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Old 04-06-2005, 11:01   #1 (permalink)
Robert St-Louis
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Carrying engine in back?

Hi all,
I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
the job.
Thanks.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

"Robert St-Louis" <robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
> engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
> around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
> 110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
> possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
> protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
> door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
> can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
> Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
> the job.
> Thanks.


I and the buyer rolled Percys old 2 1/4 petrol engine into the rear of a 110
up some scaffolding boards.

NEVER AGAIN.

I also recently travelled 120 miles to collect an Engine, V8 on this
occasion and after much mauling in the absence of a lift gave up and came
home.

Make sure you have a lift, plenty of wood to chock it with and rope to tie
it down. If you have no tie downs then fit some. If you consider risking it
then imagine how much fun it will be if you roll the 110 with a loose engine
swinging around. Granted you can only do so much.

Lee D
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

On or around 6 Apr 2005 10:07:30 -0700, robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca (Robert
St-Louis) enlightened us thusly:

>Hi all,
>I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
>engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
>around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
>110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
>possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
>protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
>door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
>can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
>Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
>the job.
>Thanks.


it's within the weight capacity for the motor, I reckon. Don't put it right
at the back, you might make the front end light, and put some decently thick
plywood on the floor to avoid silly point loads.

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Old 04-06-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

On 6 Apr 2005 10:07:30 -0700, robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca (Robert
St-Louis) wrote:

>Hi all,
>I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
>engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
>around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
>110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
>possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
>protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
>door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
>can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
>Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
>the job.
>Thanks.


that's almost 320 kilos,
maximum permitted laden weight 3050kg
max permitted load rate rear axle 1850kg

I can't lay my hands on the unladen weight right now though

I suspect it's within the weight though so no problem, try and get it
central between the axles and tie the bugger down.

A guy near me has a 1000 litre water tank on the back of his
double-cab 110 so that's 1000 kg over the rear axle.


Regards.
Mark.
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Old 04-06-2005, 12:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

We had a 3ton motor in the back of the 110 truck cab at work. Made the
steering light! lol
I would have thought what you want to carry is well within the limits.


"MVP" <mr.nice@*nospam*softhome.net> wrote in message
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> On 6 Apr 2005 10:07:30 -0700, robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca (Robert
> St-Louis) wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
>>engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
>>around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
>>110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
>>possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
>>protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
>>door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
>>can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
>>Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
>>the job.
>>Thanks.

>
> that's almost 320 kilos,
> maximum permitted laden weight 3050kg
> max permitted load rate rear axle 1850kg
>
> I can't lay my hands on the unladen weight right now though
>
> I suspect it's within the weight though so no problem, try and get it
> central between the axles and tie the bugger down.
>
> A guy near me has a 1000 litre water tank on the back of his
> double-cab 110 so that's 1000 kg over the rear axle.
>
>
> Regards.
> Mark.
> --
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> www.4x4info.info
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Old 04-06-2005, 14:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

That's what Land Rovers were designed to do in the first place :)

Dropping the engine onto an old tire, so the sump is where the wheel itself
was, will stabilise it a lot, plus a few old tires around it to stop it
moving too much will help - in addition to properly tieing it down.

We've carried lots in the old S11A that way, hauling donks out of bush
location. An engine crane helps too

K


"Robert St-Louis" <robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca> wrote in message
news:a0e2c4a4.0504060907.4fb3591d@posting.google.com...
Hi all,
I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
the job.
Thanks.


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Old 04-06-2005, 14:02   #7 (permalink)
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In message <a0e2c4a4.0504060907.4fb3591d@posting.google.com>, Robert
St-Louis <robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca> writes
>Hi all,
>I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
>engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
>around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
>110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
>possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
>protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
>door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
>can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
>Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
>the job.
>Thanks.

Carried a 2.5 NA diesel in the back of my 90 once. No problem but had an
engine hoist at the other end to help get it out.

Also transported a V8 but it was on a pallet so was easily lifted in and
out with a fork lift.
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Old 04-06-2005, 14:02   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Carrying engine in back?

Thanks a lot everyone. Sounds like it's something that is doable as
long as one can get it in and out fairly readily (without damaging the
door etc.), position it over the axle, protect the floor, and secure it
well (indeed, the thought of rolling the truck with a 350kg engine
bouncing around back there is somewhat frightful!). Ideally, clean it
and drain it well so it doesn't mess up the back of the truck! I like
the idea of dropping it onto an old tire (or on a pallet). Cheers, all!

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Old 04-06-2005, 15:01   #9 (permalink)
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On or around 6 Apr 2005 13:38:50 -0700, "RSTL99" <robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca>
enlightened us thusly:

>position it over the axle,


get the centre of mass slightly in front of the rear axle if you can.
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Old 04-06-2005, 17:01   #10 (permalink)
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in article a0e2c4a4.0504060907.4fb3591d@posting.google.com, Robert St-Louis
at robert.st-louis@ec.gc.ca wrote on 6/4/05 5:07 pm:

> Hi all,
> I own a 110 and may shortly need to travel 3 hours to go pick up an
> engine for possible future swap into the 110. The engine weighs
> around 600-700 pounds. I don't presently have a hitch installed on my
> 110 so can't presently pull a trailer, so was wondering if it would be
> possible to haul it in the back. I'd put some plywood on the floor to
> protect it, and obviously the engine has to be able to fit through the
> door and be lifted in (and out of) there, but is there any reason you
> can think why this shouldn't be done? It's a diesel engine.
> Alternatively, I can install hitch and wiring and rent a trailer for
> the job.
> Thanks.



Piece of piss. I have put a 2 1/4 diesel in the back of a 2 1/4 petrol SWB
series 2 and momed it no prob, Had to back the Landy upto the suspended
engine as we couldn't move the crane!
Still hit 80 comming home!

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