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Old 11-21-2005, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
Jon
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Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

Hi all,

I was given the 90 a quick look over yesterday and found the top
mounting bush for the right rear damper is knackered (at least I
assume its the bush and not the bolt thats worn). I can rotate the
damper housing about 1/4" - 3/8" around the fixing bolt.

The last owner put Monroe shocks on (all I know about them is that
they are made by Monroe and are yellow). From this is is it possible
to tell if they are oil / gas filled?

More to the point, can you buy replacement bushes or do I have to
replace the damper? Hopefully I'll be able to buy the bushes but if
not should I put 2 new dampers on or try to get another the same as
the one coming off?

None of the dampers are leaking and will all be at least 3 years old.

Advice needed please.

Thanks
Jon
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:01   #2 (permalink)
willie@macleod-group.com
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

You can just replace the bushes, they're pennies each. Beamends will
be along shortly with a price!

Regards

William MacLeod

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Old 11-21-2005, 04:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

Excellent news. Just what I wanted to hear...

>You can just replace the bushes, they're pennies each. Beamends will
>be along shortly with a price!
>
>Regards
>
>William MacLeod


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Old 11-21-2005, 06:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

In message <1132572057.858551.186590@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"willie@macleod-group.com" <willie@macleod-group.com> wrote:

> You can just replace the bushes, they're pennies each. Beamends will
> be along shortly with a price!
>
> Regards
>
> William MacLeod
>


Assuming 2-piece top bushes....

552819 Bush Shock Absorber Top Series/Range Rover to 85 0.16 inc VAT
552818 Shock Absorber bottom Bush 0.16 inc VAT

Richard
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

On or around Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:05:48 +0000 (UTC), Jon <nospam@nospam.com>
enlightened us thusly:

>Hi all,
>
>I was given the 90 a quick look over yesterday and found the top
>mounting bush for the right rear damper is knackered (at least I
>assume its the bush and not the bolt thats worn). I can rotate the
>damper housing about 1/4" - 3/8" around the fixing bolt.
>
>The last owner put Monroe shocks on (all I know about them is that
>they are made by Monroe and are yellow). From this is is it possible
>to tell if they are oil / gas filled?
>
>More to the point, can you buy replacement bushes or do I have to
>replace the damper? Hopefully I'll be able to buy the bushes but if
>not should I put 2 new dampers on or try to get another the same as
>the one coming off?
>
>None of the dampers are leaking and will all be at least 3 years old.
>



There's a good argument in favour of using the original spec cheap dampers
(most are Armstrong) which cost something silly like 10 quid a piece or
less, and replacing them fairly often. The "better" ones tend to about 4
times the price and don't, for the most part, last 4 times as long at decent
efficiency.

You can make an exception to this rule if you do extreme off-road activity
on a regular basis, which may exceed the abilities of the cheap dampers.
--
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too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:05:48 +0000 (UTC), Jon
> <nospam@nospam.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I was given the 90 a quick look over yesterday and found the top
>>mounting bush for the right rear damper is knackered (at least I
>>assume its the bush and not the bolt thats worn). I can rotate the
>>damper housing about 1/4" - 3/8" around the fixing bolt.
>>
>>The last owner put Monroe shocks on (all I know about them is that
>>they are made by Monroe and are yellow). From this is is it possible
>>to tell if they are oil / gas filled?
>>
>>More to the point, can you buy replacement bushes or do I have to
>>replace the damper? Hopefully I'll be able to buy the bushes but if
>>not should I put 2 new dampers on or try to get another the same as
>>the one coming off?
>>
>>None of the dampers are leaking and will all be at least 3 years old.
>>

>
>
> There's a good argument in favour of using the original spec cheap dampers
> (most are Armstrong) which cost something silly like 10 quid a piece or
> less, and replacing them fairly often.


Where did you see that kind of price? Or is it different for 90s and 110s?
I'm currently looking at some for a 110 and the cheapest I found was around
20 for rear and 23 for front (inc vat). Yes, Armstrongs.

Cheers,

Fred

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Old 11-23-2005, 06:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

On or around Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:21:43 +0000, Fred Labrosse <ffl@aber.ac.uk>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>>
>> There's a good argument in favour of using the original spec cheap dampers
>> (most are Armstrong) which cost something silly like 10 quid a piece or
>> less, and replacing them fairly often.

>
>Where did you see that kind of price? Or is it different for 90s and 110s?
>I'm currently looking at some for a 110 and the cheapest I found was around
>20 for rear and 23 for front (inc vat). Yes, Armstrongs.


Paddocks, normally. Not looked at 90/110 ones, I have to admit, recently. I
was talking about disco ones.

Paddock have early ones (up to WA159806) for 8.10, 90/110 front, ditto
rears. Not sure what the difference is on later ones after XA159807 -
bugger all, probably :-)

Beamends have early ones at 14.33 inc vat, later ones a few quid more -
cheaper than Paddock on the later ones, looks like.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:21:43 +0000, Fred Labrosse
> <ffl@aber.ac.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There's a good argument in favour of using the original spec cheap
>>> dampers (most are Armstrong) which cost something silly like 10 quid a
>>> piece or less, and replacing them fairly often.

>>
>>Where did you see that kind of price? Or is it different for 90s and
>>110s? I'm currently looking at some for a 110 and the cheapest I found was
>>around
>>20 for rear and 23 for front (inc vat). Yes, Armstrongs.

>
> Paddocks, normally. Not looked at 90/110 ones, I have to admit, recently.
> I was talking about disco ones.
>
> Paddock have early ones (up to WA159806) for 8.10, 90/110 front, ditto
> rears. Not sure what the difference is on later ones after XA159807 -
> bugger all, probably :-)
>
> Beamends have early ones at 14.33 inc vat, later ones a few quid more -
> cheaper than Paddock on the later ones, looks like.


From Beamends pages:

RSC100050 Front Shock Absorber - 110 & 130 from XA159807 Armstr 23.38
Inc VAT

RPM100080 Rear Shock Absorber - 110/130 from XA159807 Armstr 20.56 Inc
VAT

And the heavy duty one is only at 25.73. What's the difference?

Fred

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Old 11-23-2005, 11:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Dampers and their Bushes question - D90.

On or around Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:39:41 +0000, Fred Labrosse <ffl@aber.ac.uk>
enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> On or around Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:21:43 +0000, Fred Labrosse
>> <ffl@aber.ac.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>Austin Shackles wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a good argument in favour of using the original spec cheap
>>>> dampers (most are Armstrong) which cost something silly like 10 quid a
>>>> piece or less, and replacing them fairly often.
>>>
>>>Where did you see that kind of price? Or is it different for 90s and
>>>110s? I'm currently looking at some for a 110 and the cheapest I found was
>>>around
>>>20 for rear and 23 for front (inc vat). Yes, Armstrongs.

>>
>> Paddocks, normally. Not looked at 90/110 ones, I have to admit, recently.
>> I was talking about disco ones.
>>
>> Paddock have early ones (up to WA159806) for 8.10, 90/110 front, ditto
>> rears. Not sure what the difference is on later ones after XA159807 -
>> bugger all, probably :-)
>>
>> Beamends have early ones at 14.33 inc vat, later ones a few quid more -
>> cheaper than Paddock on the later ones, looks like.

>
>From Beamends pages:
>
>RSC100050 Front Shock Absorber - 110 & 130 from XA159807 Armstr 23.38
>Inc VAT
>
>RPM100080 Rear Shock Absorber - 110/130 from XA159807 Armstr 20.56 Inc
>VAT
>
>And the heavy duty one is only at 25.73. What's the difference?



dunno. nor do I know what the difference between "early" and "late" - some
of the aftermarket ones such as OME offer a single damper for all
applications...
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