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Old 09-11-2005, 18:01   #1 (permalink)
newrvguy
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HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is the
shortbox, single cab 5 speed
with 2.3 L Gas engine.
It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
runs fine.
If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
Greatly appreciated.

P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying it
that I am worried about.
It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a problem.
Thinking of giving Ford a try


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Old 09-11-2005, 19:01   #2 (permalink)
CJB
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

An 89 Ranger should have a hydraulic clutch, so I'm not sure that there's an
adjustment of a spring you can make.

As to the check engine light, on an 89, you can pull the codes without even
a code reader. If you buy a code reader, it's less than $30 and comes with
the book of instructions and codes so you know why the light is coming on.

The 2.3 is a durable engine, but no engine is bullet (or idiot) proof. A
compression test would tell you a lot about it.

Those are solid little trucks, and if you don't find anything outstandingly
wrong with it, I'd go for it.

CJB

"newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is the
> shortbox, single cab 5 speed
> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
> runs fine.
> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
> Greatly appreciated.
>
> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying
> it that I am worried about.
> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a problem.
> Thinking of giving Ford a try
>



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Old 09-11-2005, 20:01   #3 (permalink)
Fredzo
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

newrvguy wrote:
> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is the
> shortbox, single cab 5 speed
> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
> runs fine.
> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
> Greatly appreciated.
>
> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying it
> that I am worried about.
> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a problem.
> Thinking of giving Ford a try
>
>

Buy the truck. I got my '91 Ranger XLT 2 years ago and I have the same
problem with a heavy clutch which I am going to look into this month as
it is getting hard to shift when it gets in the summer months. Otherwise
it has worked fine.
Check engine light, you can get an idea of what the problem might be by
getting a copy of the Haynes or chilton manuals. They will have a
procedure for you to follow to extract the codes without need of pricey
tools. From there you can get another good manual from Bentleys that
goes over the injection system pretty well and if you want to tackle it
you may very well be able to fix that light.

FRedzo
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Old 09-12-2005, 17:01   #4 (permalink)
Tom Levigne
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

Look, when a truck is used and with a lot of miles, its actually more
important how well it was taken care of than what make it is. Find out who
the previous owner was and find out if he knew how to take care of it. So
many people buy stuff from used car dealers and never even ask to talk to
the previous owner about how well it was or wasn't cared for. It is really
crap shoot every time they do this.







"newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is the
> shortbox, single cab 5 speed
> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
> runs fine.
> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
> Greatly appreciated.
>
> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying
> it that I am worried about.
> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a problem.
> Thinking of giving Ford a try
>



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Old 09-14-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
newrvguy
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

A mechanic told me to stay away from it.
He said the clutch is hydraulic and it sounds like it needs work. He said to
work on that clutch is a real "bitch" and you practically have to remove the
transmission to get to it.
Lots of $$$ to fix
"Tom Levigne" <toml37@excite.com> wrote in message
news:zroVe.10848$9i4.5026@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Look, when a truck is used and with a lot of miles, its actually more
> important how well it was taken care of than what make it is. Find out
> who the previous owner was and find out if he knew how to take care of
> it. So many people buy stuff from used car dealers and never even ask to
> talk to the previous owner about how well it was or wasn't cared for. It
> is really crap shoot every time they do this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
>> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is
>> the shortbox, single cab 5 speed
>> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
>> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
>> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
>> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
>> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
>> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
>> runs fine.
>> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
>> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
>> Greatly appreciated.
>>
>> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying
>> it that I am worried about.
>> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
>> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a
>> problem. Thinking of giving Ford a try
>>

>
>



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Old 09-14-2005, 12:01   #6 (permalink)
CJB
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

To replace any clutch, and also the slave cylinder in your case, requires
dropping the transmission. Whoever told you that it was hard isn't much of
a mechanic though. A shadetree mechanic with pretty basic tools can replace
the clutch and slave cylinder. Even taking the thing to a shop shouldn't
set you back more than 6 or 8 hundred bucks. Doing it yourself will make it
more like 300, maybe less.

That's assuming that there's something wrong with it to begin with. You are
buying a Ford truck, and the clutch on the Ranger is considerably stiffer
than any Japanese truck I've used.

CJB

"newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:qjYVe.487082$5V4.74035@pd7tw3no...
>A mechanic told me to stay away from it.
> He said the clutch is hydraulic and it sounds like it needs work. He said
> to work on that clutch is a real "bitch" and you practically have to
> remove the transmission to get to it.
> Lots of $$$ to fix
> "Tom Levigne" <toml37@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:zroVe.10848$9i4.5026@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> Look, when a truck is used and with a lot of miles, its actually more
>> important how well it was taken care of than what make it is. Find out
>> who the previous owner was and find out if he knew how to take care of
>> it. So many people buy stuff from used car dealers and never even ask
>> to talk to the previous owner about how well it was or wasn't cared for.
>> It is really crap shoot every time they do this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
>>> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is
>>> the shortbox, single cab 5 speed
>>> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
>>> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
>>> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
>>> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
>>> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
>>> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the truck
>>> runs fine.
>>> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
>>> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
>>> Greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of buying
>>> it that I am worried about.
>>> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
>>> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a
>>> problem. Thinking of giving Ford a try
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 09-14-2005, 20:01   #7 (permalink)
newrvguy
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

6 or 8 hundred bucks is NOT a small amount. Spending
$800 for a clutch repair on a truck you just bought for $800 is not a good
way to start.


"CJB" <colonyparkwagon@excite.nospam> wrote in message
news:CiZVe.5369$XO6.5325@trnddc03...
> To replace any clutch, and also the slave cylinder in your case, requires
> dropping the transmission. Whoever told you that it was hard isn't much
> of a mechanic though. A shadetree mechanic with pretty basic tools can
> replace the clutch and slave cylinder. Even taking the thing to a shop
> shouldn't set you back more than 6 or 8 hundred bucks. Doing it yourself
> will make it more like 300, maybe less.
>
> That's assuming that there's something wrong with it to begin with. You
> are buying a Ford truck, and the clutch on the Ranger is considerably
> stiffer than any Japanese truck I've used.
>
> CJB
>
> "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:qjYVe.487082$5V4.74035@pd7tw3no...
>>A mechanic told me to stay away from it.
>> He said the clutch is hydraulic and it sounds like it needs work. He said
>> to work on that clutch is a real "bitch" and you practically have to
>> remove the transmission to get to it.
>> Lots of $$$ to fix
>> "Tom Levigne" <toml37@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:zroVe.10848$9i4.5026@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>> Look, when a truck is used and with a lot of miles, its actually more
>>> important how well it was taken care of than what make it is. Find out
>>> who the previous owner was and find out if he knew how to take care of
>>> it. So many people buy stuff from used car dealers and never even ask
>>> to talk to the previous owner about how well it was or wasn't cared for.
>>> It is really crap shoot every time they do this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
>>>> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It is
>>>> the shortbox, single cab 5 speed
>>>> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
>>>> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
>>>> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
>>>> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
>>>> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
>>>> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the
>>>> truck runs fine.
>>>> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
>>>> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
>>>> Greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of
>>>> buying it that I am worried about.
>>>> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
>>>> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a
>>>> problem. Thinking of giving Ford a try
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 09-14-2005, 23:01   #8 (permalink)
CJB
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

I guess you have a point. However, if you're buying a truck that's worth
1500 to 2000 and you're only paying 800 bucks, then you'd still be ahead.

CJB

"newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1y4We.488254$5V4.236498@pd7tw3no...
> 6 or 8 hundred bucks is NOT a small amount. Spending
> $800 for a clutch repair on a truck you just bought for $800 is not a good
> way to start.
>
>
> "CJB" <colonyparkwagon@excite.nospam> wrote in message
> news:CiZVe.5369$XO6.5325@trnddc03...
> > To replace any clutch, and also the slave cylinder in your case,

requires
> > dropping the transmission. Whoever told you that it was hard isn't much
> > of a mechanic though. A shadetree mechanic with pretty basic tools can
> > replace the clutch and slave cylinder. Even taking the thing to a shop
> > shouldn't set you back more than 6 or 8 hundred bucks. Doing it

yourself
> > will make it more like 300, maybe less.
> >
> > That's assuming that there's something wrong with it to begin with. You
> > are buying a Ford truck, and the clutch on the Ranger is considerably
> > stiffer than any Japanese truck I've used.
> >
> > CJB
> >
> > "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> > news:qjYVe.487082$5V4.74035@pd7tw3no...
> >>A mechanic told me to stay away from it.
> >> He said the clutch is hydraulic and it sounds like it needs work. He

said
> >> to work on that clutch is a real "bitch" and you practically have to
> >> remove the transmission to get to it.
> >> Lots of $$$ to fix
> >> "Tom Levigne" <toml37@excite.com> wrote in message
> >> news:zroVe.10848$9i4.5026@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >>> Look, when a truck is used and with a lot of miles, its actually more
> >>> important how well it was taken care of than what make it is. Find

out
> >>> who the previous owner was and find out if he knew how to take care

of
> >>> it. So many people buy stuff from used car dealers and never even

ask
> >>> to talk to the previous owner about how well it was or wasn't cared

for.
> >>> It is really crap shoot every time they do this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >>> news:Po3Ve.471507$s54.106270@pd7tw2no...
> >>>> Looking at a 1989 Ford Ranger. It is $800 and has 150,000 miles. It

is
> >>>> the shortbox, single cab 5 speed
> >>>> with 2.3 L Gas engine.
> >>>> It is in decent shape, starts and runs good.
> >>>> The one thing that I did not like though was the clutch.
> >>>> It was heavy as hell and had quite the springload on it!
> >>>> Is this normal? Can it be fixed/adjusted?
> >>>> Also, the "CHECK ENGINE" light goes on and off quite a bit but the
> >>>> truck runs fine.
> >>>> If anyone has anything to offer in the way of advice or
> >>>> the recommendations of this truck please let me know.
> >>>> Greatly appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S. I know $800 is not a lot of money but it is not the price of
> >>>> buying it that I am worried about.
> >>>> It is the after-upkeep on it that is important.
> >>>> I am used to driving Toyota/Nissan?Mazda and they NEVER give me a
> >>>> problem. Thinking of giving Ford a try
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 09-16-2005, 08:01   #9 (permalink)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego
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Re: HELP. Looking at buying a 1989 Ford Ranger

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:57:17 GMT, "newrvguy" <stevefrench@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>6 or 8 hundred bucks is NOT a small amount. Spending
>$800 for a clutch repair on a truck you just bought for $800 is not a good
>way to start.


That's easily TWICE what a clutch job should run (unless you're
bolting in some hot-shit race unit and parts will run you that alone)
A stock clutch has never cost me more than $400 with my mech doing the
work.

I've replaced probably a half dozen clutches on small pickups and even
one Honda Accord (What a PITA that one was) and my out of pocket cost
was around $300 for al of 'em (including all new bearings, resurfacing
the flywheel and the clutch pilot tool)

Like was said before. A shadetree mechanic with a Clymer's manual and
1/2 a brain can do a clutch job...


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