Re: Changing 4x4
I know this is a Landrover group and so I am supposed to be biased
towards them...but I will be impartial!
Having driven our work Mitsi L200 pickup & Nissan Teranno (3.0 Litre
Diesel) and my own Defender 90 (that is 10 years older!!!) I would
consider it to be a very easy decision.
Go buy a Defender, however old - Consider a 200Tdi and a 300Tdi as the
same engine - technically they are not but as far as driving them is
concerned they are. Both are very easy to work on yourself. TD5s are
more refined, a bit more powerful, and will need a trip to a garage
should anything ECU related crop up, they are also a bit more
For me the deciding factors are these:
1. A defender has 4 coil springs, most of the others dont and
this make a massive difference to the road manners and also helps on
the off-road stuff.
2. Engine torque - Defenders have bags of it low down so
driving them is very relaxed. The Japense offerings tend to have big
turbos on old designed engines, once they are spinning they are OK but
waiting for it to cut in around town can be painful.
The only downside to a Defender is this - they are not as high geared
as either a Disco or the Japanese offerings so arent as fast on the
road and / or engin noise is greater for an equivelant speed in the
others. This though is easily resolved, buy a TDi rather than a TD5
and with the money you save, take a trip to Ashcrofts and have the
gearing altered in the Transfer box.
M'mm... that means there are no disadvantages to a Defender.
Buy a Defender, he will grow to love it and it will rot away before he
chooses to sell it and still be worth more than a Jap effort!
Re-reading above it seems as though I have lost my impartiality
somewhere along the way...Defenders Rock!
Just my two-penneth!
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:43:57 +0100, Bill <email@example.com> wrote:
>My son has asked me for advice and wonder if anyone here could help with
>I have a 110 2.25 hardtop. He has a Jeep Cherokee 4.0L auto, which is
>reliable and he likes the image of.
>He does a lot of miles towing, and takes a trailer up mountains where
>the Jeep is necessary. He works in N. London and uses the vehicle
>locally when not on trips, getting about 9 to 15 mpg.
>He is suddenly in a situation where he still needs the 4x4, is still
>doing the local mileage, but is having to add regular visits to a friend
>who is paralysed in hospital.
>He doesn't want the hassle of gas conversion and has been asking me
>whether he should look for a diesel Defender or a Mitsubishi diesel
>pickup thing with the big cab which he knows of and which might be for
>I've been saying that I think the Defender would be a bit too crude and
>I'm not sure about the mpg, and that I have read that these pickups are
>a bit crude too. Not sure whether these pickups have as long wheelbase
>as they look, and whether this would make manoeuvring with the trailer
>difficult. I've been saying Disco to him, but he seems to think it's
>not quite his image (you know what young people are like).
>What mpg should he expect with these various vehicles? He doesn't have
>any money to spare.
>Any observations gratefully received.