In article <qpvIe.223182$_o.30110@attbi_s71>, firstname.lastname@example.org
> I have several issues with my 2001 S60 2.4T. Some are minor annoyances to
> which I have learned to adapt my driving; others are to be expected,
> although perhaps not in the ways manifested; and a couple issues have
> surfaced recently that have me concerned. I would appreciate comments or
> suggestions related to any or all of these issues:
First of all, may I say that you are definitely NOT alone. We have had
very similar and painful experiences with our 2001 V70 2,4T. Most of the
issues have been sorted, and may I add with a great deal of negotiating
with several instances in Volvo organisation.
Some of the issues are still being disputed and I will not go into the
details at this point, since I'm expecting still some compensation...
> 1. Front tires rub the wheel wells near maximum turning radius...
> 2. Car "slams" into gear if accelerating too soon coming out of a turn...
Again, this one didn't concern us.
> 3. Intermittent position light failure. This vehicle seems to be especially
> hard on its bulbs...
Had to replace a few, but we wouldn't call this a problem. Not yet :)
> 4. Door locks do not always engage. This has been an intermittent problem
> with only the rear passenger side door. I first believed that maybe the
> electronic motor failed, but after manually lifting and depressing the lock
> plunger, it began again to respond to the key fob and cabin button. It has
> stopped working on several other occasions, but manipulating the plunger a
> few times will resume operation. I imagined it might be a lubrication
> issue, but the plunger seems to move freely without binding.
Like I have written here earlier, we had a software bug, which caused
all kinds of malfunctions at the rear end of the car. Doors being a real
pain in the ass. Ever since the software update, everything has been
> 5. Cruise Control intermittently disengages when set. I have become quite
> adept at turning on the cruise control and setting the speed in one fluid
> motion. One day, I set the cruise and the car began to slow down. I looked
> and saw that the cruise control was not on. Furthermore, it could not be
> turned on -- it was completely non-responsive. My first assumption was that
> the cruise control assembly on the steering wheel had simply failed.
> However, after turning the car off and restarting it, the cruise control was
> active again. Since then, this failure occurs about 20 - 30% of the time,
> but I have not been able to notice any patterns. It does, however, seem to
> happen with less frequency if I wait 3-4 second after turning the cruise
> control before setting it. What happens is that the cruise control
> indicator will illuminate when cruise control is turned on; however, as soon
> as I set the cruise speed, the indicator goes off and this sub-system is
> dead, until resetting by turning the car off. I had it in to the dealer for
> this problem, and they indicated that the computer did not log any events
> when this happens.
Had this one VERY recently. Cruise control disengages, because it is
programmed to do so, when there is another severe problem in your car.
It's a safety measure. In our car, we had to replace (sorry, but English
is not my mother tongue and thus I'm not 100% sure of all the technical
vocabulary) "what used to be a carburretor". I guess it translates
something like a "valvebox" or something like that. Cost around 660
euros in Finland.
FURTHERMORE, we had to replave an airmass detector (350 euros), since it
was giving weird feedback to the computer, thus engine running was far
from being optimal. We calculated that the car had consumed well over
1000 liters more fuel during its 4 years or only 45000 kms. Think about
that. After replacing both of these components, the consumption went
down almost 2 liters per 100 kms. If you use gallons, miles etc. please
calculate these by yourself.
Goes without saying that this was very expensive service we had about
two weeks ago. The process is still up in the air and we are still
waiting for compensation from Volvo, since these kinds of components
should last longer. At least that's our view.
> 6. Engine System Service Required indicator; rough idle; stall on restart..
> As described here, this problem appears to be directly related to the cruise
> control issue noted above, as the timing was spot on with attempting to set
> the cruise control. The situation occurred today and began as noted above:
> I turned on the cruise and set it. However, for the first time, just as the
> cruise control disengaged and failed, I immediately got the message Engine
> System Service Required. I was on the interstate at the time, and noted no
> problems with the performance of the vehicle. Engine temperature was
> nominal and no other indicators suggested problems involving oil pressure,
> voltage, etc. No problems were detected until I left the interstate and
> came to about my 4th stop on secondary roads. At that point, the engine
> started to idle very roughly and I feared it would stall. Disengaging the
> A/C allowed the idle to stabilize and I continued on to my final
> destination. When I arrived and turned off the car, I full well expected
> the problem to disappear as readily as the cruise control issue has after
> being reset. However, it did not. The car starts with the Engine System
> Service Required, it idles rough, and even with the A/C disengaged, the
> engine stalls at idle.
We had similar experiences while doing "the Ultimate Midsummer Tour in
Southern Germany" this summer. All I can say now, is that this had to do
with faulty airmass detector or "valvebox".
On top of everything else, we also experinced a broken gearbox!!!!
Believe it or not, but it had to be replaced just after mentioned 45000
kms. First the oil inside the box burned completely, but the pro staff
in Volvo Finland was able to give some first aid by washing it by oil.
It's bloody expensive and after 12 liters the bill was over 240 euros
only for the oil!
700 kms later the whole box just let go, and it obviously had to be
replaced. Here's the good part: Volvo paid the box (3400 euros) and we
paid the labour and enother set of oil - 598 euros. If it wasn't a known
problem, I would very much doubt that they would have compensated it
fully. I also do not believe in shouting and pointing firngers, but a
constructive negotiation, so I guess my tactics worked here
As you can see, there were all kinds of problems. Three major ones at
the same time, and luckily they are all sorted out now. Thanks for the
super nice and great staff at Volvo Finland, who worked overtime to fix
our car. By the way, according to them, our car was "in extremely bad
condition" when it arrived at their garage first time. That's pretty
honest and I do appreciate their comments.
All in all, I would advice you to take your car into an authorized Volvo
dealer and tell them to get to the bottom of your problems. I bet 100
bucks that you have two similar components replaced in your car.
First they may say that there's nothing wrong. Happened to us, too,
since the garage's computer didn't indicate ANY FAULTS what so ever,
when connected. Luckily there was this head of all gurus, who knew how
to use brains and he found all the faults.
Good luck and please give us posted, what happened to you. I'm dying to
learn more about these V70s/S60s etc. and ESPECIALLY yearmodels 2001!!
"Isän tärkein tehtävä on kasvattaa tyttärensä niin,
ettei hän huoli paskaa jätkää miehekseen" J.Sarasvuo