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Old 06-19-2005, 15:02   #1 (permalink)
Lee_D
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Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

Any one got one?

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000510004

I'd like to know if it would be any good for..

1. Cleaning the oil drips from block paving (specifically patches rather
than the whole drive)
2. Removing paint from wheels (Morphs old nato drab)

I have a compressor of the desired size.

Bound to be soome reason against it as the price seems good.

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Old 06-19-2005, 17:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

Yes i've got one - don't use it now, cos i have a shot blasting cabenet.
the only thing against them realy is the amount of waste and mess, i
would thing you would get through a lot of material on your wheels.

Gary


Lee_D wrote:
> Any one got one?
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000510004
>
> I'd like to know if it would be any good for..
>
> 1. Cleaning the oil drips from block paving (specifically patches rather
> than the whole drive)
> 2. Removing paint from wheels (Morphs old nato drab)
>
> I have a compressor of the desired size.
>
> Bound to be soome reason against it as the price seems good.
>
> Lee D
>


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Old 06-19-2005, 17:02   #3 (permalink)
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"Gaza" <ukc801726963@btconnect.com> wrote in message
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> Yes i've got one - don't use it now, cos i have a shot blasting cabenet.
> the only thing against them realy is the amount of waste and mess, i would
> thing you would get through a lot of material on your wheels.
>
> Gary


Would a bucket of sand do the trick to be swept up and re used or would that
promptly jam it with paint debris? Is this how the cabinetes work on a
recycle basis?

I'm suspecting it's got to be a medium of just the right diameter.

And I'm also midful of harmful dust from the process so any pointers
appreciated.

Lee D


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Old 06-20-2005, 04:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

I had a go at cleaning one of my wheels up to see how hard it was -
they are bronze green underneath!

It wasnt actually that bad. If you take the wheel off and lie it flat
on the ground its a lot easier. It didnt take much nitromors. A lot of
the camo on mine would just flake off if i ran a screwdriver round the
wheel.
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Old 06-20-2005, 05:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

Lee_D wrote:

> 1. Cleaning the oil drips from block paving (specifically patches rather
> than the whole drive)


Probably.

> 2. Removing paint from wheels (Morphs old nato drab)


Yes.

> I have a compressor of the desired size.


But what size reciever? I use a 3HP/150L reciever, and it has to run
flat out to run one of these:

<http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=583&R=583>

> Bound to be soome reason against it as the price seems good


Yes, enough media to do your wheels will probably cost the same as the
purchase price of the gun, you NEED protective gear (it is horrible
stuff and gets EVERYWHERE). A sandblaster hood will probably cost more
than twenty quid, and then you'll need new lenses for it all the time
(depending on what kind of work you're doing - fine sandblasting and
you'll go through more peering at the work you're doing, rough stuff
you'll be further away.

It's one tool that was bought to do more stuff in-house and speed
things up for me, but since gettting it I've used it a few times and
came to the conclusion that it's no good unless:

1) You can get media cheaply (don't expect to reuse it)
2) You can make a real mess somewhere and then clean it up easily
(that'll probably not be an issue for you if you have block paving, I
don't, I did outside on the dirt)
3) You have a large reciever for you air compressor (I'm not convinced
by air tools minimum requirements, they're generally a bit on the
"might just work side" rather than the "works OK with side"

Regards

William MacLeod

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Old 06-20-2005, 09:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

Lee_D wrote:

> Would a bucket of sand do the trick to be swept up and re used or would that
> promptly jam it with paint debris? Is this how the cabinetes work on a
> recycle basis?


"Sand" is probably illegal these days, the media is usually glass bead
or carborundum.
Recycling in a cabinet is either by a cyclone system, or in the cheap
end, just using a well filtered wet/dry vacuum cleaner to suck out the
finer shit as it is suspended in the air in the cabinet.



>
> I'm suspecting it's got to be a medium of just the right diameter.


Its actually not spectacularly sensitive to grit size, obviously you
can't shoot pea gravel or 5000 grit, but bigger media can still be
lifted if you turn the wick up.

Steve
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Old 06-20-2005, 12:02   #7 (permalink)
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"Tom Woods" <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I had a go at cleaning one of my wheels up to see how hard it was -
> they are bronze green underneath!
>
> It wasnt actually that bad. If you take the wheel off and lie it flat
> on the ground its a lot easier. It didnt take much nitromors. A lot of
> the camo on mine would just flake off if i ran a screwdriver round the
> wheel.


I used nitromors on my motorbike wheels with tubes and tyres still on.
Shortly after I got back on the road I got a flat, the tube had deteriorated
round the valve :O(


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Old 06-20-2005, 17:01   #8 (permalink)
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:41:16 +0100, "Angus McCoatup©"
<nospamta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>"Tom Woods" <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fr2db190ofmn5ea24s848ggc4d0fi7sslr@4ax.com...
>> I had a go at cleaning one of my wheels up to see how hard it was -
>> they are bronze green underneath!
>>
>> It wasnt actually that bad. If you take the wheel off and lie it flat
>> on the ground its a lot easier. It didnt take much nitromors. A lot of
>> the camo on mine would just flake off if i ran a screwdriver round the
>> wheel.

>
>I used nitromors on my motorbike wheels with tubes and tyres still on.
>Shortly after I got back on the road I got a flat, the tube had deteriorated
>round the valve :O(


Ooh. i shall be careful with the rest of them then! (The one i did is
currently the spare).
Perhaps getting the tyres taken off first would be a good idea!

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Old 06-21-2005, 03:01   #9 (permalink)
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"Lee_D" <newsgroupNOSPAM@NOSPAMlrproject.com> wrote in message
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> Any one got one?
>
> http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000510004
>
> I'd like to know if it would be any good for..
>
> 1. Cleaning the oil drips from block paving (specifically patches rather
> than the whole drive)
> 2. Removing paint from wheels (Morphs old nato drab)
>
> I have a compressor of the desired size.
>
> Bound to be soome reason against it as the price seems good.
>
> Lee D
>

I lashed out on an attachment for my high pressure water washer
which uses a venturi to suck dry sand up into the water and blast
it. Its a lot safer than dry blast medium which really needs some
serious respiratory protection for you, family and neighbours. Sand
is absolutely out of the question because of the risk of silicosis, I'm
not sure that you can buy canister type filters for silica - usually
you have to have an external clean air supply if blasting sand.

Most of the Karcher type washers now sell the attachments.

The other advantage of wet blasting is that its easy to clean up, you
dont get dust everywhere and its nowhere near as noisy either.

I tried the air grit blasters - pressure is not an issue with most
compressors - volume is the main issue. Grit blasters use LARGE
amounts of air and the average home compressor is not upto the
task.


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Old 06-21-2005, 04:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Budget Sandblaster - Machine mart - Views

On or around Tue, 21 Jun 2005 07:58:16 GMT, "Roger & Lorraine Martin"
<rmar7344@bigpond.net.au> enlightened us thusly:

>>

>I lashed out on an attachment for my high pressure water washer
>which uses a venturi to suck dry sand up into the water and blast
>it.


I assume it uses a different lance, can't see sand doing the water nozzle
much good.

what sort of money was it? sounds a useful piece of kit.
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