Edit tuning with E10 fuel - Ford Forums

Jabba · 09-23-2005, 01:14

Hi Simon and Chris. I was just wondering if either of you have tryed tuning a motor with E10. (Chris I know you will be soon -- My ute). I ask this because on the other forum the is a decussion about how safe it is to use, and Falcon Coupe posted this which is very interesting regarding the power gains

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Latest Street machine magazine dynos an LS2 with normal 98ron and then with the new boost 98 ethanol, results were 322rwhp on conventional 98 unleaded, and 331 with the ethanol added boost 98.
After some fine tuning to match the respective fuels they got 348hp with unleaded and 365 with boost, so aside from any possible damage from corrosion, there shoud be no power loss.

Chris My ute has only ran E10 for the last 3 months so it will be interesting to see what we can get out of it....

cogdoc · 09-26-2005, 15:35

Gee Matt make me look dumb....what the heck is E10 and what is it called at the servo???? I assume it is an ethanol mix.

Oh yeah and if the Jabster's getting Chris up here to get his ute tuned, then sign me up as well. Gotta keep up with the Jones's.

Xtreme F6 · 09-26-2005, 16:27

I didnt realise any of our fuel companies where using a 10 percent ethanol blend yet. Whos doing it?

Jabba · 09-27-2005, 02:57

A few independents have it. Up my way independent fuel supplies are supplying it. They are still serving regular fuel (91,95,98), but they are also offering 95 E10 at 2c cheaper the ULP and 98 E10 at 2c cheaper then normal 95 PULP.

The name is different all round Aust. up here it called Boost 95 or 98 or E95, E98

Greg, Yes E10 is a 10% ethanol blend. when I started using it, it fixed my miss problem that I was having at the dyno day. First tank mad the miss more noticeable the second tank she was running like a charm.

I think Major are also offering it also

PEP71 · 09-27-2005, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Xtreme F6

I didnt realise any of our fuel companies where using a 10 percent ethanol blend yet. Whos doing it?

Caltex supply it at all there servos up here (Cairns), it's just called E10. It gets pushed fairly hard here as an alternative because it helps out the local sugar industry.

Xtreme F6 · 09-27-2005, 17:04

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Originally Posted by PEP71

Caltex supply it at all there servos up here (Cairns), it's just called E10. It gets pushed fairly hard here as an alternative because it helps out the local sugar industry.

we have none of there hear in W.A... mmmmm as usual we are the last to get anything

flappist · 09-27-2005, 17:06

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Originally Posted by PEP71

Caltex supply it at all there servos up here (Cairns), it's just called E10. It gets pushed fairly hard here as an alternative because it helps out the local sugar industry.

It also seems to help the motor mechanic and spare parts industries....

bossxr8 · 09-27-2005, 23:43

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Originally Posted by flappist

It also seems to help the motor mechanic and spare parts industries....

Fuel pump manufacturers will soon be announcing record sales of replacement pumps.
Ethanol is a known corrosive and can be very bad for your fuel system. Be very wary of it as its yet to be proven that it is safe for your car. Who cares if you save a fuel cents per litre if it costs you a fortune in repairs later down the track.

Jabba · 09-28-2005, 00:13

I just want to ask Flappist and BossXR8 what are the other ingredients that makes ULP, and are they or are they not a corrosive. Also what is benzene and why is it banned in some European countries.

flappist · 09-28-2005, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Jabba

I just want to ask Flappist and BossXR8 what are the other ingredients that makes ULP, and are they or are they not a corrosive. Also what is benzene and why is it banned in some European countries.

Well if the ULP is of the "western sydney" varity then paint thinner, and almost any other hydrocarbon that is sitting around. If it is "woolies fuel" it contains 30% distilled farts........

Why is benzine banned is some european countries, coz thay want to ban it...
Why are drugs and sex with 13 year olds legal in some european countries, coz they want to allow it.....
Why do they do this, ask them........

But what I suspect that you are snidely trying to get at is "ethanol is nice for the planet and will save whales, reverse global warming, bring on world peace and cost 20c per litre so how could it possibly be corrosive?"

Brake fluid is corrosive... spill some on your paint and see for yourself, but brake systems are designed to contain it so it is not corrosive to them.
Water is corrosive..... you know that brown stuff... but your cooling system is designed to contain water so it is not corrosive to it.
Battery acid is corrosive.... you get the idea.....

Your fuel system is designed to contain PETROL (gasoline), not brake fluid, not water, not battery acid and NOT ETHANOL......

When fuel systems are manufactured to contain ethanol then you can use it but until then.... stick with what it was designed for....

Simple really, just use logic instead of dogma and you will be ok......