On 13 Dec 2005 14:21:55 -0800, "Wildcat" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>I must start by saying that I am ready to jump back into the land of
>Volvo after selling my aged war horse 1990 740 this past winter.
>Driving a Saturn SL2 for the past year has just not been cutting it!
>I am considering purchasing a 1995 960 wagon from a private seller but
>I have a couple of questions for the group.
>Car is in "fair" shape. Body is straight but has three broken lamp
Lamp lenses are expensive and at least here in the Northeast US
extremely difficult to find used--thus one must go to the dealer.
On a 240 wagon the rear lenses (entire set) are $137 per side (left
Interior is basically bad. Drivers leather seat is ripped
>pretty badly down the left side
Seat recovering even in leather is not a big deal or hugely expensive.
In my area it would run about $125 per seat.
and the power seat controls for the
>drivers side have come unattached from the seat.
Seat controls are not a big deal if you can do it yourself.
Leather trim around
>drivers side window is crumpled for lack of a better term.
A good upholstery shop can probably take care of that cheap or you
can do it yourself with some spray adhesive.
>also will not go back.
>Rail problem possibly?
Possible all that is needed is cleaning and lubricating the rails.
Drivers door handle is loose.
If you have some patience the door handle issue will not be a big deal
or expensive--IF you can do the work yourself.
Rest of the
>interior is quite stained with worn leather.
You could clean that and re-dye it yourself for about $25 and some
>What kind of cost would I be looking at to replace the drivers seat
>with another Volvo leather power seat or is reupholstering an option?
Reupholstering is likely your best option.
>Anyone else had the problem with the seat not going back?
Yes..I've seen this on quite a few cars and not just Volvos. Usual
reason is tons of crud and spilled soft drinks and fast food--plus a
lack of periodic lubrication.
>serious issue that I see is that the check engine light is on.
That could get expensive. Best case scenario is something like a bad
oxygen sensor (about $150 plus labor.) Or is could be a bad catalytic
converter ($200 or so plus labor). Or...it could be a bad MAF (Mass
Air Flow Meter...but also often called the Mass Air Meter etc. These
run anywhere from $240 to $525 depending on the one you need.
What I can't recall now is whether or not your vehicle year used OBD
I...or OBD II.
If it's OBD I you are in good luck kas there is an on board diagnostic
module you can have a look at yourself to determine the check engine
light issue. If it's OBD II you'll have to pay for a scan (generally
about $70 here even at an independent shop.)
What I do recall is that early 1995 940's had OBD I and then by March
of that year had OBD II.
>the owner if he had the car in for service recently but he is simply
>selling it for his college daughter and did not know what had been
>previously done to the car.
>Other issues that I saw were that the rear wiper washer does not appear
>to work as well as a couple of other minor items.
The rear wiper issue is a VERY common problem on older volvo wagons
and I would nearly bet my next paycheck on what is causing the
It's a water infiltration issue and the wiper "transmission" which
looks a bit like a pantograph has frozen up. FORGET about trying to
repair that transmission. I did and burned up a new motor. I thought I
really had freed up the old transmission but not enough.
A new wiper transmission (for a '93 240) was $110.11 at my local
dealer here iin Upstate NY and the motor assembly is about $237.
That said, I found a "bare" motor without bracket for about $78 at
Good folks with fast shipping and excellent customer service.
>Another thing is that I could swear that all 940/960 wagons had heated
>seats and outside thermometer displays. This car appears to not have
>either. I also did not see any visible cupholders. Were they standard
>on this model.
Cupholders? That I don't know...but it's possible it did not come with
them. Understand that in many countries outside the US drivers are
stunned that people would eat or drink in their cars while driving--so
cupholders are not an issue for them.
I have no idea if these came standard with heated seats but do know
they were available in 1993. Look for seat heater switches. On a 240
they are below each side of the parking brake assembly, but as I
recall in a different location on the 940/960
>Bottom line, the guy is asking 2100.00 USD and he told me that he has
>taken all of the repair costs into consideration when pricing the car.
>I got him to give me a bottom line price of 1800.00 but with the shape
>the car is in I still dont know if this is a deal or not.
From what you have described, the car does not sound like a deal to
me even at $1800. I realize that NADA and KBB prices are higher--and
NADA is the ONLY resource banks will use here in the US when making a
loan....and while KBB might say private party value is in the range of
$3,000 that is for a car in "fair" condition.
The one you are looking at as you have described it appears to be in
"poor" condition and KBB does not even put a value on cars like that.
Let's assume it has 150,000 miles on the odometer--which would be
typical for any car of that age in the US.
For a Volvo check to see if a myriad of work and services have been
done. When was the timing belt last replaced (should be every 50K.)
And brakes and calipers and rotors? At 150 K or so one can expect to
replace calipers and to also do rotors and pads--especially on the
Amd what about suspension bushings, ball joints etc?
And starter and alternator?
If you could let us know the actual model of 940 wagon and current
mileage (plus your zipcode) I'm sure I and others here can help you
come up with a better idea on value.
>I am planning on taking the car up to my old Volvo mechanic this
>weekend and have him thoroughly inspect it but I still would like your
>opinions on some of my concerns as this group was very helpful to me in
>my 740 days.
I feel taking it to that guy is a great idea.
NEVER buy with your heart.
I bought a 93 240 wagon for $500 last January and knew it needed some
work but knew volvos. I now have a bit over $2000 invested and am
facing spending about $200 more for new front calipers and rotors in
the next few weeks but still think it was a great buy.
Since I bought it I have replaced the waterpump and timing belt,
alternator, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, rear rotors and pads,
alternator, battery, tires, heater/ac blower motor, ball joints, and a
lot of little stuff. Serviced the tranny and rear end, pulled all the
dorr panels and corrected issues with the central locking system, did
a new tailgate wiring harness and more--but was able to do most of the
Here are a few pics:
OK...so I did spend another $580 recently but that was for new rims
and studded snows--and I would have bought those for ANY car I own in
this climate for the winter. I don't really include that in what I
have invested for that reason.
Bottom line is that it is a great car and runs and rides like new now
and will need only very basic inexpensive maintenance for the next
100,000 miles. For me that will be about ten years based on how many
miles I drive yearly.
I'll post some good links for 940 things later tonight if I have time.
>Thanks in advance for your help.