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Old 04-08-2005, 16:01   #1 (permalink)
Jon
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200tdi - Is this anything to worry about?

Hi,

I have a 200tdi 90 with 148,000 miles.

I took out the K&N air filter today to clean it and found oil in the
filter casing...
With the engine ticking over the oil (vapour / mist) is visibly coming
from the breather pipe that fastens to the air filter casing.

Is this somthing to worry about (and fix) or is it to be expected on
an engine with this mileage?
What will happen if I leave it - Im thinking nothing other than
topping up with oil because most of the vapour will be sucked into the
turbo and burned??

I am assuming the only fix is to replace pistons and rings (and
possibly re-bore)?

I am fairly confident about stripping and re-building the engine but
what sort of cost would i be looking at if i have to replace pistons
and rings?

Thoughts and advice appreciated.
Jon

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Old 04-10-2005, 16:02   #2 (permalink)
Dave Reynolds
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Re: 200tdi - Is this anything to worry about?

Jon <jonathan.kelly@nospam.lstc.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b4ud5153v1l0m4t2jn0lr0q9r54g5pff9s@4ax.com>...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 200tdi 90 with 148,000 miles.
>
> I took out the K&N air filter today to clean it and found oil in the
> filter casing...
> With the engine ticking over the oil (vapour / mist) is visibly coming
> from the breather pipe that fastens to the air filter casing.
>
> Is this somthing to worry about (and fix) or is it to be expected on
> an engine with this mileage?
> What will happen if I leave it - Im thinking nothing other than
> topping up with oil because most of the vapour will be sucked into the
> turbo and burned??
>
> I am assuming the only fix is to replace pistons and rings (and
> possibly re-bore)?
>
> I am fairly confident about stripping and re-building the engine but
> what sort of cost would i be looking at if i have to replace pistons
> and rings?
>
> Thoughts and advice appreciated.
> Jon


I found this problem Jon, and to be honest I think most of it was down
to the air filter. I retro fitted a 200tdi into my (was) 2.5TD and
because of where the new Allisport intercooler sat I put a K&N type in
as a stopgap. As you probably know on the regular air filter set up
the pipe goes from the breather on the side of the block to the air
filter casing. Without this pipe the breather system doesnt work
properly.
There is pressure inherent in any engine and it may be as simple as a
blocked breather. Try removing it and cleaning it out and see how you
get on.
Vapours are ok. It's when the vehicle starts "chugging" from the oil
filler cap that there is bad news!
As long as it doesnt chuck out huge amounts of oil then you are almost
certainly OK.
Have a look round the bak of the vehicle, are there oil spots on the
back door? If not she's fairly oil tight.
I found some on mine the other day and panicked until I realised that
the steering pump was leaking! Phew!

HTH

Dave
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:01   #3 (permalink)
Jon
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Re: 200tdi - Is this anything to worry about?

Dave,

Many thanks for the reply. Good news (I hope). No excess pressure
blowing vapour from the filler cap.


I do have oil spots on the back door, but thats another (transfer box)
story!!


thanks again.
jon



On 10 Apr 2005 13:57:00 -0700, edeowner@yahoo.com (Dave Reynolds)
wrote:

>Jon <jonathan.kelly@nospam.lstc.co.uk> wrote in message news:<b4ud5153v1l0m4t2jn0lr0q9r54g5pff9s@4ax.com>...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 200tdi 90 with 148,000 miles.
>>
>> I took out the K&N air filter today to clean it and found oil in the
>> filter casing...
>> With the engine ticking over the oil (vapour / mist) is visibly coming
>> from the breather pipe that fastens to the air filter casing.
>>
>> Is this somthing to worry about (and fix) or is it to be expected on
>> an engine with this mileage?
>> What will happen if I leave it - Im thinking nothing other than
>> topping up with oil because most of the vapour will be sucked into the
>> turbo and burned??
>>
>> I am assuming the only fix is to replace pistons and rings (and
>> possibly re-bore)?
>>
>> I am fairly confident about stripping and re-building the engine but
>> what sort of cost would i be looking at if i have to replace pistons
>> and rings?
>>
>> Thoughts and advice appreciated.
>> Jon

>
>I found this problem Jon, and to be honest I think most of it was down
>to the air filter. I retro fitted a 200tdi into my (was) 2.5TD and
>because of where the new Allisport intercooler sat I put a K&N type in
>as a stopgap. As you probably know on the regular air filter set up
>the pipe goes from the breather on the side of the block to the air
>filter casing. Without this pipe the breather system doesnt work
>properly.
>There is pressure inherent in any engine and it may be as simple as a
>blocked breather. Try removing it and cleaning it out and see how you
>get on.
>Vapours are ok. It's when the vehicle starts "chugging" from the oil
>filler cap that there is bad news!
>As long as it doesnt chuck out huge amounts of oil then you are almost
>certainly OK.
>Have a look round the bak of the vehicle, are there oil spots on the
>back door? If not she's fairly oil tight.
>I found some on mine the other day and panicked until I realised that
>the steering pump was leaking! Phew!
>
>HTH
>
>Dave


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