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Old 08-28-2005, 00:01   #1 (permalink)
Ian Hamilton
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Burning oil

I have a 1990 defender 200 tdi and on my way back from malvern lro show
yesterday , managed to use 10 ltr of oil in 200 miles, any ideas anyone,
there is smoke and pressure from the oil filler cap and dip stick, i have
been told there could be a hole in a piston or cracked rings, can anyone
help with any further advice and how much i'm looking at to get repaired.
1990 200 TDI defender with 125000 on clock.
cheers Ian Hamilton.


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Old 08-28-2005, 01:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Burning oil

In message <mpcQe.1066$x4.164@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:

> I have a 1990 defender 200 tdi and on my way back from malvern lro show
> yesterday , managed to use 10 ltr of oil in 200 miles, any ideas anyone,
> there is smoke and pressure from the oil filler cap and dip stick, i have
> been told there could be a hole in a piston or cracked rings, can anyone
> help with any further advice and how much i'm looking at to get repaired.
> 1990 200 TDI defender with 125000 on clock.
> cheers Ian Hamilton.
>
>


Sounds like the head gasket is going - between No.3 or No.4 cylinder
and the pushrod holes - i.e. the usual place. Check for the air filter
being full of oil thats the give away.

Richard
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Old 08-28-2005, 04:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Burning oil

Hi beamendsltd, have checked air filter and there are signs that oil is
present and running through it, cheers any idea on how much it will cost to
repair and what work is involved, cheers ian.
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> In message <mpcQe.1066$x4.164@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a 1990 defender 200 tdi and on my way back from malvern lro show
>> yesterday , managed to use 10 ltr of oil in 200 miles, any ideas anyone,
>> there is smoke and pressure from the oil filler cap and dip stick, i have
>> been told there could be a hole in a piston or cracked rings, can anyone
>> help with any further advice and how much i'm looking at to get repaired.
>> 1990 200 TDI defender with 125000 on clock.
>> cheers Ian Hamilton.
>>
>>

>
> Sounds like the head gasket is going - between No.3 or No.4 cylinder
> and the pushrod holes - i.e. the usual place. Check for the air filter
> being full of oil thats the give away.
>
> Richard
> --
> www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
> Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> Helping keep Land Rovers on and off the road to annoy the Lib Dems



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Old 08-28-2005, 05:01   #4 (permalink)
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In message <LLgQe.771$B4.267@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
"Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:

> Hi beamendsltd, have checked air filter and there are signs that oil is
> present and running through it, cheers any idea on how much it will cost to
> repair and what work is involved, cheers ian.


Well, you'd need to take the head off and have the lightest possible skim
(just to clean it up really) - something around 30 to 50 depending
on your local place. You'll need:
a top end set
STC1172 Top End Set - 200Tdi - Discovery I/Defender/RRC
22.32 inc VAT (Britpart)
or
24.67 inc VAT (Elring)
and a head gasket:
ERR5261 200/300 Tdi Cylinder Head Gasket (1-Hole) 1.3mm
or
ERR5262 200/300 Tdi Cylinder Head Gasket (2-Hole) 1.4mm
or
ERR5263 200/300 Tdi Cylinder Head Gasket (3-Hole) 1.5mm
all 14.09 inc VAT (Elring - we don't do cheapies on those)

It would be worth checking the valve guides for play to
be on the safe side (though I'd expect they'd be ok).
Changing them can get pricey as the new ones need reaming.

You'll also need to re-seat the valves - this can be done while
getting the head skimmed or you can do it manually

A new air filter!

Wash out the cyclone filter and hoses, and clean out the intercooler
which will most likely be full of oil.

The head bolts can be re-used six times (including fitting at the
factory) - whether you want to fit new ones is up to you really.
DA2006 Head Bolt Set - 200 Tdi 35.92 inc VAT.

That's about it.

I'd estimate a labour bill of 100-150 for a garage to do the work,
though I'd stress thats only going by labour rates round here......
and depending on how long they have to spend finding the valve
stem caps ;-)

The good news is that, if the nead is tightened down correctly, you'll
most likely never have to do it again.

Richard

> "beamendsltd" <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote in message
> news:18a868a14d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
> > In message <mpcQe.1066$x4.164@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> > "Ian Hamilton" <snoozy.757@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a 1990 defender 200 tdi and on my way back from malvern lro show
> >> yesterday , managed to use 10 ltr of oil in 200 miles, any ideas anyone,
> >> there is smoke and pressure from the oil filler cap and dip stick, i have
> >> been told there could be a hole in a piston or cracked rings, can anyone
> >> help with any further advice and how much i'm looking at to get repaired.
> >> 1990 200 TDI defender with 125000 on clock.
> >> cheers Ian Hamilton.
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Sounds like the head gasket is going - between No.3 or No.4 cylinder
> > and the pushrod holes - i.e. the usual place. Check for the air filter
> > being full of oil thats the give away.
> >
> > Richard
> > --
> > www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
> > Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
> > Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
> > Helping keep Land Rovers on and off the road to annoy the Lib Dems

>
>


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