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Old 08-11-2005, 17:01   #1 (permalink)
ignatz
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steering difficulties-'88 240

Hi! just got this rust - free 240 from Indy area- got clutch done and
running OK. However, steering is difficult at about 4 places in total
rotation. Changed some fluid with Lucas magic elixir, and didnt help. I
did notice that when car is off and steering is painfully "manual", I
dont notice the "steps" in the effort. Wonder if it is the rack, then or
something in the box. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanx, bob (ignatz)

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Old 08-11-2005, 19:01   #2 (permalink)
Ken Phillips
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Re: steering difficulties-'88 240

"ignatz" <bobtheatre@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hi! just got this rust - free 240 from Indy area- got clutch done and
> running OK. However, steering is difficult at about 4 places in total
> rotation. Changed some fluid with Lucas magic elixir, and didnt help. I
> did notice that when car is off and steering is painfully "manual", I
> dont notice the "steps" in the effort. Wonder if it is the rack, then or
> something in the box. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanx, bob (ignatz)
>


I had something similar happen with the 240 that I once had, I tried all
sorts of things, including, but not limited to flushing the entire power
steering system, and changing the pump, nothing fixed it, until one fine day
I had the opportunity to notice what so far I'd overlooked; what the little
universal coupling fitted at the bottom of the steering column was doing.
One end of the coupling had seized solid somehow, I don't know how, because
I drove it regularly, anyhow, that meant that the column didn't 'go round'
the slight bend to the rack freely, I changed the coupling , and the
steering was perfect silky smooth until the car and I parted company years
later.

Best wishes, Ken Phillips - 740 owner


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Old 08-11-2005, 21:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: steering difficulties-'88 240

Hi! You mean that ujoint visible about half way down toward the steering
box? I saw it but didnt analyze it. Were you able to see the frozen part
by havimg someone turn the wheel while you looked at it? It does seem to
mess up every half turn or so. This would be a great thing if you are
correct! Thanx, bob

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Old 08-12-2005, 04:01   #4 (permalink)
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"ignatz" <bobtheatre@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hi! You mean that ujoint visible about half way down toward the steering
> box? I saw it but didnt analyze it. Were you able to see the frozen part
> by havimg someone turn the wheel while you looked at it? It does seem to
> mess up every half turn or so. This would be a great thing if you are
> correct! Thanx, bob
>

That's the one. I spotted it, because I was under the car, with the front
end jacked up, and happened to look in that direction as the steering rack
moved from the exertions of my frustration, instead if turning smoothly, the
column jerked round, while it moved very slightly from side to side.
The sensation you report is about the same as well, I hope it is that joint,
because that joint is very easy to replace, with just two little metal pins
to remove then a cotter pin affair, which you need to fully remove, and the
joint just slides of the shaft.
With an assistant you could diagnose as you describe.

Good luck
Ken Phillips


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Old 08-12-2005, 21:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: steering difficulties-'88 240

Sprayed that steering column Ujoint with PB Blaster and it freed up! Thanx
for the valuable tip! Now I will keep it lubed and see if it stays OK, as
there is no play. This car sat for a year or so needing a clutch, so wheel
was in one position all that time. bob

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Old 08-13-2005, 04:01   #6 (permalink)
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"ignatz" <bobtheatre@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Sprayed that steering column Ujoint with PB Blaster and it freed up! Thanx
> for the valuable tip! Now I will keep it lubed and see if it stays OK, as
> there is no play. This car sat for a year or so needing a clutch, so wheel
> was in one position all that time. bob


Great!
I think I have the same kind of problem on my 745 1989. Some days earlier I
heard a creaking noise when turning the wheel inside the car, which disappeared
again. Several days later on the last day of a longer trip I noticed that after
turning the steering wheel it does not anymore passively return to neutral but
sticks before but can be returned by actively turning the wheel back to neutral.
Around neutral it behaves normally. When rotating the steering wheel one can
feel a resistance come and go in both directions. The car is waiting at my small
garage mechanic for its turn, since I do not want to drive with the steering not
returning to normal. I searched on www.alter-schwede.de a german language Volvo
site. The same symptoms were explained and solved also there by lubricating the
seizing joint in the steering wheel axle before the steering gear. Seems to be a
typical problem...

Viktor


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Old 08-13-2005, 12:01   #7 (permalink)
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"viktor weisshaeupl" <roskakori@gmx.net> wrote in message
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..............
Seems to be a
> typical problem...
>

It happens on other cars with a universal joint in the column too. I had
forgotten about it happening on a ford years ago, but that joint could only
have been described as agricultural.


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Old 08-13-2005, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: -'88 240

Hi! Thanx for all help on steering difficulties. I took this car to Echeck
today - and didnt pass on NO spec. It has been occasionally missing , but I
just attributed that to old fuel since it hadnt been run in a while. Once
I looked underneath after it was running real rough and wouldnt go over
1500 RPM or so, and the exhaust was dark cherry red in front of the
catalytic. Dont know if that had anything to do with the fail, but I
found that I could turn in the mixture screw in several turns before it
affected the idle. That might have helped the running rough condition,
but not sure if it will help to lower the NO spec. Any ideas are, as
usual, appreciated! Also would like to get a tach for this car - it would
be the small one to the right of the speedo - not in the main cluster.
Thanx, bob

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Old 08-14-2005, 08:01   #9 (permalink)
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"ignatz" <bobtheatre@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hi! Thanx for all help on steering difficulties. I took this car to
> Echeck
> today - and didnt pass on NO spec. It has been occasionally missing , but
> I
> just attributed that to old fuel since it hadnt been run in a while. Once
> I looked underneath after it was running real rough and wouldnt go over
> 1500 RPM or so, and the exhaust was dark cherry red in front of the
> catalytic. Dont know if that had anything to do with the fail, but I
> found that I could turn in the mixture screw in several turns before it
> affected the idle. That might have helped the running rough condition,
> but not sure if it will help to lower the NO spec. Any ideas are, as
> usual, appreciated! Also would like to get a tach for this car - it would
> be the small one to the right of the speedo - not in the main cluster.
> Thanx, bob
>

The NO is created by high combustion temperatures, so I'm sure leaning the
idle won't help. Mike F is the man you want to hear from about this.

Mike (P)


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Old 08-14-2005, 10:02   #10 (permalink)
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"jg" <jg@nospam.com> wrote:

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>"viktor weisshaeupl" <roskakori@gmx.net> wrote in message
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>>

>.............
>Seems to be a
>> typical problem...
>>

>It happens on other cars with a universal joint in the column too. I had
>forgotten about it happening on a ford years ago, but that joint could only
>have been described as agricultural.
>


The same thing had been hapening with the 960, and I had forgotten
about them since I haven't been driving it. Red through this thread
and said Ahhh HAAA! Went out and cleaned it up and lubricated it with
a greaseless, spray lube and whaddyaknow!? Wife says it is much
smoother!



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