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Old 09-01-2005, 06:01   #1 (permalink)
mehredod
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i have a volvo v70 5tse s reg and last night there alot of smoke coming
from the off side disc and i started to lose power.I waited for 5min and
then drove ok and after half hour it happened again.It was a smell of
burning coul you pllease advice
Thank you m ford

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Old 09-01-2005, 06:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: smoke


"mehredod" <autobits1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:0e2510e0660c91a9dadaff158ea248ee@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...
> i have a volvo v70 5tse s reg and last night there alot of smoke coming
> from the off side disc and i started to lose power.I waited for 5min and
> then drove ok and after half hour it happened again.It was a smell of
> burning coul you pllease advice
> Thank you m ford
>


Brake sticking on due to partially seized caliper or similar. Get it looked
at ASAP.

Tim..



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Old 09-01-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
Randy G.
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Re: smoke

"mehredod" <autobits1@aol.com> wrote:

>i have a volvo v70 5tse s reg and last night there alot of smoke coming
>from the off side disc and i started to lose power.I waited for 5min and
>then drove ok and after half hour it happened again.It was a smell of
>burning coul you pllease advice
>Thank you m ford


You didn't sat whether it was front or rear, but:

1) brake drag-
A) sticking pad due to debris behind pad not allowing it to return
B) bad caliper with sticking puck not returning
C) if rear wheel, sticking or loose Emergency brake shoe
2) bad wheel bearing

Whatever the actual cause, this is a sign of a very hazardous
condition that could cause damage to parts (warped rotor, broken axle,
etc.) and can easily lead to loos of control of vehicle. Do not take
this lightly. if it is more than a few hundred meters oto the service
center or you have to drive over about 10kph, have it towed for
service or looked after at your home. IMO, this car should not be
driven any further without being looked after!

In other words, get it fixed or you could freakin' die!
__ __
Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
\__/olvos
'90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
"Shelby" & "Kate"
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Old 09-01-2005, 19:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: smoke

"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
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> "mehredod" <autobits1@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>i have a volvo v70 5tse s reg and last night there alot of smoke coming
>>from the off side disc and i started to lose power.I waited for 5min and
>>then drove ok and after half hour it happened again.It was a smell of
>>burning coul you pllease advice
>>Thank you m ford

>
> You didn't sat whether it was front or rear, but:
>
> 1) brake drag-
> A) sticking pad due to debris behind pad not allowing it to return
> B) bad caliper with sticking puck not returning
> C) if rear wheel, sticking or loose Emergency brake shoe
> 2) bad wheel bearing
>
> Whatever the actual cause, this is a sign of a very hazardous
> condition that could cause damage to parts (warped rotor, broken axle,
> etc.) and can easily lead to loos of control of vehicle. Do not take
> this lightly. if it is more than a few hundred meters oto the service
> center or you have to drive over about 10kph, have it towed for
> service or looked after at your home. IMO, this car should not be
> driven any further without being looked after!
>
> In other words, get it fixed or you could freakin' die!


I agree - anything hot or smoking around a wheel is probably the only
warning you will get before something *very* bad happens. Seized brakes
could cause you to lose all control and a seized wheel bearing can cause
your wheel to fall off - both have been known to happen.

Mike


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Old 09-01-2005, 20:01   #5 (permalink)
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>I agree - anything hot or smoking around a wheel is probably the only
>warning you will get before something *very* bad happens. Seized brakes
>could cause you to lose all control and a seized wheel bearing can cause
>your wheel to fall off - both have been known to happen.
>


No kidding! On the way to work one day in the '74 Ford 4wd PU. On and
off, it seemed like it was pulling a bit, but the wind was blowing
across the road at about 25+mph so I didn't think about it.
On the way home it was pulling again and this time I was between
windrows of tall trees... Oh oh.

I was hoping to get it home, and heading along a highway at about 55
it got worse and I started to smell bad things- hot, greasy things. it
suddenly began to pull hard and I knew it was over... I pulled off the
highway on a side road and looked under the truck to see what was up.
After I blew out the flames(!) behind the RF wheel I looked and said
to myself, "I an not supposed to be able to see the brake shoes."

I wanted to back it up a bit further away from traffic. I reversed
about 4" (no exaggeration) and the right front wheel/hub assembly fell
OFF the truck! My head had been under there about 30 seconds earlier.
I will tell you that there was never a time in my life that I needed
an alcoholic beverage more badly.

As it turned out, it was a failed wheel bearing that sheared the stub
axle off that drives the wheel (front differential on 4wd). I still
have the end of that axle in the garage as a reminder. It looks melted
like solder where it broke off, but the stuff is so hard that you
can't even drill it.

A seizing, hot wheel is a sign of imminent danger. Going one step
further, posting about same on the internet is leaving evidence that
he had knowledge of a pre-existing, dangerous situation. Be very
careful!

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Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
\__/olvos
'90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
"Shelby" & "Kate"
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Old 09-01-2005, 21:01   #6 (permalink)
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"Randy G." <frcn@DESPAMMOcncnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>>I agree - anything hot or smoking around a wheel is probably the only
>>warning you will get before something *very* bad happens. Seized brakes
>>could cause you to lose all control and a seized wheel bearing can cause
>>your wheel to fall off - both have been known to happen.
>>

>
> No kidding! On the way to work one day in the '74 Ford 4wd PU. On and
> off, it seemed like it was pulling a bit, but the wind was blowing
> across the road at about 25+mph so I didn't think about it.
> On the way home it was pulling again and this time I was between
> windrows of tall trees... Oh oh.
>
> I was hoping to get it home, and heading along a highway at about 55
> it got worse and I started to smell bad things- hot, greasy things. it
> suddenly began to pull hard and I knew it was over... I pulled off the
> highway on a side road and looked under the truck to see what was up.
> After I blew out the flames(!) behind the RF wheel I looked and said
> to myself, "I an not supposed to be able to see the brake shoes."
>
> I wanted to back it up a bit further away from traffic. I reversed
> about 4" (no exaggeration) and the right front wheel/hub assembly fell
> OFF the truck! My head had been under there about 30 seconds earlier.
> I will tell you that there was never a time in my life that I needed
> an alcoholic beverage more badly.
>
> As it turned out, it was a failed wheel bearing that sheared the stub
> axle off that drives the wheel (front differential on 4wd). I still
> have the end of that axle in the garage as a reminder. It looks melted
> like solder where it broke off, but the stuff is so hard that you
> can't even drill it.
>
> A seizing, hot wheel is a sign of imminent danger. Going one step
> further, posting about same on the internet is leaving evidence that
> he had knowledge of a pre-existing, dangerous situation. Be very
> careful!
>
> __ __
> Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
> \__/olvos
> '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
> "Shelby" & "Kate"


While we're at it we should mention the *very* bad thing is also _certain_
to happen if the cause isn't fixed. There is no benign reason for a wheel to
get hot, and whatever is doing it will not fix itself. The good news is that
the cause won't be hard to find and the fix will only be a fraction of the
cost of the bad thing that would happen if you continue to drive it (and
repair will probably cost more if you have the accident anyway).

Smoke under the hood = often bad. Smoke at a wheel = always bad.

Mike


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Old 09-01-2005, 22:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote:

>
>While we're at it we should mention the *very* bad thing is also _certain_
>to happen if the cause isn't fixed. There is no benign reason for a wheel to
>get hot, and whatever is doing it will not fix itself. The good news is that
>the cause won't be hard to find and the fix will only be a fraction of the
>cost of the bad thing that would happen if you continue to drive it (and
>repair will probably cost more if you have the accident anyway).
>
>Smoke under the hood = often bad. Smoke at a wheel = always bad.
>


As I said earlier in the thread, "IMO, this car should not be
driven any further without being looked after! In other words, get it
fixed or you could freakin' die!"


Let's prove Darwin right this time...!
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Randy & \ \/ /alerie's
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'90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate
"Shelby" & "Kate"
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:05   #8 (permalink)
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"mehredod" <autobits1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> i have a volvo v70 5tse s reg and last night there alot of smoke coming
> from the off side disc and i started to lose power.I waited for 5min and
> then drove ok and after half hour it happened again.It was a smell of
> burning coul you pllease advice
> Thank you m ford
>

I've had that once, although smoke came from one wheel it was the master
cylinder - that's the one which usually wears and/or corrodes inside first.
Don't push your luck by driving it.


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