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Old 10-19-2005, 20:01   #1 (permalink)
CJB
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Horrible brake dust

2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4

This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original brakes.
I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced them.

Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've never
had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.

What do you guys recommend? It's bad enough that I'm willing to replace the
pads even if they have life left in them. They're going to permanently
damage the aluminum wheels I'm afraid.

Thanks,

CJB


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Old 10-19-2005, 22:01   #2 (permalink)
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"CJB" <brown_family@cox.net> wrote in message
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> 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
>
> This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original
> brakes.
> I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced
> them.
>
> Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've
> never
> had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
>
> What do you guys recommend?


Wash the truck weekly?


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Old 10-19-2005, 22:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Horrible brake dust

and don't let them armoral the tires/rims, that will make it more sticky


"Lance LaFrinier" <llafrinier@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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>
> "CJB" <brown_family@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:zkD5f.2640$Ix3.1536@dukeread05...
> > 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
> >
> > This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original
> > brakes.
> > I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced
> > them.
> >
> > Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've
> > never
> > had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
> >
> > What do you guys recommend?

>
> Wash the truck weekly?
>
>



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Old 10-20-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
Al Bundy
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CJB wrote:
> 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
>
> This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original brakes.
> I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced them.
>
> Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've never
> had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
>
> What do you guys recommend? It's bad enough that I'm willing to replace the
> pads even if they have life left in them. They're going to permanently
> damage the aluminum wheels I'm afraid.
>
> Thanks,
>
> CJB


The brake dust on aluminum rims is common enough. You may just not be
used to dealing with it. The amound of dust correlates to brake wear.
If you have that much dust you may have more wear than you believe. You
better check those pads, especially the inside ones that probably
require wheel removal to inspect. New pads won't solve the dust
problem.

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Old 10-20-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
CJB
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Re: Horrible brake dust

"Lance LaFrinier" <llafrinier@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> "CJB" <brown_family@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:zkD5f.2640$Ix3.1536@dukeread05...
>> 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
>>
>> This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original
>> brakes.
>> I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced
>> them.
>>
>> Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've
>> never
>> had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
>>
>> What do you guys recommend?

>
> Wash the truck weekly?


If you don't know, just say so.

Yes, I wash the van at least weekly. I wax it every 6-8 weeks. I use wheel
cleaner and a wheel brush every time I wash it. However, within 100 miles,
the wheels are noticeably cruddy. If I let the things go for more than a
week, they're black. Were talking about within 300 miles I have black
wheels. This is city driving we're talking about, but we're not hard on the
brakes.

CJB


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Old 10-20-2005, 10:01   #6 (permalink)
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Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
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> CJB wrote:
>> 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
>>
>> This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original
>> brakes.
>> I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced
>> them.
>>
>> Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've
>> never
>> had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
>>
>> What do you guys recommend? It's bad enough that I'm willing to replace
>> the
>> pads even if they have life left in them. They're going to permanently
>> damage the aluminum wheels I'm afraid.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> CJB

>
> The brake dust on aluminum rims is common enough. You may just not be
> used to dealing with it. The amound of dust correlates to brake wear.
> If you have that much dust you may have more wear than you believe. You
> better check those pads, especially the inside ones that probably
> require wheel removal to inspect. New pads won't solve the dust
> problem.



Yeah, at the rate the dust is coming off the wheels, the pads are certainly
not going to last too long. I am used to aluminum wheels though, I've had
them on a Taurus, a couple Rangers, and even another E series van.

I've heard that some pads produce less dust. I know I'm always going to
have brake dust to contend with, but I'd like to get something that's less
filthy than what I have now.

CJB


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Old 10-20-2005, 10:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:14:22 GMT, "CJB"
<colonyparkwagon@excite.nospam> wrote:

<snip>
>Yeah, at the rate the dust is coming off the wheels, the pads are certainly
>not going to last too long. I am used to aluminum wheels though, I've had
>them on a Taurus, a couple Rangers, and even another E series van.
>
>I've heard that some pads produce less dust. I know I'm always going to
>have brake dust to contend with, but I'd like to get something that's less
>filthy than what I have now.


Google is your friend, here is the first hit (of 2.69M) on a "brake
dust" search w/o quotes:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/brakedust.htm

Here is the first hit (of 243K) with quotes:

http://www.car-stuff.com/brakedustshields.htm

>CJB


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Old 10-20-2005, 12:01   #8 (permalink)
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> If you don't know, just say so.
>
> Yes, I wash the van at least weekly. I wax it every 6-8 weeks. I use
> wheel cleaner and a wheel brush every time I wash it. However, within 100
> miles, the wheels are noticeably cruddy. If I let the things go for more
> than a week, they're black. Were talking about within 300 miles I have
> black wheels. This is city driving we're talking about, but we're not
> hard on the brakes.
>

If you wash the truck weekly and you drive only in the city...300 miles in a
week of city driving would be hard on the brakes.

If you don't know, and don't want to know...don't ask.


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Old 10-20-2005, 12:01   #9 (permalink)
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My wife's jeep had the same problem after installing a set of front brake
pads from Autozone. I went with the cheapest available from them to save
money and figured how different can they be? Well, let me tell you, I will
never do that again. As you have already said, it is really discouraging to
have just gotten the vehicle looking good and after a couple of short trips,
the front wheel look like you haven't washed them in months. As anybody can
tell, having clean wheels really helps the overall appearance of the
vehicle.

Anyway, the next brake job that I did, I went to a better parts distributor
(Carquest) and got their middle grade of pad. Let me tell you it made a
world of difference. Brakes are quieter, are wearing better, and most
importantly, do not produce near as much of that ugly grey dust that seems
to immediately bond to the wheels even with the proper dust shields in
place. I am still cheap by nature and just couldn't force myself to go with
the most expensive but the middle grade (Blue) satisfied my needs.

From the http://www.carquest.com/brake.htm website...
CARQUEST Friction & Hydraulics are manufactured by Brake Parts Inc., a
Division of The Affina Group, makers of Raybestos Brand Brakes and are
available in the GOLD, BLUE, and RED brands.

Hope that is more help than just telling you to wash your car.

Razor

"Advocate" <Advo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> If you don't know, just say so.
>>
>> Yes, I wash the van at least weekly. I wax it every 6-8 weeks. I use
>> wheel cleaner and a wheel brush every time I wash it. However, within
>> 100 miles, the wheels are noticeably cruddy. If I let the things go for
>> more than a week, they're black. Were talking about within 300 miles I
>> have black wheels. This is city driving we're talking about, but we're
>> not hard on the brakes.
>>

> If you wash the truck weekly and you drive only in the city...300 miles in
> a week of city driving would be hard on the brakes.
>
> If you don't know, and don't want to know...don't ask.
>



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Old 10-20-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
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"CJB" <brown_family@cox.net> wrote in message
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> 2003 E-150 Club Wagon 5.4
>
> This van, with only 20k miles, has what I believe to be the original
> brakes.
> I bought the van with less than 17k, and I certainly haven't replaced
> them.
>
> Anyway, these brakes produce a TON of dust on the front wheels. I've
> never
> had a car, truck, or van that put of half as much brake dust.
>
> What do you guys recommend? It's bad enough that I'm willing to replace
> the
> pads even if they have life left in them. They're going to permanently
> damage the aluminum wheels I'm afraid.
>
> Thanks,
>
> CJB
>


I too, have a 2003 E-150 van, cargo type with 9K miles on it. I don't have a
dust problem that seems more then normal. Also have aluminum wheels on it.
The van is normally empty so it's a bit lighter then a club wagon I suspect
and has the V6 engine. I also live in a fairly small town (10K) so traffic
is much slower and lighter as well.


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