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Old 04-19-2005, 06:41   #21 (permalink)
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Hi Simon, I was wondering if you could answer my question.

I was wondering, is it true that if you put a hi flow cat on a standard XR6T that the the factory set ECU cannot operate and goes into limp mode?
I am trying to work out how far its possible to go with mods on an XR6T before the factory setting in the CAPA flash tuner cannot operate? I believe that the factory setting cannot manage bigger injectors or a high flow cat on the standard setting?
From what i can gather, the only mods that can be done that will still operate sucessfully on the standard Factory set ECU would be-
Cold Air intake, High flow air filter, Removing centre muffler (or adding another exhaust system), Re Gapping the spark plugs.

Thanks for sharing your excellent knowledge base and keep up the amazing work! Xtreme is definately stamping a name in its own league with Ford Tuning.
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:02   #22 (permalink)
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Hi Simon, I was wondering if you could answer my question.

I was wondering, is it true that if you put a hi flow cat on a standard XR6T that the the factory set ECU cannot operate and goes into limp mode?
I am trying to work out how far its possible to go with mods on an XR6T before the factory setting in the CAPA flash tuner cannot operate? I believe that the factory setting cannot manage bigger injectors or a high flow cat on the standard setting?
From what i can gather, the only mods that can be done that will still operate sucessfully on the standard Factory set ECU would be-
Cold Air intake, High flow air filter, Removing centre muffler (or adding another exhaust system), Re Gapping the spark plugs.

Thanks for sharing your excellent knowledge base and keep up the amazing work! Xtreme is definately stamping a name in its own league with Ford Tuning.
Hey mate, thanks for your kind words, its reassuring

As for your question its a tuff one. We have seen so many variations in these cars that anything is possible. But mostly, i would say that i cant see how a cat would put a car into limp mode, when a car goes into limp mode its usually because of major issues.

In part what happenes when you change the way a car is designed by the manufacturer is you can put it outside what the pcm sees as normal operating conditions and it can cause problems, we are talking about pretty sophisticated pieces of gear the PCM can even detect if the car is taking to long to warm upto operating temps and think the thermostat is faulty!.

From standard the cars are set to run a lean fuel curve at part throttle and cruise areas for economy and emisions. At WOT the tend to be on the rich side, if you add hiflow cats and air intakes these can start to lean the engines out and that inturn starts to increase the power. Lean it out to much and the PCM will detect it and start changing timings ect to counteract it, Luckily with the edit we now have access to these areas and can correct it where it needs it making the cars reliable, safe in there settings and very driveable.

Becareful of what "Hiflow" cats you purchase aswell, i was quite shocked when i recenlty flowed some big name brand cats with very dissapointing results. Im holding back on releasing the results till ive dynoed the ones im interested in and then again i will just advise my fidnings so you guys can benifit and see results for yourself.

As for removing the centre muffler....There are alot of full systems out there avaliable for these cars that really arent as great as we are led to believe. In all of the systems ive seen the cats are the restriction and unless you are making a system purly for sound not performance alot of them wont really be benificial.

I would recommend always doing the cat and dump pipe on a turbo car before looking at the rest of the zorst.

It will be good for you guys with the turbo cars to follow closely at whats going on with the Stock Typhoon ive started on, so far to date its gone 279 rwkw's with stock everything accept the injectors and edit. Now before doing anything esle that car will have dump pipe and cat done, nothing else and hit the dyno again, then followed by the rest of the zorst.

Keep driving and enjoing your ride mate Hope i didnt babble to much and ive given you something to go on.

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Thanks mate, i have pm you some more info.

The Typhoon is really exciting prospect, and the testing you have started is no doubt being followed by people like myself with great interest.

I think the most exciting thing about the Typhoon testing so far is the fact that the guy who has the fastest unopened Boss car in the country is looking at getting rid of it for a Phoon!

Thanks for your help.
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Old 04-20-2005, 02:30   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks mate, i have pm you some more info.

The Typhoon is really exciting prospect, and the testing you have started is no doubt being followed by people like myself with great interest.

I think the most exciting thing about the Typhoon testing so far is the fact that the guy who has the fastest unopened Boss car in the country is looking at getting rid of it for a Phoon!

Thanks for your help.
I agree with you Danno and tomorrow he will be teaching number 44 how to sing Cant wait to see what he can do.

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I agree with you Danno and tomorrow he will be teaching number 44 how to sing Cant wait to see what he can do.

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Looking forward to it Peter, See you tomorrow!!
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For the love of god film it....just in case that magic number comes up:)

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For the love of god film it....just in case that magic number comes up:)

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It was a dead stock car mate with an XTREME edit. Lets see what he has to say about it after hes had a drive

I have to say also, that would be one of the most well looked after cars i have ever seen and its a credit to you Aussie_Geo, it is good to see someone take so much pride in there car.
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It was a dead stock car mate with an XTREME edit. Lets see what he has to say about it after hes had a drive

I have to say also, that would be one of the most well looked after cars i have ever seen and its a credit to you Aussie_Geo, it is good to see someone take so much pride in there car.
Simon,

What can I say mate you sure did teach her to sing!!!!

You have transformed this car..... from start to about 3,000 she is still her normal self, but boy oh boy push her any further and all hell brakes loose... Fan-bloody-tastic. I cant wait for me mate at work with the clubbie to have a drive of her.... he is going to spew!!!!


Seriously I am very impressed and guys.... if you own a typhoon you just got to get Simon to work on her.... really unleashes the potential....... and all this with nothing more than an edit....

Have only one problem now....... where do I stop.... I have just spent the last two hours hooning around Perth... and I want more :)

Simon your going to have to hand out Warning labels on any car you tune mate....... Highly addicitve.

Thanks for a great job.

Cant wait to start talking about a new set of injectors and maybe a cat....

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What can I say mate you sure did teach her to sing!!!!

You have transformed this car..... from start to about 3,000 she is still her normal self, but boy oh boy push her any further and all hell brakes loose... Fan-bloody-tastic. I cant wait for me mate at work with the clubbie to have a drive of her.... he is going to spew!!!!


Seriously I am very impressed and guys.... if you own a typhoon you just got to get Simon to work on her.... really unleashes the potential....... and all this with nothing more than an edit....

Have only one problem now....... where do I stop.... I have just spent the last two hours hooning around Perth... and I want more :)

Simon your going to have to hand out Warning labels on any car you tune mate....... Highly addicitve.

Thanks for a great job.

Cant wait to start talking about a new set of injectors and maybe a cat....

cheers

Peter
Peter, thanks for the opportunity to show you the potential of that lovely coloured car mate Just dont send home to many V8 owners with there tails between there legs mate well unless they are holden v8's then send home as many as you like! Keep that car looking as good as that mate and ppl will thinks its still brand new well done.
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Ok here's my question, i ultimately want anywhere between 240 to 250 GENIUNE rwkw's, is the stock auto up to the task with usuall every day driving + the odd thrashing?
Because with that power figure i want reliable along side with it.

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I wouldnt take the chance on it coz if it lets go its gonna be an expensive fix
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