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Old 11-12-2005, 13:01   #1 (permalink)
ericthesalesman
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1995 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY

I've replaced the front pads and need guidence ob how to properly bleee the
lines.I've had someone pump the brakes and hold them down why I crack the
line open to release the air and I've done this at the calipers and the
master cylinder also(which does not look like a typical autos master cylinder)
..And have done that many times. Still not good and now the rear brake on the
drivers side is making a brake noise like there might be a pressure
problemthere now.I'
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Old 11-12-2005, 13:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 1995 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY

ericthesalesman wrote:
> I've replaced the front pads and need guidence ob how to properly bleee the
> lines.I've had someone pump the brakes and hold them down why I crack the
> line open to release the air and I've done this at the calipers and the
> master cylinder also(which does not look like a typical autos master cylinder)
> .And have done that many times. Still not good and now the rear brake on the
> drivers side is making a brake noise like there might be a pressure
> problemthere now.I'


Honestly, if you've got the (complete lack of) skills to be needing to
ask here for advice on bleeding brakes, you probably aren't safe to be
working on brakes. Don't just ask for advice - go and get a competant
person to check *everything* you have done and get the brakes working
properly before you have an accident and/or kill someone.

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Old 11-12-2005, 15:01   #3 (permalink)
Andrew Renshaw
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Re: 1995 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY


What I suggest you do is to get a Bleeding kit from Halfords - an expensive
one - Gunsons at 15 and then bleed each of the brakes, sometimes it takes a
little while to get all the air out. Bleed them, go for a drive and bleed
them again. I have noticed a dramatic difference with Stainless steel hoses,
new pads and discs.

Don't worry Eric we all have to learn.

Most experienced mechanics forget that once they had to learn also.

Andy

"EMB" <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ericthesalesman wrote:
>> I've replaced the front pads and need guidence ob how to properly bleee
>> the
>> lines.I've had someone pump the brakes and hold them down why I crack the
>> line open to release the air and I've done this at the calipers and the
>> master cylinder also(which does not look like a typical autos master
>> cylinder)
>> .And have done that many times. Still not good and now the rear brake on
>> the
>> drivers side is making a brake noise like there might be a pressure
>> problemthere now.I'

>
> Honestly, if you've got the (complete lack of) skills to be needing to ask
> here for advice on bleeding brakes, you probably aren't safe to be working
> on brakes. Don't just ask for advice - go and get a competant person to
> check *everything* you have done and get the brakes working properly
> before you have an accident and/or kill someone.
>
> --
> EMB



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Old 11-12-2005, 15:01   #4 (permalink)
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"EMB" <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dl5j87$p7l$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> ericthesalesman wrote:
>> I've replaced the front pads and need guidence ob how to properly bleee
>> the
>> lines.I've had someone pump the brakes and hold them down why I crack the
>> line open to release the air and I've done this at the calipers and the
>> master cylinder also(which does not look like a typical autos master
>> cylinder)
>> .And have done that many times. Still not good and now the rear brake on
>> the
>> drivers side is making a brake noise like there might be a pressure
>> problemthere now.I'

>
> Honestly, if you've got the (complete lack of) skills to be needing to ask
> here for advice on bleeding brakes, you probably aren't safe to be working
> on brakes. Don't just ask for advice - go and get a competant person to
> check *everything* you have done and get the brakes working properly
> before you have an accident and/or kill someone.
>
> --
> EMB


Thats what i like about you Antipodes, sometimes not a great deal. The
bloke's trying his best to sort his own car out & all you did was shoot him
down ffs. Try helping instead of berating the bloke.

We all are born equal i seem to remember. Skills are learend & earned, not
given out at birth.


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Old 11-12-2005, 22:01   #5 (permalink)
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Nige wrote:

>
> Thats what i like about you Antipodes, sometimes not a great deal. The
> bloke's trying his best to sort his own car out & all you did was shoot him
> down ffs. Try helping instead of berating the bloke.


You've missed my point Nige. Had he been even vaguely local I'd have
gone and helped him. But, brakes are not something to be trifled with,
and if you haven't got the skills to do the job properly and safely you
should find someone who can. You might watch/help them and learn, but
you shouldn't be doing it alone. Had the job been on something slightly
less essential (eg a clutch or head gasket) I'd have offered all the
advice I could, as my past postings here will show. Even offering
advice from a distance on a job like this isn't particularly good - do
you want responsibility for the accident that could potentially result?
I sure as hell don't and I don't think it's fair on the OP to offer
'best effort' advice on brakes when none of us have any real idea of
what the problem is (a pad change shouldn't have caused this sort of
problem).
>
> We all are born equal i seem to remember. Skills are learend & earned, not
> given out at birth.


Indeed, and I spend a lot of my life sharing my skill set with others,
both as a mechanic (which is my original trade) and in terms of the
specialised bit of IT that now provides the majority of my income.


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Old 11-13-2005, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
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>Thats what i like about you Antipodes, sometimes not a great deal. The
>bloke's trying his best to sort his own car out & all you did was shoot him
>down ffs. Try helping instead of berating the bloke.
>
>We all are born equal i seem to remember. Skills are learend & earned, not
>given out at birth.
>
>



I am with EMB on this one!

A skill (even a basic one) like this should be learnt by demonstration,
And not by the individuals interpretation of someone else's text.

Experience is not some thing that you can "google".
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Old 11-13-2005, 05:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Marc Draper" <marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I am with EMB on this one!
>
> A skill (even a basic one) like this should be learnt by demonstration,
> And not by the individuals interpretation of someone else's text.
>
> Experience is not some thing that you can "google".
> --
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erm....

http://makeashorterlink.com/?D21B5262C

;0)

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Old 11-13-2005, 05:01   #8 (permalink)
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On or around Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:43:58 +0000, Marc Draper
<marc@mdeng.demon.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>>Thats what i like about you Antipodes, sometimes not a great deal. The
>>bloke's trying his best to sort his own car out & all you did was shoot him
>>down ffs. Try helping instead of berating the bloke.
>>
>>We all are born equal i seem to remember. Skills are learend & earned, not
>>given out at birth.
>>
>>

>
>
>I am with EMB on this one!
>
>A skill (even a basic one) like this should be learnt by demonstration,
>And not by the individuals interpretation of someone else's text.


mind, you have to interpret the book of words... and sometimes that's not at
all clear.

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Old 11-14-2005, 01:01   #9 (permalink)
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In message <60udf.5476$PI4.3076@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>
"Andrew Renshaw" <andrew@preaching.co.uk> wrote:

>
> What I suggest you do is to get a Bleeding kit from Halfords - an expensive
> one - Gunsons at 15 and then bleed each of the brakes, sometimes it takes a
> little while to get all the air out. Bleed them, go for a drive and bleed
> them again. I have noticed a dramatic difference with Stainless steel hoses,
> new pads and discs.
>
> Don't worry Eric we all have to learn.
>
> Most experienced mechanics forget that once they had to learn also.
>
> Andy


Don't forget there are up to 6 bleed nipples on front calipers,
3 each side, and they have to be done in the right order.

Richard


>
> "EMB" <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dl5j87$p7l$2@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > ericthesalesman wrote:
> >> I've replaced the front pads and need guidence ob how to properly bleee
> >> the
> >> lines.I've had someone pump the brakes and hold them down why I crack the
> >> line open to release the air and I've done this at the calipers and the
> >> master cylinder also(which does not look like a typical autos master
> >> cylinder)
> >> .And have done that many times. Still not good and now the rear brake on
> >> the
> >> drivers side is making a brake noise like there might be a pressure
> >> problemthere now.I'

> >
> > Honestly, if you've got the (complete lack of) skills to be needing to ask
> > here for advice on bleeding brakes, you probably aren't safe to be working
> > on brakes. Don't just ask for advice - go and get a competant person to
> > check *everything* you have done and get the brakes working properly
> > before you have an accident and/or kill someone.
> >
> > --
> > EMB

>
>


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