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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #1 (permalink)
stevie
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water pump replacement

I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.

Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
mechanic.

The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the fan
blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump, pulley,
and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not have
a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to have
the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan installed,
but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.

My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade short
of removing the radiator?

1982 F100
302 V8, 136000 miles
AC, PB, PS, Auto



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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #2 (permalink)
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Re: water pump replacement

Removing the radiator is easy, and is the right way to do it, time wise.

Spdloader



"stevie" <sf@dum.org> wrote in message
news:xV6Yd.45393$BJ3.10830@fe06.lga...
>I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.
>
> Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
> mechanic.
>
> The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the
> fan
> blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump, pulley,
> and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not
> have
> a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to
> have
> the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
> install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan
> installed,
> but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.
>
> My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade short
> of removing the radiator?
>
> 1982 F100
> 302 V8, 136000 miles
> AC, PB, PS, Auto
>
>
>



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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #3 (permalink)
bobby swift
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Re: water pump replacement

Put studs in place of the bolts,put the fan on the studs and turn on the
nuts.Makes it easier to line up and saves time.Hope this helps.Bobby

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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #4 (permalink)
The OTHER Kevin in San Diego
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Re: water pump replacement

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:47:34 -0600, "stevie" <sf@dum.org> wrote:

>I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.
>
>Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
>mechanic.
>
>The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the fan
>blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump, pulley,
>and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not have
>a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to have
>the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
>install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan installed,
>but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.
>
>My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade short
>of removing the radiator?


Pulling the radiator isn't a big job, but most newer vehicles (i.e
early 90's and on) have a split shroud so you can pull the top half to
get at bolts like that.


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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #5 (permalink)
David M
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Re: water pump replacement

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:47:34 -0600, stevie rearranged some electrons to
form:

> I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.
>
> Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
> mechanic.
>
> The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the fan
> blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump, pulley,
> and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not have
> a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to have
> the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
> install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan installed,
> but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.
>
> My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade short
> of removing the radiator?
>
> 1982 F100
> 302 V8, 136000 miles
> AC, PB, PS, Auto


Removing the radiator is always a good idea when working near it...
you don't want to mangle it with a slip of a wrench. And it's pretty
easy to do (you already drained the coolant to replace the water pump)


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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #6 (permalink)
stevie
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Re: water pump replacement

thanks for all the suggestions-
i haven't fully completed the job yet (still have to tighten a few things &
add water). If, for some reason, I have problems I will use these
suggestions.
"stevie" <sf@dum.org> wrote in message
news:xV6Yd.45393$BJ3.10830@fe06.lga...
I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.

Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
mechanic.

The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the fan
blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump, pulley,
and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not have
a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to have
the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan installed,
but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.

My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade short
of removing the radiator?

1982 F100
302 V8, 136000 miles
AC, PB, PS, Auto




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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #7 (permalink)
Joe
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Re: water pump replacement

I have to disagree with everyone that posted to say removing the radiator
was easy. Most of the time, they'll have a tranny cooler inside them. In my
opinion, that just ruins all the fun. Sometimes you get the lines apart and
back together with no problems, but you can't be sure of that.

I have had the experience that the hoses were hard as heck to get to, also.

"David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.03.11.10.07.33.615308@sled351...
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:47:34 -0600, stevie rearranged some electrons to
> form:
>
>> I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.
>>
>> Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really a
>> mechanic.
>>
>> The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the
>> fan
>> blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump,
>> pulley,
>> and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not
>> have
>> a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to
>> have
>> the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
>> install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan
>> installed,
>> but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.
>>
>> My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade
>> short
>> of removing the radiator?
>>
>> 1982 F100
>> 302 V8, 136000 miles
>> AC, PB, PS, Auto

>
> Removing the radiator is always a good idea when working near it...
> you don't want to mangle it with a slip of a wrench. And it's pretty
> easy to do (you already drained the coolant to replace the water pump)
>
>
> --
> David M (dmacchiarolo)
> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
> T/S 53
> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 18 days 7:26
>



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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #8 (permalink)
Spdloader
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Re: water pump replacement

There are lots of tricks to easy removal of a radiator, like a little "heat"
on the trans fittings and they'll break loose, and having the proper tools
to do the job is a big help.

On the other hand, there is always the exception, but the exception is not
the rule.

Spdloader






"Joe" <Joe@dontspam.net> wrote in message
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>I have to disagree with everyone that posted to say removing the radiator
>was easy. Most of the time, they'll have a tranny cooler inside them. In my
>opinion, that just ruins all the fun. Sometimes you get the lines apart and
>back together with no problems, but you can't be sure of that.
>
> I have had the experience that the hoses were hard as heck to get to,
> also.
>
> "David M" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.03.11.10.07.33.615308@sled351...
>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:47:34 -0600, stevie rearranged some electrons to
>> form:
>>
>>> I recently replaced my water pump; the old one was leaking a little.
>>>
>>> Mostly, the job went OK, just taking me some time, since I'm not really
>>> a
>>> mechanic.
>>>
>>> The part that caused me to profess a few cuss words was reinstalling the
>>> fan
>>> blade. You have to line up the four bolt holes in the water pump,
>>> pulley,
>>> and the fan blade. This is not an easy task. In addition, you do not
>>> have
>>> a lot of room because of the plastic shroud-it appeared that you had to
>>> have
>>> the shroud on while attaching the blade. I couldn't see how you could
>>> install fan blade first, then shroud. I did finally get the fan
>>> installed,
>>> but it took 1-2 hours just for this one part.
>>>
>>> My question then, is there an easier way to re-attach the fan blade
>>> short
>>> of removing the radiator?
>>>
>>> 1982 F100
>>> 302 V8, 136000 miles
>>> AC, PB, PS, Auto

>>
>> Removing the radiator is always a good idea when working near it...
>> you don't want to mangle it with a slip of a wrench. And it's pretty
>> easy to do (you already drained the coolant to replace the water pump)
>>
>>
>> --
>> David M (dmacchiarolo)
>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled
>> T/S 53
>> sled351 Linux 2.4.18-14 has been up 18 days 7:26
>>

>
>



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Old 03-13-2005, 22:45   #9 (permalink)
bobby swift
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Re: water pump replacement

If it's got a 2 piece shroud on it thats the way to go.My truck has a 1
piece on it but someone cut the bottom half off.
Bobby

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Old 03-13-2005, 22:48   #10 (permalink)
Ernie Sparks
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Re: water pump replacement

C'mon guys. This is an easy one. Done it dozens of times. Remove the bolts
holding the shroud in place, move it back toward the engine as far as
possible, might require a bungee cord or two to hold it back. These fans
(with heat-activated clutch) usually have slots instead of simple mounting
holes. Start the bottom bolt a turn or so in the water pump flange, slide
one slot over this and push the pump into place over the center pin on the
water pump flange. Start the remaining bolts without tightening any of them,
which can be a little tricky, but is easily accomplished. Using an open end
wrench tighten all the water pump flange bolts and then bolt the fan shroud
in place. Works every time for me.
The stud process works also but make sure the stud will turn by hand to
remove it once you have a bolt started. Good luck


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