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Old 01-10-2006, 19:01   #1 (permalink)
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fuel pump??? 760T

A while ago the 760T started to conk out whilst driving on the freeway, not
very often, not enough to worry about. Then it had a spate of conking out
when it goes around a corner,

is it the fuel pump? which one?

Thanks in advance


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Old 01-10-2006, 19:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: fuel pump??? 760T

In <D3Zwf.213270$V7.19908@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
newsman <paulspam@mailcaster.com.au> wrote:

> A while ago the 760T started to conk out whilst driving on the freeway, not
> very often, not enough to worry about. Then it had a spate of conking out
> when it goes around a corner,
>
> is it the fuel pump? which one?


Check the FPR before the fuel pumps. This is a well known failure on
740s / 760s.

AC
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Old 01-10-2006, 23:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: fuel pump??? 760T

newsman wrote:
> A while ago the 760T started to conk out whilst driving on the freeway, not
> very often, not enough to worry about. Then it had a spate of conking out
> when it goes around a corner,
>
> is it the fuel pump? which one?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>



What does the tachometer do when it stalls? Does the needle ride down
with the engine RPM or does it fall like a rock?
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Old 01-11-2006, 01:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: fuel pump??? 760T

In article <D3Zwf.213270$V7.19908@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
paulspam@mailcaster.com.au says...
> A while ago the 760T started to conk out whilst driving on the freeway, not
> very often, not enough to worry about. Then it had a spate of conking out
> when it goes around a corner,
>
> is it the fuel pump? which one?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>

When the prepump or connecting hose between the prepump and outlet tube
in the tank fail the car will stall religiously on left hand turns from
about half empty and below. Often it will show a flat spot on hard
acceleration. If the prepump has indeed filed it would be prudent to
change the main pump as well since the repeated absence of fuel from the
preump will have damaged the bearings in the main pump since they rely
solely on fuel for lubrication.

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Old 01-11-2006, 15:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: fuel pump??? 760T

I believe the tacho, just drops like a stone..


"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> newsman wrote:
>> A while ago the 760T started to conk out whilst driving on the freeway,
>> not very often, not enough to worry about. Then it had a spate of conking
>> out when it goes around a corner,
>>
>> is it the fuel pump? which one?
>>
>> Thanks in advance

>
>
> What does the tachometer do when it stalls? Does the needle ride down with
> the engine RPM or does it fall like a rock?



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Old 01-11-2006, 16:01   #6 (permalink)
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"newsman" <paulspam@mailcaster.com.au> wrote in message
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>I believe the tacho, just drops like a stone..
>

A common cause of ignition cutout (which will be the case if the tach does
drop like a stone) in that vintage is the Hall effect sensor. IIRC the part
runs a little under $200 US, but I lost the list Mike F posted so long ago
about which model/years had the sensor in the distributor and which had them
at the flywheel. The sensor can be very difficult to catch in the act, and
many are diagnosed on the basis of "changed it - no more problem" or
"changed it - still have problem." Symptoms are typically engine cutout any
time it wants for as short or long as it wants, although some fail
completely.

If the fuel pump is quitting the power will disappear somewhat smoothly, but
if the ignition is quitting it jolts off and on - assuming there is an "on"
:-)

Mike


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Old 01-11-2006, 21:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: fuel pump??? 760T

newsman wrote:
> I believe the tacho, just drops like a stone..
>
>
>


It's not a fuel problem then. My first guess would be the hall sensor in
the distributor, or depending on the year it could be the problem I had,
a crumbling wiring harness. It's also possible the ignition power stage
is failing.
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Old 01-11-2006, 21:01   #8 (permalink)
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Michael Pardee wrote:
> "newsman" <paulspam@mailcaster.com.au> wrote in message
> news:ltexf.213848$V7.212099@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>I believe the tacho, just drops like a stone..
>>

>
> A common cause of ignition cutout (which will be the case if the tach does
> drop like a stone) in that vintage is the Hall effect sensor. IIRC the part
> runs a little under $200 US,



Yikes, no you can order the hall sensor for about $45, not nearly so
painful.
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Old 01-12-2006, 08:01   #9 (permalink)
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James Sweet wrote:
>
> newsman wrote:
> > I believe the tacho, just drops like a stone..
> >
> >
> >

>
> It's not a fuel problem then. My first guess would be the hall sensor in
> the distributor, or depending on the year it could be the problem I had,
> a crumbling wiring harness. It's also possible the ignition power stage
> is failing.


Turbos had the hall sensor up to and including 1989 model year (up to
and including 1988 for non turbo).
The ignition power stage is mounted on the inner fender on an aluminum
plate just behind the left headlight.
If your car is post hall sensor, the part that replaced it, the crank
position sensor, suffers from similar problems. It's located in a
bracket on the top of the bell housing.

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Old 01-12-2006, 23:01   #10 (permalink)
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"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Michael Pardee wrote:
>> A common cause of ignition cutout (which will be the case if the tach
>> does drop like a stone) in that vintage is the Hall effect sensor. IIRC
>> the part runs a little under $200 US,

>
>
> Yikes, no you can order the hall sensor for about $45, not nearly so
> painful.


That's good to know - it puts it in the range of being "shotgunnable"
(replacement on suspicion). Where's a good source? I looked at IPD but
didn't see it.

Mike


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