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Old 11-05-2005, 06:01   #1 (permalink)
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Defender head-lights.

Any lighting gurus out there?

I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights the
light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud has
been washed off them.

Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs from
40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
the bonnet....

...I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on them
as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls and
bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.

Cheers,

M.


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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.

In message <9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
"McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Any lighting gurus out there?
>
> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights the
> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
> fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud has
> been washed off them.
>
> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs from
> 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
> the bonnet....
>
> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on them
> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls and
> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
> sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> M.
>
>


Seal beams were standard at that time.

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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.


"McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> Any lighting gurus out there?
>
> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights
> the
> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
> fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud
> has
> been washed off them.
>
> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs from
> 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
> the bonnet....
>
> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on
> them
> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls
> and
> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
> sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.


Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light units,
around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them, you WILL burn out
the main lighting switch, normally half way round a blind bend in the dark!
Fit Phillips vision-plus bulbs, 50% greater light output than std halogens
for the same wattage, excellent bulbs, came top in various reviews.
As for replacements, genuine Lucas are good, Ring are ok, last set of Wipac
I fitted were crap, now running Cibe Iode units, they're as good as the
Lucas ones. Remember it's not just the bulbs, but the reflector design and
quality that plays a big part.
Stay clear of the "crystal" units, you may have MOT issues due to no "E"
marking and no distinctive dip pattern.
Badger.


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Old 11-05-2005, 07:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:

>In message <9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
> "McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Any lighting gurus out there?
>>
>> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights the
>> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
>> fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud has
>> been washed off them.
>>
>> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs from
>> 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
>> the bonnet....
>>
>> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on them
>> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls and
>> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
>> sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> M.
>>
>>

>
>Seal beams were standard at that time.
>
><shameless plug>
>
>RTC4615K Halogen Conversion Kit - RHD - Pair 22.32 inc VAT
>
></shameless plug>
>
>Richard


and stick some osram silver star bulbs in 'em. lovely.

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Old 11-05-2005, 10:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.


"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:dkifgd$35u$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> > Any lighting gurus out there?
> >
> > I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights
> > the
> > light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
> > fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud
> > has
> > been washed off them.
> >
> > Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs

from
> > 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked

under
> > the bonnet....
> >
> > ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on
> > them
> > as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls
> > and
> > bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage

the
> > sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.

>
> Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light units,
> around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them, you WILL burn

out
> the main lighting switch, normally half way round a blind bend in the

dark!
> Fit Phillips vision-plus bulbs, 50% greater light output than std halogens
> for the same wattage, excellent bulbs, came top in various reviews.
> As for replacements, genuine Lucas are good, Ring are ok, last set of

Wipac
> I fitted were crap, now running Cibe Iode units, they're as good as the
> Lucas ones. Remember it's not just the bulbs, but the reflector design and
> quality that plays a big part.
> Stay clear of the "crystal" units, you may have MOT issues due to no "E"
> marking and no distinctive dip pattern.
> Badger.
>
>


Thanks all for responding so quickly. This is a superb newsgroup for
getting useful information fast.

Cheers,

M


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Old 11-05-2005, 10:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.

McBad wrote:
> "Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:dkifgd$35u$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>> Any lighting gurus out there?
>>>
>>> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark
>>> nights the
>>> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front
>>> bumper and fall on the road about five yards in front. This is
>>> even after the mud has
>>> been washed off them.
>>>
>>> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the
>>> bulbs from 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go,
>>> until I looked under the bonnet....
>>>
>>> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see
>>> on them
>>> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal
>>> bowls and
>>> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what
>>> wattage the sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts
>>> gratefully appreciated.

>>
>> Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light
>> units, around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them,
>> you WILL burn out the main lighting switch, normally half way round
>> a blind bend in the dark! Fit Phillips vision-plus bulbs, 50%
>> greater light output than std halogens for the same wattage,
>> excellent bulbs, came top in various reviews.
>> As for replacements, genuine Lucas are good, Ring are ok, last set
>> of Wipac I fitted were crap, now running Cibe Iode units, they're as
>> good as the Lucas ones. Remember it's not just the bulbs, but the
>> reflector design and quality that plays a big part.
>> Stay clear of the "crystal" units, you may have MOT issues due to no
>> "E" marking and no distinctive dip pattern.
>> Badger.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks all for responding so quickly. This is a superb newsgroup for
> getting useful information fast.
>
> Cheers,
>
> M


I have to agree, easily the best NG i know of! Mainly thanks to the top blokes who frequent it!

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Old 11-05-2005, 16:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:27:25 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light units,
>around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them,


I found that the switch from sealed beams to standard wattage halogens
was enough of an improvement and i didnt need to fit any more powerful
bulbs!
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Old 11-06-2005, 05:01   #8 (permalink)
NW
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Re: Defender head-lights.


"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>> Any lighting gurus out there?
>>
>> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights
>> the
>> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
>> fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud
>> has
>> been washed off them.
>>
>> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs
>> from
>> 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
>> the bonnet....
>>
>> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on
>> them
>> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls
>> and
>> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
>> sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.

>
> Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light units,
> around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them, you WILL burn
> out the main lighting switch, normally half way round a blind bend in the
> dark! Fit Phillips vision-plus bulbs, 50% greater light output than std
> halogens for the same wattage, excellent bulbs, came top in various
> reviews.
> As for replacements, genuine Lucas are good, Ring are ok, last set of
> Wipac I fitted were crap, now running Cibe Iode units, they're as good as
> the Lucas ones. Remember it's not just the bulbs, but the reflector design
> and quality that plays a big part.
> Stay clear of the "crystal" units, you may have MOT issues due to no "E"
> marking and no distinctive dip pattern.
> Badger.
>


I think you are right about quality. My last LR had a Lucas H4 headlight
upgrade and I was slightly disappointed to find that there were Wipac H4
lights on my latest one (Wipac being by tradition a "cheaper" make). I
thought it would probably not make much difference , but in fact dipped beam
is very poor, although main beam is ok. I too will be looking to change the
lenses soon.

Nick


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Old 11-06-2005, 10:01   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Defender head-lights.

....and beamendsltd spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

>> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark
>> nights the light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the
>> front bumper and fall on the road about five yards in front. This
>> is even after the mud has been washed off them.
>>

>
> RTC4615K Halogen Conversion Kit - RHD - Pair 22.32 inc VAT


Best 20-odd quid you could spend. Easy to swap, and the improvement is
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:01   #10 (permalink)
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"Badger" <brianhatton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "McBad" <mcbad@NOSPAMglobalnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9LqdneUHEv9mK_HenZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>> Any lighting gurus out there?
>>
>> I'm not impressed with the head-lights on my L reg 90, these dark nights
>> the
>> light seems to come out of the lamp, trickle across the front bumper and
>> fall on the road about five yards in front. This is even after the mud
>> has
>> been washed off them.
>>
>> Read a wee article in LROI workshop answers about upgrading the bulbs
>> from
>> 40/45w to 60/65w which seemed like a good way to go, until I looked under
>> the bonnet....
>>
>> ..I've got sealed beam units. There's no indication that I can see on
>> them
>> as to what their wattage is. How easy is it change back to normal bowls
>> and
>> bulbs? Is this likely to be an improvement (any guesses what wattage the
>> sbu's are likely to be?)? Cost? Any thoughts gratefully appreciated.

>
> Ditch the sealed beams, fit good quality halogen replacement light units,
> around 28 a set. DO NOT fit higher wattage bulbs to them, you WILL burn
> out the main lighting switch, normally half way round a blind bend in the
> dark! Fit Phillips vision-plus bulbs, 50% greater light output than std
> halogens for the same wattage, excellent bulbs, came top in various
> reviews.
> As for replacements, genuine Lucas are good, Ring are ok, last set of
> Wipac I fitted were crap, now running Cibe Iode units, they're as good as
> the Lucas ones. Remember it's not just the bulbs, but the reflector design
> and quality that plays a big part.
> Stay clear of the "crystal" units, you may have MOT issues due to no "E"
> marking and no distinctive dip pattern.
> Badger.
>

I got some "Ring" halogen lights, they are a bit poo (made in India) but
they were really cheep (got another set for spair).
Fitted some 60% brighter Ring xenon bulbs and now the light output is
excellent.
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