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Old 12-22-2005, 09:01   #1 (permalink)
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Disco 1 steering problem

got a strange problem on my disco when driving around 50mph and over if you
turn the wheel as if to overtake there is a very slight delay before the
disco starts to turn and when it does it feels as if it turns faster than
you expect, its a very strange feeling. also the steering feels very light.
to confuse matters more it only has felt like this since i put new tyres on
the back, that might be a red herring though.
Checked the wheel bearings they seem fine, no real play in steering box or
steering column, checked track rod ends.
whats next to check-
panhard bushes?
swivel preload? (there is no vibration when driving)
or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine

paul.


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Old 12-22-2005, 09:01   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 steering problem

Paul came up with the following;:

> or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
> Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine


I'd swap front for rear wheels/tyres and try that ... easiest to try ...

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Old 12-22-2005, 09:01   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 steering problem


"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul came up with the following;:
>
>> or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
>> Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine

>
> I'd swap front for rear wheels/tyres and try that ... easiest to try ...
>
>


Check the front shocks, I drove a friends disco that did the exact same
thing when turning left only, it was the right front shock that had gone.
Badger.


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Old 12-22-2005, 12:01   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 steering problem

On or around Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:48:37 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
<brianhatton@btinternet.com> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4101tpF1cso1eU1@individual.net...
>> Paul came up with the following;:
>>
>>> or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
>>> Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine

>>
>> I'd swap front for rear wheels/tyres and try that ... easiest to try ...
>>
>>

>
>Check the front shocks, I drove a friends disco that did the exact same
>thing when turning left only, it was the right front shock that had gone.
>Badger.
>


PAS belt tightness and PAS fluid level worth a look as well.
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Old 12-22-2005, 12:01   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Disco 1 steering problem

I had a classic rangie that did this, it really felt quite unnerving, turned
out to be the rear axle ball joint. Isn't the easiest thing to check for
wear, but if you get a big bar and pry it to check for movement, if however
it is as bad as that one was, watch the rear tyre through the rear view
mirror at speed, you could see the body moving relative to the rear wheel,
not much but enough to cause some very iffy handling.


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Old 12-22-2005, 13:01   #6 (permalink)
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"Dad" <simon.cochran1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>I had a classic rangie that did this, it really felt quite unnerving,
>turned out to be the rear axle ball joint. Isn't the easiest thing to check
>for wear, but if you get a big bar and pry it to check for movement, if
>however it is as bad as that one was, watch the rear tyre through the rear
>view mirror at speed, you could see the body moving relative to the rear
>wheel, not much but enough to cause some very iffy handling.
>


i will try and check the a frame ball joint over the weekend. any ideas as
to how long it would take a fully equipped garage to change the ball joint,
1hr?


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Old 12-22-2005, 13:01   #7 (permalink)
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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:48:37 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
> <brianhatton@btinternet.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4101tpF1cso1eU1@individual.net...
>>> Paul came up with the following;:
>>>
>>>> or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
>>>> Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine
>>>
>>> I'd swap front for rear wheels/tyres and try that ... easiest to try ...
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Check the front shocks, I drove a friends disco that did the exact same
>>thing when turning left only, it was the right front shock that had gone.
>>Badger.
>>

>
> PAS belt tightness and PAS fluid level worth a look as well.
> --

on a 300tdi is the pas driven by the serpentine belt? if so then i think it
should be ok


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Old 12-22-2005, 13:01   #8 (permalink)
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"Dad" <simon.cochran1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>I had a classic rangie that did this, it really felt quite unnerving,
>turned out to be the rear axle ball joint. Isn't the easiest thing to check
>for wear, but if you get a big bar and pry it to check for movement, if
>however it is as bad as that one was, watch the rear tyre through the rear
>view mirror at speed, you could see the body moving relative to the rear
>wheel, not much but enough to cause some very iffy handling.
>


thinking about it more, i have noticed that when driving straight ahead it
does tend to wander very slightly so i will certainly check the ball joint.


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Old 12-22-2005, 14:01   #9 (permalink)
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On or around Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:06:41 -0000, "Paul"
<paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>news:o30mq1lmfbpf252sk31lsv8ni4rqg4n65e@4ax.com...
>> On or around Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:48:37 +0000 (UTC), "Badger"
>> <brianhatton@btinternet.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4101tpF1cso1eU1@individual.net...
>>>> Paul came up with the following;:
>>>>
>>>>> or could it be the back tyres upsetting the steering?
>>>>> Driving at slower speeds the steering feels fine
>>>>
>>>> I'd swap front for rear wheels/tyres and try that ... easiest to try ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Check the front shocks, I drove a friends disco that did the exact same
>>>thing when turning left only, it was the right front shock that had gone.
>>>Badger.
>>>

>>
>> PAS belt tightness and PAS fluid level worth a look as well.
>> --

> on a 300tdi is the pas driven by the serpentine belt? if so then i think it
>should be ok
>


good point.
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Old 12-22-2005, 15:01   #10 (permalink)
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"Paul" <paul.olivier@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dad" <simon.cochran1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:QiDqf.3047$r4.2400@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> >I had a classic rangie that did this, it really felt quite unnerving,
> >turned out to be the rear axle ball joint. Isn't the easiest thing to

check
> >for wear, but if you get a big bar and pry it to check for movement, if
> >however it is as bad as that one was, watch the rear tyre through the

rear
> >view mirror at speed, you could see the body moving relative to the rear
> >wheel, not much but enough to cause some very iffy handling.
> >

>
> thinking about it more, i have noticed that when driving straight ahead it
> does tend to wander very slightly so i will certainly check the ball

joint.

Also check the steering box adjustment. Another easy test if it only occured
after fitting new tyres is to drop a couple of pounds on your tyre
pressures.
TonyB
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>



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