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Old 09-07-2005, 19:01   #1 (permalink)
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Bad battery or something else?

About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it was
working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After the jump it
was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same thing happened
this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the connections on the battery
seem to be ok and the lights in the car will come on but when I try to start
it there's a clicking noise. Did I get a bad battery or is something else
going on?


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Old 09-07-2005, 20:01   #2 (permalink)
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> About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it was
> working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After the jump

it
> was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same thing happened
> this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the connections on the

battery
> seem to be ok and the lights in the car will come on but when I try to

start
> it there's a clicking noise. Did I get a bad battery or is something else
> going on?
>
>

From that information its impossible to tell!

Measure the voltage across the battery with engine running, and report back!


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Old 09-08-2005, 00:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Bad battery or something else?

so eric was, like...
> About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it
> was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After
> the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same
> thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the
> connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights in the car
> will come on but when I try to start it there's a clicking noise. Did I
> get a bad battery or is something else going on?


If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not enough juice to
energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a dead battery. Easy
fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a short time. A check
at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.

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Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


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Old 09-08-2005, 13:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Bad battery or something else?


"Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> so eric was, like...
> > About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it
> > was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After
> > the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same
> > thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the
> > connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights in the car
> > will come on but when I try to start it there's a clicking noise. Did I
> > get a bad battery or is something else going on?

>
> If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not enough juice to
> energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a dead battery.

Easy
> fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a short time. A

check
> at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.



Could also be a duff earth, allowing enough current to fire up the lights
but won't take the massive 400 odd amps required for an engine start.

TonyB


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Old 09-08-2005, 14:02   #5 (permalink)
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"TonyB" <Norfolk@soxclara.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3oa58jF4sk6eU1@individual.net...
>> so eric was, like...
>> > About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94
>> > Disco and it
>> > was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump
>> > start it. After
>> > the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't
>> > start again. Same
>> > thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it.
>> > All the
>> > connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights
>> > in the car
>> > will come on but when I try to start it there's a
>> > clicking noise. Did I
>> > get a bad battery or is something else going on?

>>
>> If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not
>> enough juice to
>> energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a
>> dead battery.

> Easy
>> fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a
>> short time. A

> check
>> at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.

>
>
> Could also be a duff earth, allowing enough current to
> fire up the lights
> but won't take the massive 400 odd amps required for an
> engine start.
>
> TonyB
>



Yep, that was a problem with my sluggish 90. Sorted out the
earth leads by cleaning etc. and starting / charging was
back to normal service.

Regards

Richard


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Old 09-08-2005, 15:01   #6 (permalink)
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"Richard" <richard.bush@talk21.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TonyB" <Norfolk@soxclara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dfq263$pms$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >
> > "Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3oa58jF4sk6eU1@individual.net...
> >> so eric was, like...
> >> > About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94
> >> > Disco and it
> >> > was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump
> >> > start it. After
> >> > the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't
> >> > start again. Same
> >> > thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it.
> >> > All the
> >> > connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights
> >> > in the car
> >> > will come on but when I try to start it there's a
> >> > clicking noise. Did I
> >> > get a bad battery or is something else going on?
> >>
> >> If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not
> >> enough juice to
> >> energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a
> >> dead battery.

> > Easy
> >> fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a
> >> short time. A

> > check
> >> at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.

> >
> >
> > Could also be a duff earth, allowing enough current to
> > fire up the lights
> > but won't take the massive 400 odd amps required for an
> > engine start.
> >
> > TonyB
> >

>
>
> Yep, that was a problem with my sluggish 90. Sorted out the
> earth leads by cleaning etc. and starting / charging was
> back to normal service.
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
>


Yes but try leaving the headlights on as you try to start it, if they don't
dim off appreciably as you try then the starter is not drawing any current,
possibly due to supply or earth connections or just a duff starter. If they
do dim then it could be any number of things, battery, battery connections
or starter still duff and taking too much current.

HTH Martin.


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Old 09-08-2005, 15:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Thursday 08 September 2005 02:16, eric(eric.2@cox.net) wrote in message
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> About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it was
> working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After the jump
> it
> was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same thing happened
> this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the connections on the
> battery seem to be ok and the lights in the car will come on but when I
> try to start
> it there's a clicking noise. Did I get a bad battery or is something else
> going on?


Are the lights bright all the time, even when the solenoid is clicking? If
so then the starter is drawing very little, if any, current.

Could just be a dirty or loose connection or maybe a duff solenoid. If the
starter whizzes the engine round normally and just occasionally you only
get a click then my money's on it being a dead solenoid.

Hmm, that reminds me. I've got to buy a new solenoid for my SIII. Now then,
where's that web address for Beamends...

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1974 SIII Land Rover - Hardtop 2.25 Petrol, Green
1954 Ford 100E Prefect - Black
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Old 09-08-2005, 15:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Bad battery or something else?

so PDannyD was, like...
>
> Hmm, that reminds me. I've got to buy a new solenoid for my SIII. Now
> then, where's that web address for Beamends...


http://www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk/

I know you knew it, but I thought I'd give the guy a plug. Had quite a few
odd bits from him recently, and service has been excellent.

No connection, ect ect.


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S2a 88" SW
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #9 (permalink)
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In message <dfq263$pms$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, TonyB
<Norfolk@soxclara.co.uk> writes
>
>"Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:3oa58jF4sk6eU1@individual.net...
>> so eric was, like...
>> > About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94 Disco and it
>> > was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump start it. After
>> > the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't start again. Same
>> > thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it. All the
>> > connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights in the car
>> > will come on but when I try to start it there's a clicking noise. Did I
>> > get a bad battery or is something else going on?

>>
>> If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not enough juice to
>> energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a dead battery.

>Easy
>> fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a short time. A

>check
>> at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.

>
>
>Could also be a duff earth, allowing enough current to fire up the lights
>but won't take the massive 400 odd amps required for an engine start.
>
>TonyB
>
>

That would be my first guess too, especially as the OP had already
changed one battery.
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Bad battery or something else?

In message <dfq89b$d0p$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, Oily
<martin@nofritterswoodendgarage.co.uk> writes
>
>"Richard" <richard.bush@talk21.com> wrote in message
>news:dfq5i7$huu$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "TonyB" <Norfolk@soxclara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:dfq263$pms$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> >
>> > "Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:3oa58jF4sk6eU1@individual.net...
>> >> so eric was, like...
>> >> > About three months ago I replaced the battery on my 94
>> >> > Disco and it
>> >> > was working fine until two weeks ago I had to jump
>> >> > start it. After
>> >> > the jump it was ok until yesterday when it wouldn't
>> >> > start again. Same
>> >> > thing happened this afternoon when I tried to start it.
>> >> > All the
>> >> > connections on the battery seem to be ok and the lights
>> >> > in the car
>> >> > will come on but when I try to start it there's a
>> >> > clicking noise. Did I
>> >> > get a bad battery or is something else going on?
>> >>
>> >> If the battery is marginal, you will get lights but not
>> >> enough juice to
>> >> energise the starter, hence the clicking. My guess is a
>> >> dead battery.
>> > Easy
>> >> fix, but I'd want to know what had killed it in such a
>> >> short time. A
>> > check
>> >> at an auto-electrician wouldn't cost much.
>> >
>> >
>> > Could also be a duff earth, allowing enough current to
>> > fire up the lights
>> > but won't take the massive 400 odd amps required for an
>> > engine start.
>> >
>> > TonyB
>> >

>>
>>
>> Yep, that was a problem with my sluggish 90. Sorted out the
>> earth leads by cleaning etc. and starting / charging was
>> back to normal service.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>

>
>Yes but try leaving the headlights on as you try to start it, if they don't
>dim off appreciably as you try then the starter is not drawing any current,
>possibly due to supply or earth connections or just a duff starter. If they
>do dim then it could be any number of things, battery, battery connections
>or starter still duff and taking too much current.
>
>HTH Martin.
>
>

Problem I had with my 90 was the crimped connector on the earth lead.
Took a while to find, and only after having removed and checked the
starter. There was just the very slightest of movement when pulled hard.
Local auto electrician said it was quite a common problem and he always
soldered the terminals on.
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