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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #1 (permalink)
Brian Tonks
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Body lift

I want to give my Range Rover a 2" body lift what else is required to do
this other than the 10 spacers.

It's Auto so the shifter will move
I will have to extend the high low lever.
Front brake pipe brackets will need to move down
Rear brake pipes are allready modified.

Will I have to extend the steering column or will it handle a 2" lift?

Regards in advance

Brian Tonks


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:13   #2 (permalink)
Austin Shackles
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Re: Body lift

On or around Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:52:50 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
<tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>I want to give my Range Rover a 2" body lift what else is required to do
>this other than the 10 spacers.
>
>It's Auto so the shifter will move
>I will have to extend the high low lever.
>Front brake pipe brackets will need to move down
>Rear brake pipes are allready modified.
>
>Will I have to extend the steering column or will it handle a 2" lift?


why not just lift it on the suspension? much easier. spacers in the
springs or taller springs, longer dampers or reduced-height mountings,
you've done some of the brake pipes. about the only other thing you might
need to consider is corrective front radius arms or swivel housings, either
of which are to be had, to get the steering geometry right again.

however... apart from the shifter cable may be attached to a bracket, it'll
move OK with the body. The high-low lever can be extended with a suitable
bit of thick-wall tube, thread internally (I think M10x1.5) both ends and
fit a short bit of threaded rod to the top end (with a locknut) to take the
gearknob. The bit of tube wants to be about 3" overall.


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too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

As far as other mods go, it's a 4 door bobtail with 21" removed from the
rear. it's had a four inch lift on springs it has an extra one inch packer
at the rear. It has cranked rear trailing arms, 4inch lowered rear shock
mounts, +2 shocks, it's running 265/75 -16 tyres, Iv'e just put 30mm wheel
spacers on and now I can get the full 16" of articulation at the rear
without catching a bean. BUT!!

I want bigger tyres.........

Regards
Brian Tonks



"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
news:jg0431pru4qn28e8j8q293ugo5d637sqh8@4ax.com...
> On or around Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:52:50 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
> <tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >I want to give my Range Rover a 2" body lift what else is required to do
> >this other than the 10 spacers.
> >
> >It's Auto so the shifter will move
> >I will have to extend the high low lever.
> >Front brake pipe brackets will need to move down
> >Rear brake pipes are allready modified.
> >
> >Will I have to extend the steering column or will it handle a 2" lift?

>
> why not just lift it on the suspension? much easier. spacers in the
> springs or taller springs, longer dampers or reduced-height mountings,
> you've done some of the brake pipes. about the only other thing you might
> need to consider is corrective front radius arms or swivel housings,

either
> of which are to be had, to get the steering geometry right again.
>
> however... apart from the shifter cable may be attached to a bracket,

it'll
> move OK with the body. The high-low lever can be extended with a suitable
> bit of thick-wall tube, thread internally (I think M10x1.5) both ends and
> fit a short bit of threaded rod to the top end (with a locknut) to take

the
> gearknob. The bit of tube wants to be about 3" overall.
>
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> "There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
> too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
> sighted, 20th July 1588



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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:36 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
<tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>As far as other mods go, it's a 4 door bobtail with 21" removed from the
>rear. it's had a four inch lift on springs it has an extra one inch packer
>at the rear. It has cranked rear trailing arms, 4inch lowered rear shock
>mounts, +2 shocks, it's running 265/75 -16 tyres, Iv'e just put 30mm wheel
>spacers on and now I can get the full 16" of articulation at the rear
>without catching a bean. BUT!!
>
>I want bigger tyres.........


ah well, you never said all that.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift


"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:36 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
> <tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>As far as other mods go, it's a 4 door bobtail with 21" removed from the
>>rear. it's had a four inch lift on springs it has an extra one inch packer
>>at the rear. It has cranked rear trailing arms, 4inch lowered rear shock
>>mounts, +2 shocks, it's running 265/75 -16 tyres, Iv'e just put 30mm wheel
>>spacers on and now I can get the full 16" of articulation at the rear
>>without catching a bean. BUT!!
>>
>>I want bigger tyres.........

>
> ah well, you never said all that.


Hey Austin, he also never said that the c of g is now so high that it needs
the bigger tyres to go over roundabouts as it tips over if he tries to go
round them! Teeheehee. <Grin>
Sorry Brian, just having a laugh.
Badger.


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:20:58 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhattonnospammers@beeeteeeinnit.com> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>news:fpoa315jn89f4u5k9v6sbqlc1ptam2ql1t@4ax.com...
>> On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:36 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
>> <tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>As far as other mods go, it's a 4 door bobtail with 21" removed from the
>>>rear. it's had a four inch lift on springs it has an extra one inch packer
>>>at the rear. It has cranked rear trailing arms, 4inch lowered rear shock
>>>mounts, +2 shocks, it's running 265/75 -16 tyres, Iv'e just put 30mm wheel
>>>spacers on and now I can get the full 16" of articulation at the rear
>>>without catching a bean. BUT!!
>>>
>>>I want bigger tyres.........

>>
>> ah well, you never said all that.

>
>Hey Austin, he also never said that the c of g is now so high that it needs
>the bigger tyres to go over roundabouts as it tips over if he tries to go
>round them! Teeheehee. <Grin>
>Sorry Brian, just having a laugh.


sounds a mean machine. personally, I'd look at fitting dual wheels, to get
the track wide enough :-)

'ere, that's a point, anyone tried it? The LR wheel bearings look big
enough to manage, to me.

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of magnets and miracles / Our thoughts strayed constantly and without
boundary / The ringing of the Division bell had begun. Pink Floyd (1994)
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift


"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:20:58 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <brianhattonnospammers@beeeteeeinnit.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>>news:fpoa315jn89f4u5k9v6sbqlc1ptam2ql1t@4ax.com...
>>> On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:50:36 GMT, "Brian Tonks"
>>> <tonks4x4@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>>As far as other mods go, it's a 4 door bobtail with 21" removed from the
>>>>rear. it's had a four inch lift on springs it has an extra one inch
>>>>packer
>>>>at the rear. It has cranked rear trailing arms, 4inch lowered rear shock
>>>>mounts, +2 shocks, it's running 265/75 -16 tyres, Iv'e just put 30mm
>>>>wheel
>>>>spacers on and now I can get the full 16" of articulation at the rear
>>>>without catching a bean. BUT!!
>>>>
>>>>I want bigger tyres.........
>>>
>>> ah well, you never said all that.

>>
>>Hey Austin, he also never said that the c of g is now so high that it
>>needs
>>the bigger tyres to go over roundabouts as it tips over if he tries to go
>>round them! Teeheehee. <Grin>
>>Sorry Brian, just having a laugh.

>
> sounds a mean machine. personally, I'd look at fitting dual wheels, to
> get
> the track wide enough :-)
>
> 'ere, that's a point, anyone tried it? The LR wheel bearings look big
> enough to manage, to me.


Oh, God, what have I started?
I've just kick-started Austin's "Tangiential thinking" part of his brain!
:-))
Sorry, group!

Badger.


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

Badger wrote:

> Oh, God, what have I started?
> I've just kick-started Austin's "Tangiential thinking" part of his brain!
> :-))


The results should be well interesting. I can feel the imminent arrival
of "Roman Road Rangies" in the marketplace. :-)


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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

On or around Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:06:52 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Badger wrote:
>
>> Oh, God, what have I started?
>> I've just kick-started Austin's "Tangiential thinking" part of his brain!
>> :-))

>
>The results should be well interesting. I can feel the imminent arrival
>of "Roman Road Rangies" in the marketplace. :-)


Hehe. Actually, I reckon the next one on the market, if ever, is the
transit/LR hybrid. I still reckon that's got promise.

Although the dual-wheel conversion would be a lot easier to do... they do it
with tractors, after all.

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Old 03-21-2005, 01:14   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Body lift

On or around Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:03:22 +0000, Austin Shackles
<austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On or around Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:06:52 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
>enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Badger wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, God, what have I started?
>>> I've just kick-started Austin's "Tangiential thinking" part of his brain!
>>> :-))

>>
>>The results should be well interesting. I can feel the imminent arrival
>>of "Roman Road Rangies" in the marketplace. :-)

>
>Hehe. Actually, I reckon the next one on the market, if ever, is the
>transit/LR hybrid. I still reckon that's got promise.
>
>Although the dual-wheel conversion would be a lot easier to do... they do it
>with tractors, after all.


better yet, dual wheels which are a bit smaller, so that in normal
conditions on hard surfaces they don't touch the ground, but come into play
when needed. Would suffice to have something like 235/85 for the main
wheels and 235/70 for the extra ones, I should think. hmmm, lessee...
235/85 gives you a nominal radius of 15.86", 235/70 gives 14.47". Aye,
that'll work, provided the 235/85 is reasonably well inflated, you get about
1.4" of clearance.

That will help save the wheel bearings, too, as most of the time it'll only
get the normal loading.

so... I'll get designing a suitable clamp system... actually, a sod-off
spacer set and some rather specialized wheelnuts would do, I expect.

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