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Old 11-12-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
ericthesalesman
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Brakes

I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake peddle
is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Brakes


"ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake
> peddle
> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC



You should not really have disturbed the hydraulics by fitting new pads.
Have you pumped them several times to get the pistons out of the callipers?
If so they should feel no different to before. You may have another problem.
It sounds as if you have tried to bleed them already but possibly
incorrectly. You do know that you have to stop air being sucked into the
plumbing when the pedal is released?

Huw


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Old 11-12-2005, 11:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Brakes

"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
>> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake
>> peddle
>> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
>> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC

>
>
> You should not really have disturbed the hydraulics by fitting new pads.
> Have you pumped them several times to get the pistons out of the
> callipers? If so they should feel no different to before. You may have
> another problem. It sounds as if you have tried to bleed them already but
> possibly incorrectly. You do know that you have to stop air being sucked
> into the plumbing when the pedal is released?
>
> Huw
>


A clue as to what the vehicle is may help too.

Lee D


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Old 11-12-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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"Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
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> "Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3tmq08Ftsuo8U1@individual.net...
>>
>> "ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
>>> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake
>>> peddle
>>> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
>>> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC

>>
>>
>> You should not really have disturbed the hydraulics by fitting new pads.
>> Have you pumped them several times to get the pistons out of the
>> callipers? If so they should feel no different to before. You may have
>> another problem. It sounds as if you have tried to bleed them already but
>> possibly incorrectly. You do know that you have to stop air being sucked
>> into the plumbing when the pedal is released?
>>
>> Huw
>>

>
> A clue as to what the vehicle is may help too.
>
> Lee D
>


Why? Brake callipers and pads are much of a muchness aren't they?

Huw


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Old 11-12-2005, 17:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Brakes


>>> "ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
>>>> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake
>>>> peddle
>>>> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
>>>> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC
>>>
>>>
>>> You should not really have disturbed the hydraulics by fitting new pads.
>>> Have you pumped them several times to get the pistons out of the
>>> callipers? If so they should feel no different to before. You may have
>>> another problem. It sounds as if you have tried to bleed them already but
>>> possibly incorrectly. You do know that you have to stop air being sucked
>>> into the plumbing when the pedal is released?
>>>

>>
>> A clue as to what the vehicle is may help too.
>>

>
>Why? Brake callipers and pads are much of a muchness aren't they?
>


Given the daft things Landrover used to do with Series brakes to make
them impossible to bleed, no.

Alex
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Old 11-12-2005, 23:01   #6 (permalink)
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"ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake

peddle
> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC


Sounds like undersize brake pads on oversize drums if
you did n't disturb the hydraulics.


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Old 11-13-2005, 04:01   #7 (permalink)
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:06:55 GMT, "Roger & Lorraine Martin"
<rmar7344@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

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>"ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
>> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake

>peddle
>> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I can't
>> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC

>
>Sounds like undersize brake pads on oversize drums if
>you did n't disturb the hydraulics.


Shoes on drums, pads on discs.

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Old 11-13-2005, 04:01   #8 (permalink)
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"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Why? Brake callipers and pads are much of a muchness aren't they?
>
> Huw
>


Some calipers have 3 nipples of which 1 usually hides behind a load of crud.
I've spent a few hours trying to bleed not knowning this.

Lee D


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Old 11-13-2005, 04:01   #9 (permalink)
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"Alex" <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>> "ericthesalesman" <u15676@uwe> wrote in message
>>>> news:5741e4b128e10@uwe...
>>>>> I've Changed the front brake pads Now my pressure is low and the brake
>>>>> peddle
>>>>> is mushy and goes to the floor and strugles to stop the vehicle.I
>>>>> can't
>>>>> figure out how to properly bleed thew brakes.PLEASE HELP THANKS ERIC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should not really have disturbed the hydraulics by fitting new
>>>> pads.
>>>> Have you pumped them several times to get the pistons out of the
>>>> callipers? If so they should feel no different to before. You may have
>>>> another problem. It sounds as if you have tried to bleed them already
>>>> but
>>>> possibly incorrectly. You do know that you have to stop air being
>>>> sucked
>>>> into the plumbing when the pedal is released?
>>>>
>>>
>>> A clue as to what the vehicle is may help too.
>>>

>>
>>Why? Brake callipers and pads are much of a muchness aren't they?
>>

>
> Given the daft things Landrover used to do with Series brakes to make
> them impossible to bleed, no.
>


Series used drums. In fact drums were and are still used on the rear of some
Defenders but he interfered not with drums. In fact he should not have
interfered with anything just by changing the pads. I've certainly never had
to bleed brakes after a simple pad change.

Huw


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