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Old 10-04-2005, 11:01   #1 (permalink)
Neil
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440 Bumper removal

Hi all, I was wondering if any one could tell me how many bolts/screws there
are holding the 440's bumper on and their locations if poss. many thanks.
Neil


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Old 10-06-2005, 10:01   #2 (permalink)
Richard Carter
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Re: 440 Bumper removal

If I remember rightly, there are two blocks attached inside the bumper, one
on each side. These blocks simply slide into brackets that are bolted onto
the car. In fact, this is quite a good design: I caught the bumper on a
wall, and rather than shattering or splitting, the bumper just slid out of
these brackets and ended up on the floor. Obviously it takes some force to
remove it.

I think that there also a few bolts on the front/rear of the car holding the
bumper in place (four?). You will need to look underneath with a torch.
Finally, before removal, you will have to carefully remove the bolts
(self-tappers) around the wheel arch and mudflaps. Make sure that the wheel
casing and mudflaps are properly free or you'll break the plastic.

Obviously most of these things will be caked in mud and road-grime, so be
prepared to hunt around and get filthy!

Hope that helps.
Richard






"Neil" <mellowman11@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I was wondering if any one could tell me how many bolts/screws
> there are holding the 440's bumper on and their locations if poss. many
> thanks. Neil
>



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Old 10-06-2005, 11:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 440 Bumper removal


"Richard Carter" <no_spam_richard@rjcarter.net> wrote in message
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> If I remember rightly, there are two blocks attached inside the bumper,
> one on each side. These blocks simply slide into brackets that are bolted
> onto the car. In fact, this is quite a good design: I caught the bumper on
> a wall, and rather than shattering or splitting, the bumper just slid out
> of these brackets and ended up on the floor. Obviously it takes some force
> to remove it.
>
> I think that there also a few bolts on the front/rear of the car holding
> the bumper in place (four?). You will need to look underneath with a
> torch. Finally, before removal, you will have to carefully remove the
> bolts (self-tappers) around the wheel arch and mudflaps. Make sure that
> the wheel casing and mudflaps are properly free or you'll break the
> plastic.
>
> Obviously most of these things will be caked in mud and road-grime, so be
> prepared to hunt around and get filthy!
>
> Hope that helps.
> Richard


Hi Richard, thanks for the info, I had a bit of an accident with a
suicidal badger a few week ago and consequently I'm missing half my bumper.
I've found a suitable replacement in the local scrap yard. The only problem
is the car is sat on the floor with no wheels on. I was hoping it would be
quite an easy job. Many thanks Neil


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Old 10-06-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 440 Bumper removal

"Neil" <mellowman11@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard, thanks for the info, I had a bit of an accident with a
>suicidal badger a few week ago and consequently I'm missing half my bumper.
>I've found a suitable replacement in the local scrap yard. The only problem
>is the car is sat on the floor with no wheels on. I was hoping it would be
>quite an easy job. Many thanks Neil
>


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Old 10-08-2005, 01:01   #5 (permalink)
Richard Carter
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Re: 440 Bumper removal

Neil,

If it's useful, I can check the locations of the screws on mine. I have a
1995 440Si. Unless the bader was really daft, I presume we're talking about
the front. It might be that the bolts are only on the back bumper so you can
just tug it off. Obviously the donor car's mudflaps are also expendable.

Will report back later.

Cheers,
Richard



"Neil" <mellowman11@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Carter" <no_spam_richard@rjcarter.net> wrote in message
> news:di3ij1$i3u$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> If I remember rightly, there are two blocks attached inside the bumper,
>> one on each side. These blocks simply slide into brackets that are bolted
>> onto the car. In fact, this is quite a good design: I caught the bumper
>> on a wall, and rather than shattering or splitting, the bumper just slid
>> out of these brackets and ended up on the floor. Obviously it takes some
>> force to remove it.
>>
>> I think that there also a few bolts on the front/rear of the car holding
>> the bumper in place (four?). You will need to look underneath with a
>> torch. Finally, before removal, you will have to carefully remove the
>> bolts (self-tappers) around the wheel arch and mudflaps. Make sure that
>> the wheel casing and mudflaps are properly free or you'll break the
>> plastic.
>>
>> Obviously most of these things will be caked in mud and road-grime, so be
>> prepared to hunt around and get filthy!
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>> Richard

>
> Hi Richard, thanks for the info, I had a bit of an accident with a
> suicidal badger a few week ago and consequently I'm missing half my
> bumper. I've found a suitable replacement in the local scrap yard. The
> only problem is the car is sat on the floor with no wheels on. I was
> hoping it would be quite an easy job. Many thanks Neil
>



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Old 10-08-2005, 04:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 440 Bumper removal

Neil,

As i said, there are two blocks that are attached to the car which the
bumper just slides onto. These are on the sides of the car just in front of
the wheel arch and are the primary support. DON'T loosen any of the screws
on these blocks or you'll rip them them off the car as you pull the bumper
off.

If you can, remove the screws around the front of the wheel arch casing that
are attached to the edge of the bumper. If not, I suspect the wheel arch
will break before the bumper does but keep an eye on these bits as you slide
the bumper out. Might be handy to take a tough stanley knife with you to the
scrapyard.

Unfortunately, there should be three vertical screws to hold the
centre-bottom of the bumper in place. These are evenly spaced (8 inches or
so apart) and are only accessible from underneath the car. Mine are missing,
but they look like they should be self tappers and only seem to be used to
stop the bumper flapping about. With a firm enough tug, you could probably
wrench them out of place. As my car proves, it's not essential to have them
so if you damage all/some of the tabs, I suspect it wouldn't matter.
Alternatively, you could easily come up with another method of re-attaching
the bumper here.

There are several interlocking plastic tabs around the front of the bumper
that keep it in place. Even if you could get underneath the car, you're
unlikely to find them all and would struggle to free them without cracking
the plastic. Don't worry too much about these.

The bumper is designed to be slid off forwards, so do as much of the above
as possible before pulling. It's easiest to have two people, one on each
side, to make sure that it comes off straight and level. It will take some
considerable force to remove it, and it won't come quickly. The main
resistance will be the innocent-looking screws on the plastic wheel arch
casing that I mentioned in para 2.

Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

Richard



"Richard Carter" <no_spam_richard@rjcarter.net> wrote in message
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> Neil,
>
> If it's useful, I can check the locations of the screws on mine. I have a
> 1995 440Si. Unless the bader was really daft, I presume we're talking
> about the front. It might be that the bolts are only on the back bumper so
> you can just tug it off. Obviously the donor car's mudflaps are also
> expendable.
>
> Will report back later.
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
>
>
> "Neil" <mellowman11@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:di3n0t$qsc$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "Richard Carter" <no_spam_richard@rjcarter.net> wrote in message
>> news:di3ij1$i3u$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> If I remember rightly, there are two blocks attached inside the bumper,
>>> one on each side. These blocks simply slide into brackets that are
>>> bolted onto the car. In fact, this is quite a good design: I caught the
>>> bumper on a wall, and rather than shattering or splitting, the bumper
>>> just slid out of these brackets and ended up on the floor. Obviously it
>>> takes some force to remove it.
>>>
>>> I think that there also a few bolts on the front/rear of the car holding
>>> the bumper in place (four?). You will need to look underneath with a
>>> torch. Finally, before removal, you will have to carefully remove the
>>> bolts (self-tappers) around the wheel arch and mudflaps. Make sure that
>>> the wheel casing and mudflaps are properly free or you'll break the
>>> plastic.
>>>
>>> Obviously most of these things will be caked in mud and road-grime, so
>>> be prepared to hunt around and get filthy!
>>>
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Richard

>>
>> Hi Richard, thanks for the info, I had a bit of an accident with a
>> suicidal badger a few week ago and consequently I'm missing half my
>> bumper. I've found a suitable replacement in the local scrap yard. The
>> only problem is the car is sat on the floor with no wheels on. I was
>> hoping it would be quite an easy job. Many thanks Neil
>>

>
>



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Old 10-09-2005, 03:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 440 Bumper removal


"Richard Carter" <no_spam_richard@rjcarter.net> wrote in message
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> Neil,
>
> As i said, there are two blocks that are attached to the car which the
> bumper just slides onto. These are on the sides of the car just in front
> of the wheel arch and are the primary support. DON'T loosen any of the
> screws on these blocks or you'll rip them them off the car as you pull the
> bumper off.
>
> If you can, remove the screws around the front of the wheel arch casing
> that are attached to the edge of the bumper. If not, I suspect the wheel
> arch will break before the bumper does but keep an eye on these bits as
> you slide the bumper out. Might be handy to take a tough stanley knife
> with you to the scrapyard.
>
> Unfortunately, there should be three vertical screws to hold the
> centre-bottom of the bumper in place. These are evenly spaced (8 inches or
> so apart) and are only accessible from underneath the car. Mine are
> missing, but they look like they should be self tappers and only seem to
> be used to stop the bumper flapping about. With a firm enough tug, you
> could probably wrench them out of place. As my car proves, it's not
> essential to have them so if you damage all/some of the tabs, I suspect it
> wouldn't matter. Alternatively, you could easily come up with another
> method of re-attaching the bumper here.
>
> There are several interlocking plastic tabs around the front of the bumper
> that keep it in place. Even if you could get underneath the car, you're
> unlikely to find them all and would struggle to free them without cracking
> the plastic. Don't worry too much about these.
>
> The bumper is designed to be slid off forwards, so do as much of the above
> as possible before pulling. It's easiest to have two people, one on each
> side, to make sure that it comes off straight and level. It will take some
> considerable force to remove it, and it won't come quickly. The main
> resistance will be the innocent-looking screws on the plastic wheel arch
> casing that I mentioned in para 2.
>
> Good luck! Let us know how you get on.
>
> Richard




Hi Richard, many thanks for making the effort of checking these things out
for me. I'll be going to the scrap yard one night this week. I'll let you
know what happens. Cheers Neil


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