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Old 06-14-2005, 14:01   #1 (permalink)
Atif I. Chaudhry
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'96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

The rear wiper on my '96 850 wagon no longer moves.

I checked the fuse and it is fine. I thought it might be the wiper
stalk, but I can still use it to control the front wipers. If I press
the rear window wash, fluid flows, but the rear wiper doesn't move.

Does this mean the wiper motor is gone? How hard and expensive is this
to fix?

Is there any other possible cause for this?
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Old 06-14-2005, 16:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

It could be the motor that's the problem, but it's also possible that there
is a loose connection between the motor and the wiring, or a broken wire -
sometimes the wire breaks where it passes from the body to the rear door
(near the roof hinge on my V70, which is very similar to the 850)
Considering that that part of the wiring harness gets bent every time you
open and close the tailgate, it's surprising the wiring doesn't fail more
often.

So check the wiring and connections first. If they are OK, and it does turn
out to be the motor, it isn't that hard to replace, but buying a new part is
quite expensive. (I live in the UK, and ALL Volvo parts are expensive!). As
the rear wiper motor is not safety critical, I'd try to pick one up
secondhand on E-Bay first for a car that's nearly ten years old.

Hope this helps

Bill


"Atif I. Chaudhry" <foo@foo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d18ffebb009f37d9896ef@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu...
> The rear wiper on my '96 850 wagon no longer moves.
>
> I checked the fuse and it is fine. I thought it might be the wiper
> stalk, but I can still use it to control the front wipers. If I press
> the rear window wash, fluid flows, but the rear wiper doesn't move.
>
> Does this mean the wiper motor is gone? How hard and expensive is this
> to fix?
>
> Is there any other possible cause for this?



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Old 06-14-2005, 21:01   #3 (permalink)
Stephen Henning
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

"Bill" <Bill@woohoo.com> wrote:

> So check the wiring and connections first. If they are OK, and it does turn
> out to be the motor, it isn't that hard to replace, but buying a new part is
> quite expensive. (I live in the UK, and ALL Volvo parts are expensive!). As
> the rear wiper motor is not safety critical, I'd try to pick one up
> secondhand on E-Bay first for a car that's nearly ten years old.


I took a Volvo wiper motor apart one time and found the only problem was
that the gear grease had gotten on the electrical contacts. There is a
simple cover over the contacts. After removing this cover and a couple
minutes cleaning up the electrical contacts, the motor was fixed for
another hundred thousand miles.
--
Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA
Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos.
The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery.
http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
Mike F
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

"Atif I. Chaudhry" wrote:
>
> The rear wiper on my '96 850 wagon no longer moves.
>
> I checked the fuse and it is fine. I thought it might be the wiper
> stalk, but I can still use it to control the front wipers. If I press
> the rear window wash, fluid flows, but the rear wiper doesn't move.
>
> Does this mean the wiper motor is gone? How hard and expensive is this
> to fix?
>
> Is there any other possible cause for this?


Common to all Volvos are seized pivots, both front and rear. This is
really bad if the wiper is not in the parked position because the motor
will be trying to park the wiper all the time the car is on, whether the
wiper is switched on or not. If you try to move the wiper arm back and
forth a little, the seizing is obvious if you can directly compare it to
a good one.

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Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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Old 06-15-2005, 12:01   #5 (permalink)
Atif I. Chaudhry
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

Talked to the local Volvo mechanic and said that it is most likely that
the motor seized.

He claimed that it would take about 1 hour to fix and involves removing
the rear inside panel of the door. He quoted me $60 and said I could
make an appointment and wait while they do it, or I could just wait
until I am bringing it in for its next service/oil change.

Is it really bad if the rear wiper isn't in the parked position? Should
I manually force back to the park position? (It is almost there now)

Can I fix it myself and save the $60?

Thanks for all the info so far!

In article <42B01D67.22DCB583@allsttream.nett>, Mike F <"mikef2316
()"@allsttream.nett> says...
> "Atif I. Chaudhry" wrote:
> >
> > The rear wiper on my '96 850 wagon no longer moves.
> >
> > I checked the fuse and it is fine. I thought it might be the wiper
> > stalk, but I can still use it to control the front wipers. If I press
> > the rear window wash, fluid flows, but the rear wiper doesn't move.
> >
> > Does this mean the wiper motor is gone? How hard and expensive is this
> > to fix?
> >
> > Is there any other possible cause for this?

>
> Common to all Volvos are seized pivots, both front and rear. This is
> really bad if the wiper is not in the parked position because the motor
> will be trying to park the wiper all the time the car is on, whether the
> wiper is switched on or not. If you try to move the wiper arm back and
> forth a little, the seizing is obvious if you can directly compare it to
> a good one.
>
>

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Old 06-15-2005, 12:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

Same thing here with the fuel filler central locking relase mechanism.

An hour or so in the sunshine disasembling, cleaning and reassembling
and a good squirt of WD40 brought it back to life.

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Old 06-15-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

Atif I. Chaudhry <foo@foo.com> wrote:

> Is it really bad if the rear wiper isn't in the parked position? Should
> I manually force back to the park position? (It is almost there now)


You may have solved the problem. It may have stopped in a position
where it won't restart. Maybe GENTLY nudging it back and forth when it
is "on" will help it make contact and start up again. It is a long
shot, but they do have a dead spot sometimes. It could be dirt on the
contacts or a crack in the metal.
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Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA
Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos.
The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery.
http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

"Atif I. Chaudhry" wrote:
>
> Talked to the local Volvo mechanic and said that it is most likely that
> the motor seized.
>
> He claimed that it would take about 1 hour to fix and involves removing
> the rear inside panel of the door. He quoted me $60 and said I could
> make an appointment and wait while they do it, or I could just wait
> until I am bringing it in for its next service/oil change.
>
> Is it really bad if the rear wiper isn't in the parked position? Should
> I manually force back to the park position? (It is almost there now)
>
> Can I fix it myself and save the $60?
>
> Thanks for all the info so far!
>


If the rear wiper isn't in the parked position, then the motor will be
stalled, which is a good way to burn it out. So not only will you need
a new pivot, you'll need a new motor too. Some motors subject to this
seem to have no trouble after this happens, some are dead, and some quit
a couple of days later. The ones that quit shortly after a new pivot
has been installed makes for great customer relations!

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Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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Old 06-16-2005, 15:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

I turned on the rear wiper and then gave it a gentle nudge and sure
enough with a little "help" it works.

I then set it to the interval setting, helped it get back to the start
position, and ran back and turned off the rear wiper. This should leave
it in the parked position, right? To protect the motor from burning
out?


In article <42B17089.391FE97@allsttream.nett>, Mike F <"mikef2316
()"@allsttream.nett> says...
> "Atif I. Chaudhry" wrote:
> >
> > Talked to the local Volvo mechanic and said that it is most likely that
> > the motor seized.
> >
> > He claimed that it would take about 1 hour to fix and involves removing
> > the rear inside panel of the door. He quoted me $60 and said I could
> > make an appointment and wait while they do it, or I could just wait
> > until I am bringing it in for its next service/oil change.
> >
> > Is it really bad if the rear wiper isn't in the parked position? Should
> > I manually force back to the park position? (It is almost there now)
> >
> > Can I fix it myself and save the $60?
> >
> > Thanks for all the info so far!
> >

>
> If the rear wiper isn't in the parked position, then the motor will be
> stalled, which is a good way to burn it out. So not only will you need
> a new pivot, you'll need a new motor too. Some motors subject to this
> seem to have no trouble after this happens, some are dead, and some quit
> a couple of days later. The ones that quit shortly after a new pivot
> has been installed makes for great customer relations!
>
>

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Old 06-17-2005, 12:02   #10 (permalink)
Mike F
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Re: '96 850 wagon - rear wiper stuck?!

"Atif I. Chaudhry" wrote:
>
> I turned on the rear wiper and then gave it a gentle nudge and sure
> enough with a little "help" it works.
>
> I then set it to the interval setting, helped it get back to the start
> position, and ran back and turned off the rear wiper. This should leave
> it in the parked position, right? To protect the motor from burning
> out?
>


Yes, now the motor is not powered, so won't suffer any (more) damage.

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