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Old 12-13-2005, 08:01   #1 (permalink)
blurp
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760 Won't start!

Hi all,

I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
just wouldn't.

The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
will do.

Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
if I should buy that part.

Thanks,
blurp
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 760 Won't start!

"blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
> persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
> just wouldn't.
>
> The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
> replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
> will do.
>
> Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
> used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
> if I should buy that part.
>
> Thanks,
> blurp


I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
you through many years.

Mike


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Old 12-13-2005, 12:01   #3 (permalink)
James Sweet
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Re: 760 Won't start!

Michael Pardee wrote:
> "blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>just wouldn't.
>>
>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>will do.
>>
>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>if I should buy that part.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>blurp

>
>
> I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
> at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
> hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
> you through many years.
>
> Mike
>
>



I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!
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Old 12-13-2005, 14:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 760 Won't start!

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:28:31 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:

>Michael Pardee wrote:
>> "blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>>just wouldn't.
>>>
>>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>>will do.
>>>
>>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>>if I should buy that part.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>blurp

>>
>>
>> I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
>> at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
>> hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
>> you through many years.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>

>
>
>I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
>Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
>out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!


Well I took a chance and ordered a used starter from a wrecker ($50)
and will pick it up tomorrow. If I can get the car started tonight
I'll drive it up to the garage and park it there and then pick up the
replacement tomorrow.

One concern I have is that I can't look at the existing starter to
ensure I get the right one from the wrecker. The garage I am taking it
to told me there are two different parts for the same year, a big one
and a thin one, but I suspect they are not differentiating the NA from
the Turbo models. I was careful to specify V6 GLE NOT TURBO to the
wrecker but they may not know the difference.

Either way I've ordered the part so the dice are cast. If anyone can
point me to a link showing what the starter for this model SHOULD look
like and maybe some info on where I can find it on my car I would
appreciate it very much.

Thanks again,
blurp


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Old 12-13-2005, 14:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 760 Won't start!

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:01:31 -0500, the illustrious blurp
<admin@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:

>On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:28:31 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
><jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:
>
>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>> "blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>>>just wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>>>will do.
>>>>
>>>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>>>if I should buy that part.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>blurp
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
>>> at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
>>> hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
>>> you through many years.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
>>Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
>>out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!

>
>Well I took a chance and ordered a used starter from a wrecker ($50)
>and will pick it up tomorrow. If I can get the car started tonight
>I'll drive it up to the garage and park it there and then pick up the
>replacement tomorrow.
>
>One concern I have is that I can't look at the existing starter to
>ensure I get the right one from the wrecker. The garage I am taking it
>to told me there are two different parts for the same year, a big one
>and a thin one, but I suspect they are not differentiating the NA from
>the Turbo models. I was careful to specify V6 GLE NOT TURBO to the
>wrecker but they may not know the difference.
>
>Either way I've ordered the part so the dice are cast. If anyone can
>point me to a link showing what the starter for this model SHOULD look
>like and maybe some info on where I can find it on my car I would
>appreciate it very much.
>
>Thanks again,
>blurp
>


I think I found an image:
http://home.eol.ca/~clubshub/Bosch%20Starter.htm

Hopefully it will look like that. The only difference i could find in
reading online was that virtually all 4-cylinder models use the same
starter and the Diesel and the 6-cylinder use another.

Here goes nothing (or $150, depending on how you look at it)!

blurp
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Old 12-13-2005, 16:01   #6 (permalink)
Peter K L Milnes
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Re: 760 Won't start!

Hi Blurp. The 4 Cylinder and V6 models use a 1.5kW starter motor, diesels
(6) use a 2.5kW starter motor. The type number for petrol engines is Bosch
GF or DW, or a Hitachi motor may be used.

All the best, Peter.

700/900/90 Register Keeper,
Volvo Owners Club (UK).

"blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:egfup15vmoll2h162kgf85cs8u569prv03@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:01:31 -0500, the illustrious blurp
> <admin@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:
>
>>On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:28:31 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
>><jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:
>>
>>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>> "blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>>>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>>>>just wouldn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>>>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>>>>will do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>>>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>>>>if I should buy that part.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>blurp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to
>>>> repair
>>>> at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part
>>>> and
>>>> hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may
>>>> get
>>>> you through many years.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
>>>Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
>>>out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!

>>
>>Well I took a chance and ordered a used starter from a wrecker ($50)
>>and will pick it up tomorrow. If I can get the car started tonight
>>I'll drive it up to the garage and park it there and then pick up the
>>replacement tomorrow.
>>
>>One concern I have is that I can't look at the existing starter to
>>ensure I get the right one from the wrecker. The garage I am taking it
>>to told me there are two different parts for the same year, a big one
>>and a thin one, but I suspect they are not differentiating the NA from
>>the Turbo models. I was careful to specify V6 GLE NOT TURBO to the
>>wrecker but they may not know the difference.
>>
>>Either way I've ordered the part so the dice are cast. If anyone can
>>point me to a link showing what the starter for this model SHOULD look
>>like and maybe some info on where I can find it on my car I would
>>appreciate it very much.
>>
>>Thanks again,
>>blurp
>>

>
> I think I found an image:
> http://home.eol.ca/~clubshub/Bosch%20Starter.htm
>
> Hopefully it will look like that. The only difference i could find in
> reading online was that virtually all 4-cylinder models use the same
> starter and the Diesel and the 6-cylinder use another.
>
> Here goes nothing (or $150, depending on how you look at it)!
>
> blurp



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Old 12-14-2005, 01:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 760 Won't start!

blurp wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:28:31 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
> <jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:
>
>
>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>
>>>"blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>>>just wouldn't.
>>>>
>>>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>>>will do.
>>>>
>>>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>>>if I should buy that part.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>blurp
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
>>>at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
>>>hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
>>>you through many years.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
>>Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
>>out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!

>
>
> Well I took a chance and ordered a used starter from a wrecker ($50)
> and will pick it up tomorrow. If I can get the car started tonight
> I'll drive it up to the garage and park it there and then pick up the
> replacement tomorrow.
>
> One concern I have is that I can't look at the existing starter to
> ensure I get the right one from the wrecker. The garage I am taking it
> to told me there are two different parts for the same year, a big one
> and a thin one, but I suspect they are not differentiating the NA from
> the Turbo models. I was careful to specify V6 GLE NOT TURBO to the
> wrecker but they may not know the difference.
>
> Either way I've ordered the part so the dice are cast. If anyone can
> point me to a link showing what the starter for this model SHOULD look
> like and maybe some info on where I can find it on my car I would
> appreciate it very much.
>
> Thanks again,
> blurp
>
>



I don't know what started the V6 used, but the 4 cylinders do have two
different sized starters and both are interchangeable.
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:22:46 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
<jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:

>blurp wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:28:31 GMT, the illustrious James Sweet
>> <jamessweet@hotmail.com> favored us with the following prose:
>>
>>
>>>Michael Pardee wrote:
>>>
>>>>"blurp" <admin@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:tcotp1h2ee2mb0m25sb8v8bre6d1j0421k@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been having an intermittent starting problem which has become
>>>>>persistent. In the past it would eventually start but this morning it
>>>>>just wouldn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>The car is a 1988 760GLE V6 and I'm pretty sure the starter needs
>>>>>replacing but, since I'm looking to get rid of this car, a used one
>>>>>will do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Question: how many years of starters are interchangeable? I've found a
>>>>>used starter locally for a 1987 V6 automatic and I just need to know
>>>>>if I should buy that part.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>blurp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure, but starters of that vintage are usually pretty easy to repair
>>>>at home. The normal problems are burned contacts in the solenoid part and
>>>>hardened grease. Cleaning and lubricating, and filing the contacts, may get
>>>>you through many years.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I worked on one that I couldn't get apart, but it was a bit newer.
>>>Another I removed from the car and a chunk of heavy copper winding fell
>>>out, something tells me that one was not gonna be an easy fix!

>>
>>
>> Well I took a chance and ordered a used starter from a wrecker ($50)
>> and will pick it up tomorrow. If I can get the car started tonight
>> I'll drive it up to the garage and park it there and then pick up the
>> replacement tomorrow.
>>
>> One concern I have is that I can't look at the existing starter to
>> ensure I get the right one from the wrecker. The garage I am taking it
>> to told me there are two different parts for the same year, a big one
>> and a thin one, but I suspect they are not differentiating the NA from
>> the Turbo models. I was careful to specify V6 GLE NOT TURBO to the
>> wrecker but they may not know the difference.
>>
>> Either way I've ordered the part so the dice are cast. If anyone can
>> point me to a link showing what the starter for this model SHOULD look
>> like and maybe some info on where I can find it on my car I would
>> appreciate it very much.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> blurp
>>
>>

>
>
>I don't know what started the V6 used, but the 4 cylinders do have two
>different sized starters and both are interchangeable.


Went for the rebuild, now it starts like a dream.

Thanks all!
Blurp


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