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Old 08-07-2005, 04:01   #1 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Disco 1 spare wheel

Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but -

Are the hubs the same on Discos with alloy and steel wheels? I have alloys
on the road wheels but the spare is a steel item. After a puncture in
france I managed to hobble the few kilometres to a garage with the alloy
wheelnuts holding the spare on, but I know that's not how it was designed.
I now have a set of steel wheelnuts. Will the hubs be OK with a steel wheel
and steel wheelnuts? I always assumed it would, but faced with a 500-mile
drive home on alloy nuts (I got the steel nuts immediately on return to the
UK) I began to be less sure and I'd like to be certain.

Also, did the alloy wheel Discos come from the factory with a steel spare,
or has someone half-inched it on the way?

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Old 08-07-2005, 05:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:46:59 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but -
>
>Are the hubs the same on Discos with alloy and steel wheels? I have alloys
>on the road wheels but the spare is a steel item. After a puncture in
>france I managed to hobble the few kilometres to a garage with the alloy
>wheelnuts holding the spare on, but I know that's not how it was designed.
>I now have a set of steel wheelnuts. Will the hubs be OK with a steel wheel
>and steel wheelnuts? I always assumed it would, but faced with a 500-mile
>drive home on alloy nuts (I got the steel nuts immediately on return to the
>UK) I began to be less sure and I'd like to be certain.
>
>Also, did the alloy wheel Discos come from the factory with a steel spare,
>or has someone half-inched it on the way?


My Disco 1 with alloys has a steel spare. Original AFAIK.
I have another Disco 1 that came with steels, but now has RRC alloys.
Its been like it for 5 years (I bought the wheels from a bloke on this
ng IIRC). I'm faily certain you can use the alloy nuts on the steels,
but not the other way around.

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Old 08-07-2005, 13:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

so Colonel Tupperware was, like...
> My Disco 1 with alloys has a steel spare. Original AFAIK.
> I have another Disco 1 that came with steels, but now has RRC alloys.
> Its been like it for 5 years (I bought the wheels from a bloke on this
> ng IIRC). I'm faily certain you can use the alloy nuts on the steels,
> but not the other way around.


I'm sure you're right, which is why I now have a set of both types of nut!
What I need to know is, is there any difference in the hubs? I'm sure there
isn't, but after almost getting caught with a 500-mile journey on the spare
I would like to be sure.

Thanks.
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

In message <3ln4f2F13fcfbU1@individual.net>
"Richard Brookman" <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:

> so Colonel Tupperware was, like...
> > My Disco 1 with alloys has a steel spare. Original AFAIK.
> > I have another Disco 1 that came with steels, but now has RRC alloys.
> > Its been like it for 5 years (I bought the wheels from a bloke on this
> > ng IIRC). I'm faily certain you can use the alloy nuts on the steels,
> > but not the other way around.

>
> I'm sure you're right, which is why I now have a set of both types of nut!
> What I need to know is, is there any difference in the hubs? I'm sure there
> isn't, but after almost getting caught with a 500-mile journey on the spare
> I would like to be sure.
>
> Thanks.


The hubs and studs are the same for alloy and steel. The Discovery I
did indeed come with a steel spare. As far as I know the alloy nuts
can be used with the steel wheels, on the basis that I don't
recall the vehicle being supplied with extra nuts in the tool kit.

Richard
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Old 08-08-2005, 08:02   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

On or around Mon, 8 Aug 2005 08:35:00 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<beamendsltd@btconnect.com> enlightened us thusly:

>
>The hubs and studs are the same for alloy and steel. The Discovery I
>did indeed come with a steel spare. As far as I know the alloy nuts
>can be used with the steel wheels, on the basis that I don't
>recall the vehicle being supplied with extra nuts in the tool kit.
>


The alloy nuts are very different and don't have the right taper - I'd not
be happy fitting steel wheels with 'em, meself. Steel nuts on alloy wheels
is of course a definite no-no.

not sure there weren't different stud lengths, BICBW.

Range Rover book says alloys have different studs, noted by a slot or
triangle on the end of the stud. It further says that early vehicles should
only be fitted with alloys provided the studs are replaced to suit. Could
well be that discos have alloy-type studs anyway... I'll go an look. Our
disco has steel wheels and "steel" nuts, which are just ordinary wheelnuts
and nothing like the "alloy" ones.

Ours does indeed have the marked studs, though.
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Old 08-08-2005, 09:01   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:07:08 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:

>What I need to know is, is there any difference in the hubs?


I'm certain there isn't. Like I said, I have a set of alloys fitted to
a vehicle that originally had steels. No problems.

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Old 08-08-2005, 11:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

so Colonel Tupperware was, like...
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 20:07:08 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
> <newsboy@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> What I need to know is, is there any difference in the hubs?

>
> I'm certain there isn't. Like I said, I have a set of alloys fitted to
> a vehicle that originally had steels. No problems.


Wot I thought then. Many thanks, Col.

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Old 08-08-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

so beamendsltd was, like...
> The hubs and studs are the same for alloy and steel. The Discovery I
> did indeed come with a steel spare. As far as I know the alloy nuts
> can be used with the steel wheels, on the basis that I don't
> recall the vehicle being supplied with extra nuts in the tool kit.
>
> Richard


I used the ally nuts with the steel spare for a gentle drive of about 5km to
a garage, but they looked so WRONG, sticking out like chapel hatpegs, like
something out of Gladiator. I would not have been happy driving all the way
back the UK with them. I'm happier with a set of steel nuts in the
glovebox.

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Old 08-08-2005, 14:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

On or around Mon, 8 Aug 2005 20:41:54 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<newsboy@nowhere.com> enlightened us thusly:

>so beamendsltd was, like...
>> The hubs and studs are the same for alloy and steel. The Discovery I
>> did indeed come with a steel spare. As far as I know the alloy nuts
>> can be used with the steel wheels, on the basis that I don't
>> recall the vehicle being supplied with extra nuts in the tool kit.
>>
>> Richard

>
>I used the ally nuts with the steel spare for a gentle drive of about 5km to
>a garage, but they looked so WRONG, sticking out like chapel hatpegs, like
>something out of Gladiator. I would not have been happy driving all the way
>back the UK with them. I'm happier with a set of steel nuts in the
>glovebox.


I don't see that they have enough taper on 'em to correctly locate the
wheels. Not that I've ever tried 'em, my disco had an alloy spare.
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Old 08-08-2005, 14:02   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 spare wheel

Richard Brookman wrote:
> Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but -
>
> Are the hubs the same on Discos with alloy and steel wheels? I have alloys
> on the road wheels but the spare is a steel item. After a puncture in
> france I managed to hobble the few kilometres to a garage with the alloy
> wheelnuts holding the spare on, but I know that's not how it was designed.
> I now have a set of steel wheelnuts. Will the hubs be OK with a steel wheel
> and steel wheelnuts? I always assumed it would, but faced with a 500-mile
> drive home on alloy nuts (I got the steel nuts immediately on return to the
> UK) I began to be less sure and I'd like to be certain.
>
> Also, did the alloy wheel Discos come from the factory with a steel spare,
> or has someone half-inched it on the way?
>


Hi Richard, you'll be pleased to know that the hubs are the same for
both steel and alloys.

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