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Old 11-28-2005, 22:01   #1 (permalink)
Gene
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Help. Strange brake problem.


I have a strange brake problem.
When I first get in the car and start down the road everything is OK. As
soon as I hit my brakes to stop, it stops OK but the brake stays on. As long
as I don't touch the brake pedal when first starting out it goes fine. It's
when I first hit the brakes that they stay on. The right front wheel gets
hot so I assume it is that break that is sticking. While it is sticking and
I'm moving and I hit the breaks it doesn't pull to the left or right.
After the car sets a few hours it releases and then I can start the car and
drive normally UNTIL I hit the breaks again, and again it puts the breaks
on. The breaks don't go on hard enough to keep me from moving the car but
when I let off the gas petal you can tell it's breaking again.
Any ideas before I start tearing it apart. And am I making any sense???
Thanks for you help.
Gene
FloridaRadio@aol.com


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Old 11-29-2005, 06:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Help. Strange brake problem.

In my case, it wasn't the normal things you'd necessarily look for that
were causing the same problem. The culprit was the brake line itself.
At some point...I think it was when the wheel bearing was going
bad...the left front brake line was heated and the rubber inside the
stainless steel braid had deteriorated. The fluid would flow near
normal to the caliper, but would be slow on the return causing the brake
to bind. What made it hard to diagnose was that there was no visible
markings on the exterior of the brakes line, nor was the flow noticeably
different to the caliper.

Gene wrote:
> I have a strange brake problem.
> When I first get in the car and start down the road everything is OK. As
> soon as I hit my brakes to stop, it stops OK but the brake stays on. As long
> as I don't touch the brake pedal when first starting out it goes fine. It's
> when I first hit the brakes that they stay on. The right front wheel gets
> hot so I assume it is that break that is sticking. While it is sticking and
> I'm moving and I hit the breaks it doesn't pull to the left or right.
> After the car sets a few hours it releases and then I can start the car and
> drive normally UNTIL I hit the breaks again, and again it puts the breaks
> on. The breaks don't go on hard enough to keep me from moving the car but
> when I let off the gas petal you can tell it's breaking again.
> Any ideas before I start tearing it apart. And am I making any sense???
> Thanks for you help.
> Gene
> FloridaRadio@aol.com
>

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Old 11-29-2005, 08:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Help. Strange brake problem.


"Gene" <FloridaRadio@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> I have a strange brake problem.
> When I first get in the car and start down the road everything is OK. As
> soon as I hit my brakes to stop, it stops OK but the brake stays on. As

long
> as I don't touch the brake pedal when first starting out it goes fine.

It's
> when I first hit the brakes that they stay on. The right front wheel gets
> hot so I assume it is that break that is sticking. While it is sticking

and
> I'm moving and I hit the breaks it doesn't pull to the left or right.
> After the car sets a few hours it releases and then I can start the car

and
> drive normally UNTIL I hit the breaks again, and again it puts the breaks
> on. The breaks don't go on hard enough to keep me from moving the car but
> when I let off the gas petal you can tell it's breaking again.
> Any ideas before I start tearing it apart. And am I making any sense???
> Thanks for you help.
> Gene
> FloridaRadio@aol.com
>
>


It could be a sticking caliper or a bad hose. Jack that corner up till the
tire clears the ground. If the wheel won't turn, open the bleeder and let
off the pressure. If the wheel will now turn, it's the hose. I suggest
replacing both sides. If one goes bad, the other probably isn't far behind.

Dave


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Old 11-29-2005, 09:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Help. Strange brake problem.

I tend to agree with Hairy. I've only worked on my own brakes but it
sounds like a sticking caliper or even a bad wheel cylinder depending
on what your vehicle has. my 2 cents

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Old 12-01-2005, 18:01   #5 (permalink)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego
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Re: Help. Strange brake problem.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:57:35 -0500, "Gene" <FloridaRadio@comcast.net>
wrote:

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>I have a strange brake problem.
>When I first get in the car and start down the road everything is OK. As
>soon as I hit my brakes to stop, it stops OK but the brake stays on. As long
>as I don't touch the brake pedal when first starting out it goes fine. It's
>when I first hit the brakes that they stay on. The right front wheel gets
>hot so I assume it is that break that is sticking. While it is sticking and
>I'm moving and I hit the breaks it doesn't pull to the left or right.
>After the car sets a few hours it releases and then I can start the car and
>drive normally UNTIL I hit the breaks again, and again it puts the breaks
>on. The breaks don't go on hard enough to keep me from moving the car but
>when I let off the gas petal you can tell it's breaking again.
>Any ideas before I start tearing it apart. And am I making any sense???
>Thanks for you help.


Stuck caliper or (more likely) a bad brake line. Had a '95 Suburban
that ate the right front pads every few thousand miles. Never pulled
or exhibited any odd behaviour. Compressing the caliper to replace
pads was always quite a chore and I finally discovered the flexible
part of that brake's plumbing was delaminating inside, effectively
creating a 1-way "valve".. Fluid could flow TO the caliper freely,
but was greatly restricted FROM the caliper.

Swapped out the line, bled the brakes and all was good (well, as far
as good can get with that POS) How old is the vehicle?? Might be a
good idea to change out the brake hoses on all 4 corners.
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Old 01-03-2006, 21:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Help. Strange brake problem.

Bad break line hose? What a dumb idea. Daaaaaaaa BUT IT WORKED ! !

Thanks guys for all your help. If it was not for you all I'd have that car
in 23,486 parts by now. Stinking hose. Whooedatat???

Thanks again.

Gene


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