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Old 08-09-2005, 13:01   #1 (permalink)
Tim Dolan
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Why no replies??

With all due respect, is this a closed news group? I haven't received any
replies to a shimmy problem.
I have a motorhome on a Ford F53 chassis. I am trying to get help with a
shimmy in the Ford built chassis.
Please reply...
Tim fm CT


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Old 08-09-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why no replies??



With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first sentence.

What shimmy?
When does it occur?
Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
Does it do it at a certain speed?
Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
Does it do it when you hit bumps?

You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers, and
caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or not.

Spdloader


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Old 08-09-2005, 14:01   #3 (permalink)
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"Tim Dolan" <r.dolan@snet.net> wrote in message
news:T86Ke.181$O07.104@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> With all due respect, is this a closed news group? I haven't received any
> replies to a shimmy problem.
> I have a motorhome on a Ford F53 chassis. I am trying to get help with a
> shimmy in the Ford built chassis.
> Please reply...
> Tim fm CT
>
>


It could simply be that nobody knows the answer. Maybe some more details.

In your original post:
You titled 2002 F53 Chassis, but the first sentence says 2003.
You have a Ford F53 Chassis
You have a Ford F52 Chassis
It shakes, but not enough to cause concern.
It almost shook the unit apart. You had to slow down to 10MPH to stop the
violent shimmy.
Which is it?

No description of the "shake" or "shimmy" itself.
Is it in the front? rear? both?
Side to side? up and down?
Can it be felt in the steering or brakes?

It's like saying - "My truck makes this noise. What's the fix?"


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Old 08-09-2005, 14:01   #4 (permalink)
Tim Dolan
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Re: Why no replies??

Thanks for your reply. I sure wish you clued me in sooner...
Ok, let's see here: Oh BTW I have a 2002 Ford F53 chassis and the MH is 29'
and weighs 16,000lbs. The vehicle is a 2003 because that is the coach year.
What shimmy?---- On a highway at highway speeds, say 55 and over. If I go
over bumps, not pot holes, with a certain frequency the vehicle goes into
such a violent shimmy that I couldn't even tell you specifically what is
shaking. It feels like the freak'n wheels are going to snap off. I just hang
on to the wheel and slow down to less than 10mph to get it to stop
When does it occur?---- Only twice but it was on our last trip and it was
very frightening, like I explained above.
At other times going over choppy pavement there is a less severe shake in
the front end. It didn't concern me until the violent episode occurred and
now it does.
Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
Does it do it at a certain speed?
Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
Does it do it when you hit bumps?
I hope I answered the conditions in my first description.
BTW, before the trip I took it to the Ford Truck dealer about the not so
violent shimmy. They kept it for a day and said they tightened the ball
joints and said it road like a Cadillac.
It did seem to ride better until I hit those certain bumps and almost shook
the wheel out of my hands.
I'm sorry that I can't be more specific.
Also, the RV newsgroup seems to add steering dampers, and stabilizer bars
and new shocks.
I've come to this NG because I am still under warrantee but the dealer knew
of no service bulletins and was not able to fix it.
I'm hoping this nG can help me.
Tim fm Ct
"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
news:RH6Ke.113532$Kp2.8832485@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>
>
> With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
> anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first
> sentence.
>
> What shimmy?
> When does it occur?
> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
> Does it do it at a certain speed?
> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>
> You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers, and
> caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or not.
>
> Spdloader
>



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Old 08-09-2005, 16:01   #5 (permalink)
CJB
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Re: Why no replies??

When did it start? I think that's a key question. Has it been like this
since you bought it? Did you buy it used? If you've had it for a while and
it started more recently, when did it change? Was it a gradual change? Did
it occur after you hit a pothole, heard a pop, strained the suspension,
changed tires, or anything similar? Does it make any noises that it didn't
used to make?

CJB


"Tim Dolan" <r.dolan@snet.net> wrote in message
news:Io7Ke.185$O07.106@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> Thanks for your reply. I sure wish you clued me in sooner...
> Ok, let's see here: Oh BTW I have a 2002 Ford F53 chassis and the MH is

29'
> and weighs 16,000lbs. The vehicle is a 2003 because that is the coach

year.
> What shimmy?---- On a highway at highway speeds, say 55 and over. If I go
> over bumps, not pot holes, with a certain frequency the vehicle goes into
> such a violent shimmy that I couldn't even tell you specifically what is
> shaking. It feels like the freak'n wheels are going to snap off. I just

hang
> on to the wheel and slow down to less than 10mph to get it to stop
> When does it occur?---- Only twice but it was on our last trip and it was
> very frightening, like I explained above.
> At other times going over choppy pavement there is a less severe shake in
> the front end. It didn't concern me until the violent episode occurred and
> now it does.
> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
> Does it do it at a certain speed?
> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
> I hope I answered the conditions in my first description.
> BTW, before the trip I took it to the Ford Truck dealer about the not so
> violent shimmy. They kept it for a day and said they tightened the ball
> joints and said it road like a Cadillac.
> It did seem to ride better until I hit those certain bumps and almost

shook
> the wheel out of my hands.
> I'm sorry that I can't be more specific.
> Also, the RV newsgroup seems to add steering dampers, and stabilizer bars
> and new shocks.
> I've come to this NG because I am still under warrantee but the dealer

knew
> of no service bulletins and was not able to fix it.
> I'm hoping this nG can help me.
> Tim fm Ct
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:RH6Ke.113532$Kp2.8832485@twister.southeast.rr.com...
> >
> >
> > With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
> > anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first
> > sentence.
> >
> > What shimmy?
> > When does it occur?
> > Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
> > Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
> > Does it do it at a certain speed?
> > Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
> > Does it do it when you hit bumps?
> >
> > You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers,

and
> > caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or not.
> >
> > Spdloader
> >

>
>



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Old 08-09-2005, 16:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Why no replies??

Tim,
I can think of only two things right off, and they may not be at fault, but,
in the driveline you have carrier bearings that support a looooooong
driveshaft. My dumptruck acts the same way as you describe when the carrier
bearing needs to be replaced. It once shook the A/C condenser box loose from
the firewall doing it. The other thing is maybe you have a bad u joint.

TransSurgeon is the best trans guy in this newsgroup, maybe he'll have an
idea, or at least a mathematical formula explaining why yours does what it
does.

(lol jk TransSurgeon)
Good luck,

Spdloader


"Tim Dolan" <r.dolan@snet.net> wrote in message
news:Io7Ke.185$O07.106@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
> Thanks for your reply. I sure wish you clued me in sooner...
> Ok, let's see here: Oh BTW I have a 2002 Ford F53 chassis and the MH is
> 29' and weighs 16,000lbs. The vehicle is a 2003 because that is the coach
> year.
> What shimmy?---- On a highway at highway speeds, say 55 and over. If I go
> over bumps, not pot holes, with a certain frequency the vehicle goes into
> such a violent shimmy that I couldn't even tell you specifically what is
> shaking. It feels like the freak'n wheels are going to snap off. I just
> hang on to the wheel and slow down to less than 10mph to get it to stop
> When does it occur?---- Only twice but it was on our last trip and it was
> very frightening, like I explained above.
> At other times going over choppy pavement there is a less severe shake in
> the front end. It didn't concern me until the violent episode occurred and
> now it does.
> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
> Does it do it at a certain speed?
> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
> I hope I answered the conditions in my first description.
> BTW, before the trip I took it to the Ford Truck dealer about the not so
> violent shimmy. They kept it for a day and said they tightened the ball
> joints and said it road like a Cadillac.
> It did seem to ride better until I hit those certain bumps and almost
> shook the wheel out of my hands.
> I'm sorry that I can't be more specific.
> Also, the RV newsgroup seems to add steering dampers, and stabilizer bars
> and new shocks.
> I've come to this NG because I am still under warrantee but the dealer
> knew of no service bulletins and was not able to fix it.
> I'm hoping this nG can help me.
> Tim fm Ct
> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:RH6Ke.113532$Kp2.8832485@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>
>>
>> With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
>> anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first
>> sentence.
>>
>> What shimmy?
>> When does it occur?
>> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
>> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
>> Does it do it at a certain speed?
>> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
>> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>>
>> You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers,
>> and caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or not.
>>
>> Spdloader
>>

>
>



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Old 08-09-2005, 17:01   #7 (permalink)
Al Bundy
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Re: Why no replies??

It sounds like you are getting help from the RV group, but just don't
want to take it. You might have to take matters into your own hands and
get it fixed outside of warranty.

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Old 08-09-2005, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
Frank L.
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Re: Why no replies??

I used to have a Ford van that did the exact same thing, and it turned
out the idler arm bushings were worn. That that was back in '72 and I
don't even know if trucks have idler arms anymore. But if they do, it'd
be something to check out.
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Old 08-09-2005, 22:01   #9 (permalink)
Tim Dolan
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Re: Why no replies??

CJB,
Thanks for your reply.. It always rode great on smooth roads and it
felt like a city bus when going over the concrete expansion joints etc.
It shimmied just a little but I thought it was normal for a big vehicle.
Yes, it drove this way from the beginning. It's only or second summer using
it. WE bought it new in 2003 but I was laid up and didn't use it until the
next summer. We've got about 22 thousand miles on it. (it's in kilometers so
that's not an exact conversion)
No, the violent shimmy ie shaking happened when bumps were a certain
frequency. I didn't really see the bumps. Route 4 in Nova Scotia.
I had it aligned a wheels balanced and rotated last season. and had it
checked out by the Ford dealer before the trip this season.
Hope this helps.
Tim fm Ct

"CJB" <brown_family@cox.net> wrote in message
news:hF8Ke.13266$Tr6.11627@lakeread02...
> When did it start? I think that's a key question. Has it been like this
> since you bought it? Did you buy it used? If you've had it for a while
> and
> it started more recently, when did it change? Was it a gradual change?
> Did
> it occur after you hit a pothole, heard a pop, strained the suspension,
> changed tires, or anything similar? Does it make any noises that it
> didn't
> used to make?
>
> CJB
>
>
> "Tim Dolan" <r.dolan@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:Io7Ke.185$O07.106@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>> Thanks for your reply. I sure wish you clued me in sooner...
>> Ok, let's see here: Oh BTW I have a 2002 Ford F53 chassis and the MH is

> 29'
>> and weighs 16,000lbs. The vehicle is a 2003 because that is the coach

> year.
>> What shimmy?---- On a highway at highway speeds, say 55 and over. If I go
>> over bumps, not pot holes, with a certain frequency the vehicle goes into
>> such a violent shimmy that I couldn't even tell you specifically what is
>> shaking. It feels like the freak'n wheels are going to snap off. I just

> hang
>> on to the wheel and slow down to less than 10mph to get it to stop
>> When does it occur?---- Only twice but it was on our last trip and it was
>> very frightening, like I explained above.
>> At other times going over choppy pavement there is a less severe shake in
>> the front end. It didn't concern me until the violent episode occurred
>> and
>> now it does.
>> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
>> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
>> Does it do it at a certain speed?
>> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
>> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>> I hope I answered the conditions in my first description.
>> BTW, before the trip I took it to the Ford Truck dealer about the not so
>> violent shimmy. They kept it for a day and said they tightened the ball
>> joints and said it road like a Cadillac.
>> It did seem to ride better until I hit those certain bumps and almost

> shook
>> the wheel out of my hands.
>> I'm sorry that I can't be more specific.
>> Also, the RV newsgroup seems to add steering dampers, and stabilizer bars
>> and new shocks.
>> I've come to this NG because I am still under warrantee but the dealer

> knew
>> of no service bulletins and was not able to fix it.
>> I'm hoping this nG can help me.
>> Tim fm Ct
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:RH6Ke.113532$Kp2.8832485@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
>> > anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first
>> > sentence.
>> >
>> > What shimmy?
>> > When does it occur?
>> > Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
>> > Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
>> > Does it do it at a certain speed?
>> > Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
>> > Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>> >
>> > You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers,

> and
>> > caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or not.
>> >
>> > Spdloader
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 08-09-2005, 22:01   #10 (permalink)
Tim Dolan
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Re: Why no replies??

Would this happen in only 20+ thousand miles???

"Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Tim,
> I can think of only two things right off, and they may not be at fault,
> but, in the driveline you have carrier bearings that support a looooooong
> driveshaft. My dumptruck acts the same way as you describe when the
> carrier bearing needs to be replaced. It once shook the A/C condenser box
> loose from the firewall doing it. The other thing is maybe you have a bad
> u joint.
>
> TransSurgeon is the best trans guy in this newsgroup, maybe he'll have an
> idea, or at least a mathematical formula explaining why yours does what it
> does.
>
> (lol jk TransSurgeon)
> Good luck,
>
> Spdloader
>
>
> "Tim Dolan" <r.dolan@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:Io7Ke.185$O07.106@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>> Thanks for your reply. I sure wish you clued me in sooner...
>> Ok, let's see here: Oh BTW I have a 2002 Ford F53 chassis and the MH is
>> 29' and weighs 16,000lbs. The vehicle is a 2003 because that is the coach
>> year.
>> What shimmy?---- On a highway at highway speeds, say 55 and over. If I go
>> over bumps, not pot holes, with a certain frequency the vehicle goes into
>> such a violent shimmy that I couldn't even tell you specifically what is
>> shaking. It feels like the freak'n wheels are going to snap off. I just
>> hang on to the wheel and slow down to less than 10mph to get it to stop
>> When does it occur?---- Only twice but it was on our last trip and it was
>> very frightening, like I explained above.
>> At other times going over choppy pavement there is a less severe shake in
>> the front end. It didn't concern me until the violent episode occurred
>> and now it does.
>> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
>> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
>> Does it do it at a certain speed?
>> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
>> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>> I hope I answered the conditions in my first description.
>> BTW, before the trip I took it to the Ford Truck dealer about the not so
>> violent shimmy. They kept it for a day and said they tightened the ball
>> joints and said it road like a Cadillac.
>> It did seem to ride better until I hit those certain bumps and almost
>> shook the wheel out of my hands.
>> I'm sorry that I can't be more specific.
>> Also, the RV newsgroup seems to add steering dampers, and stabilizer bars
>> and new shocks.
>> I've come to this NG because I am still under warrantee but the dealer
>> knew of no service bulletins and was not able to fix it.
>> I'm hoping this nG can help me.
>> Tim fm Ct
>> "Spdloader" <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:RH6Ke.113532$Kp2.8832485@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> With all due respect back to you, Tim, your original post didn't give
>>> anything to go on, and I for one still don't understand your first
>>> sentence.
>>>
>>> What shimmy?
>>> When does it occur?
>>> Is it in the front? Is it in the rear?
>>> Is it in the steering wheel? is it in the seat?
>>> Does it do it at a certain speed?
>>> Does it do it when you hit the brakes?
>>> Does it do it when you hit bumps?
>>>
>>> You've got to give details, then maybe someone will have some answers,
>>> and caution, there will be a few who answer you whether they know or
>>> not.
>>>
>>> Spdloader
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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