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Old 07-12-2005, 14:02   #1 (permalink)
Darren
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How much is the volvo worth?

How much is this white ex-police T5 worth 1997 Dec
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW
with 196,000 miles on the clock? Not a lot I would say? He says he was
pleased the last auction sale fell through at 1,040 pounds because he
wanted more for it. Would it not be sensible to pay more money for a
lower mileage one? As repairs for 196.000 miles ex police one could be
costly I think, particularly on a volvo at this mileage. Is my
thinking correct? A non ex police red Feb 1999 T5 SE model with
141,000 went for 2,150.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...561538752&rd=1

Look at the valuation
http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/index.js...FR&mileage=196

valuation adjusted for 196,000 miles

Retail: 3,465
Private Good: 2,845
Private Average: 2,055
Private Poor: 1,255
Part Exchange: 2,305
Trade: 2,102

Those valuations seem way out.




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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

Darren (Dazza) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

> How much is this white ex-police T5 ... worth with 196,000 miles
> Would it not be sensible to pay more money for a lower mileage one?
> A non ex police red ... with 141,000 went for 2,150.


Irrespective of Ovlovs and ex-plodness, by they time you're at 140k miles,
the difference to 200k is relatively academic.

It's condition, condition, condition.

140k could be utterly shagged and worn out if not properly maintained.
200k could be fresh as a daisy.
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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #3 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

Adrian wrote:
> Darren (Dazza) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
>
>
>>How much is this white ex-police T5 ... worth with 196,000 miles
>>Would it not be sensible to pay more money for a lower mileage one?
>>A non ex police red ... with 141,000 went for 2,150.

>
>
> Irrespective of Ovlovs and ex-plodness, by they time you're at 140k miles,
> the difference to 200k is relatively academic.
>
> It's condition, condition, condition.
>
> 140k could be utterly shagged and worn out if not properly maintained.
> 200k could be fresh as a daisy.

Agreed, my father has a T5 V70 with 130k on the clock and it goes like
stink... - Look out for an oil leak under the engine bay, caused by blow
back pressure in the block, blowing out the main crankshaft to gearbox
seal. (Big problem with these)
Also look out for blue smoke under acceleration, indicating worn turbo
seals and possibly bearings.
Remember the turbo is a very special peace of kit on this car, it's
where all the power comes from, check it out carefully, they can be a
grand upwards.
The police look after there cars very well.
Expect 27mpg tops though!!!
I think a T5 for a grand is a real bargain, irrespective of a few faults
and high milage....

Once you have driven one!, they are addictive.

Andy
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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

Nik&Andy <andy@andrewn0spamdenley.com> wrote:

> Adrian wrote:
> > Darren (Dazza) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
> >
> >
> >>How much is this white ex-police T5 ... worth with 196,000 miles
> >>Would it not be sensible to pay more money for a lower mileage one?
> >>A non ex police red ... with 141,000 went for 2,150.

> >
> >
> > Irrespective of Ovlovs and ex-plodness, by they time you're at 140k miles,
> > the difference to 200k is relatively academic.
> >
> > It's condition, condition, condition.
> >
> > 140k could be utterly shagged and worn out if not properly maintained.
> > 200k could be fresh as a daisy.

> Agreed, my father has a T5 V70 with 130k on the clock and it goes like
> stink... - Look out for an oil leak under the engine bay, caused by blow
> back pressure in the block, blowing out the main crankshaft to gearbox
> seal. (Big problem with these)
> Also look out for blue smoke under acceleration, indicating worn turbo
> seals and possibly bearings.
> Remember the turbo is a very special peace of kit on this car, it's
> where all the power comes from, check it out carefully, they can be a
> grand upwards.
> The police look after there cars very well.


You think?

They get utterly ragged by the drivers - OK, they may be well
maintained, but once they've reached the end of their useful life to the
force they're normally totally ****ed.

It may be slightly different for cars, but a BikePlod I know says to
*never* touch an ex-plod bike.


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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1gzlvzy.1fazja71n4piecN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
>
> It may be slightly different for cars, but a BikePlod I know says to
> *never* touch an ex-plod bike.
>


Yeah, those Police bikes are always hooning around at max_revs+1 with race
cans on and... oh wait...


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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #6 (permalink)
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PC Paul <me@home.com> wrote:

> "SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1gzlvzy.1fazja71n4piecN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> >
> > It may be slightly different for cars, but a BikePlod I know says to
> > *never* touch an ex-plod bike.
> >

>
> Yeah, those Police bikes are always hooning around at max_revs+1 with race
> cans on and... oh wait...


I think I'll trust his opinion on this one as he rides them every day so
knows _exactly_ how shagged they are when they get shot. I can only
assume it'll be the same for cars.
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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #7 (permalink)
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SteveH wrote:
> PC Paul <me@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:1gzlvzy.1fazja71n4piecN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
>>
>>>It may be slightly different for cars, but a BikePlod I know says to
>>>*never* touch an ex-plod bike.
>>>

>>
>>Yeah, those Police bikes are always hooning around at max_revs+1 with race
>>cans on and... oh wait...

>
>
> I think I'll trust his opinion on this one as he rides them every day so
> knows _exactly_ how shagged they are when they get shot. I can only
> assume it'll be the same for cars.


With respect, he is a bike copper, not a mechanic... - Don't make
assumptions, there are good volvo's out there with 2+ million miles on
the clock.

Andy
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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #8 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

Nik&Andy <andy@andrewn0spamdenley.com> wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
> > PC Paul <me@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"SteveH" <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>news:1gzlvzy.1fazja71n4piecN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> >>
> >>>It may be slightly different for cars, but a BikePlod I know says to
> >>>*never* touch an ex-plod bike.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Yeah, those Police bikes are always hooning around at max_revs+1 with race
> >>cans on and... oh wait...

> >
> >
> > I think I'll trust his opinion on this one as he rides them every day so
> > knows _exactly_ how shagged they are when they get shot. I can only
> > assume it'll be the same for cars.

>
> With respect, he is a bike copper, not a mechanic... - Don't make
> assumptions, there are good volvo's out there with 2+ million miles on
> the clock.


He rides the bikes every day - and has been known to ride a variety of
kit, not just the marked bikes.

A Honda Pan European is probably *the* most bulletproof bike ever made,
even those are to be avoided after the plod have had them for a few
years.

Just because a privately owned Volvo has 2 million miles on it doesn't
mean a thrapped to an inch of it's life fast patrol car will make it
that far.

It's really not worth the risk. You may get lucky and find a good one,
but the odds are you'll buy an expensive shed.
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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

> With respect, he is a bike copper, not a mechanic...
> Don't make assumptions


What kind of assumptions ?
Those such as assuming a bike 'copper' knows nothing about mechanics ?


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Old 07-12-2005, 17:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: How much is the volvo worth?

Thing is repairs are going to be expensive arent they? And nobody will
want it if you try to resell it with 200k+ on it And the repairs will
soon cost as much as the car is worth. Anybody know the maintenance
costs of these kind of cars? Whats likely to go wrong at this mileage?
The turbo wont last much longer will it? How much to replace that?
Insurance is group 16 too. Volvo parts arent cheap are they? And volvo
dealer maintenance is out of the question the prices they charge.

How specialized is maintaining a volvo t5? Can any garage do it?
Independent volvo specialists dont seem very common compared to other
makes of cars (eg French cars, Saab etc)
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