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Old 01-03-2006, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
James B.
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91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem

Thanks to all who have posted about the shudder problem in my newly acquired
'91 740 wagon.
I have noticed that the shudder occurs in Drive and Reverse at 5000 RPM when
I have the brake depressed. If I have it in Drive and it is above 5000-no
problem. In park at about 7500-no problem. When the shudder occurs if I
shift it into Neutral then the shudder stops. Of course when it is shifted
into neutral the RPM goes to over 5000.
I did have the transmission power flushed last Friday. Put cleaner in before
and conditioner in after. But...the transmission fluid was an O'Reilly
brand..store brand generic. Would it have made any difference if I had put
in Pennzoil or Valvoline or a name brand tranny fluid?
Any comments shall be appreciated.
I'm taking the car to the import shop in the morning.
Thanks,
James B


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Old 01-03-2006, 18:01   #2 (permalink)
Steve
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem

Did you add an extra zero, Jim?


"James B." <(baileytest)@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:11rm2gt9unk0b28@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks to all who have posted about the shudder problem in my newly

acquired
> '91 740 wagon.
> I have noticed that the shudder occurs in Drive and Reverse at 5000 RPM

when
> I have the brake depressed. If I have it in Drive and it is above 5000-no
> problem. In park at about 7500-no problem. When the shudder occurs if I
> shift it into Neutral then the shudder stops. Of course when it is shifted
> into neutral the RPM goes to over 5000.
> I did have the transmission power flushed last Friday. Put cleaner in

before
> and conditioner in after. But...the transmission fluid was an O'Reilly
> brand..store brand generic. Would it have made any difference if I had put
> in Pennzoil or Valvoline or a name brand tranny fluid?
> Any comments shall be appreciated.
> I'm taking the car to the import shop in the morning.
> Thanks,
> James B
>
>



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Old 01-04-2006, 01:01   #3 (permalink)
Andrew McKenna
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem

Steve wrote:
> Did you add an extra zero, Jim?
>
>
> "James B." <(baileytest)@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:11rm2gt9unk0b28@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Thanks to all who have posted about the shudder problem in my newly

>
> acquired
>
>>'91 740 wagon.
>>I have noticed that the shudder occurs in Drive and Reverse at 5000 RPM

>
> when
>
>>I have the brake depressed. If I have it in Drive and it is above 5000-no
>>problem. In park at about 7500-no problem. When the shudder occurs if I
>>shift it into Neutral then the shudder stops. Of course when it is shifted
>>into neutral the RPM goes to over 5000.
>>I did have the transmission power flushed last Friday. Put cleaner in

>
> before
>
>>and conditioner in after. But...the transmission fluid was an O'Reilly
>>brand..store brand generic. Would it have made any difference if I had put
>>in Pennzoil or Valvoline or a name brand tranny fluid?
>>Any comments shall be appreciated.
>>I'm taking the car to the import shop in the morning.
>>Thanks,
>>James B
>>
>>

>
>
>

Sounds like you know him, but if you don't, have you considered the
possibility that he's a qualified pilot trained to keep the throttles in
the 'zone'? In which case it's the 'dropping to 5000 when in neutral'
that's the real problem here :-)

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Old 01-04-2006, 02:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem oy voy

Did you really mean 7500rpm 5000rpm if so its about to explode or internally
haemorrhage?. Please tell us your kidding .

"James B." <(baileytest)@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:11rm2gt9unk0b28@corp.supernews.com...
> Thanks to all who have posted about the shudder problem in my newly
> acquired
> '91 740 wagon.
> I have noticed that the shudder occurs in Drive and Reverse at 5000 RPM
> when
> I have the brake depressed. If I have it in Drive and it is above 5000-no
> problem. In park at about 7500-no problem. When the shudder occurs if I
> shift it into Neutral then the shudder stops. Of course when it is shifted
> into neutral the RPM goes to over 5000.
> I did have the transmission power flushed last Friday. Put cleaner in
> before
> and conditioner in after. But...the transmission fluid was an O'Reilly
> brand..store brand generic. Would it have made any difference if I had put
> in Pennzoil or Valvoline or a name brand tranny fluid?
> Any comments shall be appreciated.
> I'm taking the car to the import shop in the morning.
> Thanks,
> James B
>
>



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Old 01-04-2006, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
James B.
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem oy voy

you're right.
it's 500 RPM..sorry

James B
"John Robertson" <johnnr@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Did you really mean 7500rpm 5000rpm if so its about to explode or

internally
> haemorrhage?. Please tell us your kidding .
>
> "James B." <(baileytest)@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:11rm2gt9unk0b28@corp.supernews.com...
> > Thanks to all who have posted about the shudder problem in my newly
> > acquired
> > '91 740 wagon.
> > I have noticed that the shudder occurs in Drive and Reverse at 5000 RPM
> > when
> > I have the brake depressed. If I have it in Drive and it is above

5000-no
> > problem. In park at about 7500-no problem. When the shudder occurs if I
> > shift it into Neutral then the shudder stops. Of course when it is

shifted
> > into neutral the RPM goes to over 5000.
> > I did have the transmission power flushed last Friday. Put cleaner in
> > before
> > and conditioner in after. But...the transmission fluid was an O'Reilly
> > brand..store brand generic. Would it have made any difference if I had

put
> > in Pennzoil or Valvoline or a name brand tranny fluid?
> > Any comments shall be appreciated.
> > I'm taking the car to the import shop in the morning.
> > Thanks,
> > James B
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 01-10-2006, 07:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem oy voy

"James B." wrote:
>
> you're right.
> it's 500 RPM..sorry
>


I'd say then the problem is the idle is too low. Start by cleaning the
throttle body, idle valve and make sure that all tune up parts (plugs,
wires, cap, rotor, air filter) are OK and there are no vacuum leaks.

http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-90...tyThrottleBody

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Old 01-16-2006, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 91'740 wagon new info on shudder problem oy voy

Thanks Mike,
I have new Volvo plugs,cleaned throttle body and set idle. throttle switch
will click but not as strong a click as on previous 240.
I have not changed the wires,rotor,or cap...but will soon. cap seems a
little difficult since it is in awkward place on this Regina system.
James B.

"Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@allsttream.nett> wrote in message
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> "James B." wrote:
> >
> > you're right.
> > it's 500 RPM..sorry
> >

>
> I'd say then the problem is the idle is too low. Start by cleaning the
> throttle body, idle valve and make sure that all tune up parts (plugs,
> wires, cap, rotor, air filter) are OK and there are no vacuum leaks.
>
>

http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-90...tyThrottleBody
>
> --
> Mike F.
> Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.
>
> Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
> (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)



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