of the connector if the fuel pressure
regulator fails as mine has a couple of times.

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Old 02-04-2006, 10:01   #14 (permalink)
David M
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:00:43 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:



> Under the hood, you have garder spring fittings, I'll agree. But on the
> frame rail the filter has this:
> http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a358f.gif
>
> CJB


Wrong again. The filter on the frame rail has garter spring
connectors. I guess nothing will convince you.
I've changed that filter a dozen times, so I know what
my truck has, so that's all that matters.

Any other questions?

>
> "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.04.04.52.09.35943@sled351...
>> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:
>>
>>> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or trucks
>>> of
>>> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring release
>>> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
>>>
>>> CJB

>>
>> Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
>> fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.
>>
>> Any other questions?
>>
>>
>> --
>> David M (dmacchiarolo)
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
>> T/S 53
>> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 1:30
>>


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Old 02-04-2006, 10:01   #15 (permalink)
David M
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:00:43 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:

> Under the hood, you have garder spring fittings, I'll agree. But on the
> frame rail the filter has this:
> http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a358f.gif
>
> CJB


PS, they're not "garder" springs, they are "garter" springs.


>
> "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.04.04.52.09.35943@sled351...
>> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:
>>
>>> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or trucks
>>> of
>>> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring release
>>> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
>>>
>>> CJB

>>
>> Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
>> fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.
>>
>> Any other questions?
>>
>>
>> --
>> David M (dmacchiarolo)
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
>> T/S 53
>> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 1:30
>>


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Old 02-06-2006, 06:01   #16 (permalink)
IYM
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

I Guarantee you that David M. is correct on at least the '99 F-150...I
changed mine a month ago and it was the "NASA" designed "in-line" connectors
(or garder/garter) ;) couldn't figure out why they had to make things so
complicated and reinvent the wheel. The only thing I came up with was that
since it was underneath on the rail, maybe they had complaints in the past
about brush/debris snagging the fuel line while off-roading and pulling the
line off...Seems remote, but it was a thought.

Scott

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news:pan.2006.02.04.17.40.54.430738@sled351...
> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:00:43 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:
>
>
>
> > Under the hood, you have garder spring fittings, I'll agree. But on the
> > frame rail the filter has this:
> > http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a358f.gif
> >
> > CJB

>
> Wrong again. The filter on the frame rail has garter spring
> connectors. I guess nothing will convince you.
> I've changed that filter a dozen times, so I know what
> my truck has, so that's all that matters.
>
> Any other questions?
>
> >
> > "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2006.02.04.04.52.09.35943@sled351...
> >> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to

form:
> >>
> >>> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or

trucks
> >>> of
> >>> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring

release
> >>> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
> >>>
> >>> CJB
> >>
> >> Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
> >> fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.
> >>
> >> Any other questions?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David M (dmacchiarolo)
> >> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> >> T/S 53
> >> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 1:30
> >>

>
> --
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> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> T/S 53
> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 14:20
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Old 02-06-2006, 13:01   #17 (permalink)
Whitelightning
 
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Re: Fuel Filter


"IYM" <sunrisr@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:ds7jqc$et9@dispatch.concentric.net...
> I Guarantee you that David M. is correct on at least the '99 F-150...I
> changed mine a month ago and it was the "NASA" designed "in-line"

connectors
> (or garder/garter) ;) couldn't figure out why they had to make things

so
> complicated and reinvent the wheel. The only thing I came up with was

that
> since it was underneath on the rail, maybe they had complaints in the past
> about brush/debris snagging the fuel line while off-roading and pulling

the
> line off...Seems remote, but it was a thought.
>
> Scott


Installing the fuel filter requires no tools, no extra steps like inserting
the retaining clips
so it speeds up the assembly line. Granted its just a second or two, but
add that up
over the entire length of the line..... a second here, five or six there, 30
seconds yonder....
If you can increase productivity by three cars a line per shift, your
talking 2100 cars a year
per assembly line, at a plant running two shifts. Running three shifts
that's 3150 more a year..

Whitelightning


 
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Old 02-10-2006, 13:01   #18 (permalink)
pkurtz2
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

Regardless of what David M has said. You would be hard pressed to find the
garter springs on more than 2% of the trucks ford has made. Just take a
quick look at your fuel filter and if it has clips on it, it will be fairly
straight into the housing. If it has garter springs, then you will see what
looks like a donut on both ends of the filter, inline with the fuel line.
Atleast this way you know if you need to buy the spring release tool while
you are picking up the fuel filter. I have a 2000 Ford Ranger 3.0L Flex
Fuel, and I have the clips, and every other loving car I have seen in the
midwest has had them clips as well. If you have clips, the first time or two
you are BOUND to break one. SO pick some up at the parts store if they arent
in the box. Also, I think they put the garter springs on the vehicles for
the colder parts of the world ie: Upper Canada, and Alaska. Where it gets so
cold, you can actually break a clip just by hitting a bump, and so the
springs would be a lot better to have. Ok my piece is said. Final ruling,
just look at your frame rail on drivers side and see if it has the clips
there. If it has clips, just use a flat head screwdriver and pull them out
GENTLY.
Pk


"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.04.17.42.42.406948@sled351...
> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 05:00:43 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to form:
>
>> Under the hood, you have garder spring fittings, I'll agree. But on the
>> frame rail the filter has this:
>> http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/g...3d800a358f.gif
>>
>> CJB

>
> PS, they're not "garder" springs, they are "garter" springs.
>
>
>>
>> "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.04.04.52.09.35943@sled351...
>>> On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 04:44:19 +0000, CJB rearranged some electrons to
>>> form:
>>>
>>>> Methinks you're mistaken. I've done fuel filters on Ford cars or
>>>> trucks
>>>> of
>>>> just about every year in the 90's. I've never needed the spring
>>>> release
>>>> tool. they all have had those plastic clips.
>>>>
>>>> CJB
>>>
>>> Methinks not. There's no plastic clips on the
>>> fuel lines. The filter uses the garter-spring connectors.
>>>
>>> Any other questions?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> David M (dmacchiarolo)
>>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
>>> T/S 53
>>> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 1:30
>>>

>
> --
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> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> T/S 53
> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 3 days 14:27
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Old 02-10-2006, 18:01   #19 (permalink)
David M
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:55:13 -0600, pkurtz2 rearranged some electrons to
form:

> Regardless of what David M has said. You would be hard pressed to find the
> garter springs on more than 2% of the trucks ford has made.


Like I told SFB earlier, I don't give a s**t what your opinion is.
I know what's on my truck.

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Old 02-13-2006, 05:01   #20 (permalink)
IYM
 
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Re: Fuel Filter

Exactly Dave - And it's not like I had to go back to the auto store with the
fuel filter saying "this is the wrong kind, mine looks like this". I told
them my truck, and they gave me the one with the garter/quick connects, so
THEY know what's right.

"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.11.01.08.16.944828@sled351...
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:55:13 -0600, pkurtz2 rearranged some electrons to
> form:
>
> > Regardless of what David M has said. You would be hard pressed to find

the
> > garter springs on more than 2% of the trucks ford has made.

>
> Like I told SFB earlier, I don't give a s**t what your opinion is.
> I know what's on my truck.
>
> --
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> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
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