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Old 11-25-2005, 18:01   #1 (permalink)
Bob Miller
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Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

OK - dumb question to start the weekend:

Got to bleed the brake system this weekend (1990 110 with rear drums) and
I've noticed that the front calliper brake nipple is conveniently hidden
between two bolt heads (just to make it impossible to get any sort of swing
on a spanner). Is there any sort of gizmo that enables you to open and
close the nipple while still keeping the tube on it? The only other thing I
can think of is a socket and pump pliers with the tube coming out of the
hole in the back of the socket, or failing that can you put a longer nipple
on it, and if so what is the thread?
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1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17


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Old 11-26-2005, 02:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo


"Bob Miller" <bob.miller.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> OK - dumb question to start the weekend:
>
> Got to bleed the brake system this weekend (1990 110 with rear drums) and
> I've noticed that the front calliper brake nipple is conveniently hidden
> between two bolt heads (just to make it impossible to get any sort of

swing
> on a spanner). Is there any sort of gizmo that enables you to open and
> close the nipple while still keeping the tube on it? The only other thing

I
> can think of is a socket and pump pliers with the tube coming out of the
> hole in the back of the socket, or failing that can you put a longer

nipple
> on it, and if so what is the thread?
> --
> MTIA
>
> Bob Miller
> 1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
> 1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17


'Spose a ring spanner won't fit?
TonyB
>
>



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Old 11-26-2005, 04:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo


> > Got to bleed the brake system this weekend (1990 110 with rear drums)

and
> > I've noticed that the front calliper brake nipple is conveniently hidden
> > between two bolt heads (just to make it impossible to get any sort of

> swing
> > on a spanner).


>
> 'Spose a ring spanner won't fit?
> TonyB
> >


You'd probably get one on but only 12th of a turn at a time - not ideal for
opening and closing the amount that you need for bleeding, or am I being
pessimistic?
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

Bob Miller wrote:
>>> Got to bleed the brake system this weekend (1990 110 with rear drums)

> and
>>> I've noticed that the front calliper brake nipple is conveniently hidden
>>> between two bolt heads (just to make it impossible to get any sort of

>> swing
>>> on a spanner).

>
>> 'Spose a ring spanner won't fit?
>> TonyB

>
> You'd probably get one on but only 12th of a turn at a time - not ideal for
> opening and closing the amount that you need for bleeding, or am I being
> pessimistic?


I don't think you need a lot of slackening to bleed off, once you've
cracked the seal.

If you can fit them, longer bleed nipples do exist.

Steve
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

Ouch !! are you sure you are in the right NG :)

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Old 11-26-2005, 08:01   #6 (permalink)
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"Bob Miller" <bob.miller.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3uptn9F12b85iU1@individual.net...
> OK - dumb question to start the weekend:
>
> Got to bleed the brake system this weekend (1990 110 with rear drums) and
> I've noticed that the front calliper brake nipple is conveniently hidden
> between two bolt heads (just to make it impossible to get any sort of
> swing
> on a spanner). Is there any sort of gizmo that enables you to open and
> close the nipple while still keeping the tube on it? The only other thing
> I
> can think of is a socket and pump pliers with the tube coming out of the
> hole in the back of the socket, or failing that can you put a longer
> nipple
> on it, and if so what is the thread?
> --
> MTIA
>
> Bob Miller
> 1990 ex-RAF 110 3.5 V8 17KJ83
> 1967 3/4 ton Sankey 09ES17
>

deep offset ring spanner? something like
http://www.hti-tools.com/RingSpanners.htm
Derek


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Old 11-26-2005, 09:01   #7 (permalink)
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The only other thing
> > I
> > can think of is a socket and pump pliers with the tube coming out of the
> > hole in the back of the socket,


Socket and mole grips might leave a hand free too.
TonyB


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Old 11-26-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

In article <dm9bc0$80s$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, TonyB
<Norfolk@soxclara.co.uk> writes
>
>"Bob Miller" <bob.miller.nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:3uptn9F12b85iU1@individual.net...
>> Is there any sort of gizmo that enables you to open and
>> close the nipple while still keeping the tube on it? The only other thing

>I
>> can think of is a socket and pump pliers with the tube coming out of the
>> hole in the back of the socket, or failing that can you put a longer

>nipple
>> on it, and if so what is the thread?


One way, but involves the 'destruction' of a socket" get a long
reach one and use a disk cutter to carefully make a slot in it
for the bleed pipe to emerge from the side:

Pipe Socket
\ \ | |
\ \ | |
\ \| |
\ \ |
\ \ |
\ \ |
\ \|
|| ||

Obviously, ASCII art has its limitations! The slot goes to the bottom,
so you can apply it over the already-fitted pipe. Plan B would be a box
spanner modified in a similar way. I'd use a socket in preference, as
the finished item is likely to be stronger and you can use a swivel or
universal joint on it to make operation easier.

I hate doing brakes, and found a pressure-bleed system to be the biz
(uses air from the spare tyre to force fluid through via the reservoir).
It's still easier as a two-man job though, and I used a trailer tyre
instead of the spare for the air supply, as that's easier to manipulate.

If the above isn't it, hope it sparks-off some ideas.


Regards,

Simonm.

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Old 11-26-2005, 13:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

In article <Uc%hf.3233$xP2.2683@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, Derek
<del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> writes
>deep offset ring spanner? something like
>http://www.hti-tools.com/RingSpanners.htm


You can slot these too with a grinder...

Regards,

Simonm. (now worried he's getting obsessed with slicing up tools!)

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Old 11-26-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Bleeding Nipples - is there a gizmo

SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

> In article <Uc%hf.3233$xP2.2683@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>, Derek
> <del.wattsnospambaby@ntlworld.com> writes
>
>> deep offset ring spanner? something like
>> http://www.hti-tools.com/RingSpanners.htm

>
>
> You can slot these too with a grinder...
>
> Regards,
>
> Simonm. (now worried he's getting obsessed with slicing up tools!)


I must be missing something here! Why slot a ring spanner for bleeding
purposes - just pass the bleed tube through the ring. The same is true
for a socket - don't use the square drive to turn it, weld/braze a
handle off the side.
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