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Old 09-09-2005, 13:02   #1 (permalink)
Alex Threlfall
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Discovery Towing Upgrades?

Hi All!

I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering if
there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed and
stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles, does
anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this sort of
milage?

Ta in advance!
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> Hi All!
>
> I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering if
> there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed and
> stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles, does
> anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this sort of
> milage?
>
> Ta in advance!


Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300. Makes
a useful difference to towing ability.

As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it alone.


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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #3 (permalink)
Alex Threlfall
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com says...
> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> > Hi All!
> >
> > I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering if
> > there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed and
> > stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles, does
> > anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this sort of
> > milage?
> >
> > Ta in advance!

>
> Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300. Makes
> a useful difference to towing ability.
>
> As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it alone.
>
>
>

Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind, my
colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+ without
any issues.

I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been very
squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said the
calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to drive,
are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an piston listed
as a part for the calipers, but a load of new calipers would set me back
a hefty ammount :D
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com
> says...
>> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
>>> Hi All!
>>>
>>> I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering
>>> if there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed
>>> and stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles,
>>> does anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this
>>> sort of milage?
>>>
>>> Ta in advance!

>>
>> Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300.
>> Makes a useful difference to towing ability.
>>
>> As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it
>> alone.
>>
>>
>>

> Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind,
> my colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+
> without any issues.
>
> I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been
> very squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said the
> calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to drive,
> are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an piston
> listed as a part for the calipers, but a load of new calipers would
> set me back a hefty ammount :D


Unless you are very unlucky, new pistons should do it. Calipers seem to
stay OK, and they should do at the price for a replacement! If stability is
a problem, I would check out the bushes first - anti-roll bars aren't really
a wear-and-tear item.

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S2a 88" SW
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #5 (permalink)
Alex Threlfall
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

In article <3oe8inF5hosjU1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com says...
> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> > In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com
> > says...
> >> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> >>> Hi All!
> >>>
> >>> I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering
> >>> if there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed
> >>> and stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles,
> >>> does anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this
> >>> sort of milage?
> >>>
> >>> Ta in advance!
> >>
> >> Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300.
> >> Makes a useful difference to towing ability.
> >>
> >> As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >>
> >>

> > Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind,
> > my colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+
> > without any issues.
> >
> > I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been
> > very squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said the
> > calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to drive,
> > are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an piston
> > listed as a part for the calipers, but a load of new calipers would
> > set me back a hefty ammount :D

>
> Unless you are very unlucky, new pistons should do it. Calipers seem to
> stay OK, and they should do at the price for a replacement! If stability is
> a problem, I would check out the bushes first - anti-roll bars aren't really
> a wear-and-tear item.
>
>

Gotcha, thanks. Any idea how long it would take someone to change the
pistons? Got royally ripped off when i got the brakes done last time
(took them 5.5 hours to change the discs+pads on all 4 wheels) hence why
I didn't want to get them to change the calipers!
Oh, and ditto with the bushes :) And do I go for OEM ones or Polybush?
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

Alex Threlfall wrote:
> In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com says...
>
>>so Alex Threlfall was, like...
>>
>>>Hi All!
>>>
>>>I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering if
>>>there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed and
>>>stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles, does
>>>anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this sort of
>>>milage?
>>>
>>>Ta in advance!

>>
>>Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300. Makes
>>a useful difference to towing ability.
>>
>>As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it alone.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind, my
> colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+ without
> any issues.
>
> I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been very
> squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said the
> calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to drive,
> are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an piston listed
> as a part for the calipers, but a load of new calipers would set me back
> a hefty ammount :D


Brake squeal may be something far more simple, like the garage forgot to
put the anti-squeal springs back in or forgot to put some copper grease
on the back of the pads. I'd check that first before forking out for
pistons anyway.

As the legal limit for towing is 60mph even on motorays maybe a bit of
instability at 55 will keep your speed down a bit ... and the rest of us
safe ;-))


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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #7 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> In article <3oe8inF5hosjU1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com
> says...
>> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
>>> In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com
>>> says...
>>>> so Alex Threlfall was, like...
>>>>> Hi All!
>>>>>
>>>>> I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering
>>>>> if there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed
>>>>> and stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles,
>>>>> does anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this
>>>>> sort of milage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ta in advance!
>>>>
>>>> Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my
>>>> 300. Makes a useful difference to towing ability.
>>>>
>>>> As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it
>>>> alone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind,
>>> my colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+
>>> without any issues.
>>>
>>> I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been
>>> very squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said
>>> the calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to
>>> drive, are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an
>>> piston listed as a part for the calipers, but a load of new
>>> calipers would set me back a hefty ammount :D

>>
>> Unless you are very unlucky, new pistons should do it. Calipers
>> seem to stay OK, and they should do at the price for a replacement!
>> If stability is a problem, I would check out the bushes first -
>> anti-roll bars aren't really a wear-and-tear item.
>>
>>

> Gotcha, thanks. Any idea how long it would take someone to change the
> pistons? Got royally ripped off when i got the brakes done last time
> (took them 5.5 hours to change the discs+pads on all 4 wheels) hence
> why I didn't want to get them to change the calipers!
> Oh, and ditto with the bushes :) And do I go for OEM ones or Polybush?


Actually, 5 hours isn't bad to do all that - it's better than I could do.
It's the hourly rate they charge that makes you think you've been ripped
off. UKP80 an hour is common.

Changing the pistons is pretty much a DIY job for a moderately experienced
home mechanic, or a mate with said experience who doesn't mind giving a
hand. Great care, great cleanliness, and allow plenty of time. There's
nothing mysterious about it. And your time is free!

Big debate on OEM/Polybush. No experience, so I'll leave that to someone
else.


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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #8 (permalink)
Alex Threlfall
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

In article <3oea9jF5k8c3U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com says...
> Actually, 5 hours isn't bad to do all that - it's better than I could do.
> It's the hourly rate they charge that makes you think you've been ripped
> off. UKP80 an hour is common.
>

Wasn't that bad actually, 175 in all...

> Changing the pistons is pretty much a DIY job for a moderately experienced
> home mechanic, or a mate with said experience who doesn't mind giving a
> hand. Great care, great cleanliness, and allow plenty of time. There's
> nothing mysterious about it. And your time is free!


Yes, need to get some experience doing this sort of thing :) Needs the
timing belt changed and servicing soon, though i'm hoping for a bit of a
skills swap with an company who do 4x4 services & spares :)
>
> Big debate on OEM/Polybush. No experience, so I'll leave that to someone
> else.
>
>

Fair enough, thanks for your advice!
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Old 09-09-2005, 14:02   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

In article <0omUe.105701$G8.74162@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, _@_._
says...
> Alex Threlfall wrote:
> > In article <3oe7qtF5isl6U1@individual.net>, newsboy@nowhere.com says...
> >
> >>so Alex Threlfall was, like...
> >>
> >>>Hi All!
> >>>
> >>>I currently have an 1996 (N) Discovery 300TDI, and I was wondering if
> >>>there are any upgrades that can be done to improve towing speed and
> >>>stability. This landie has also done in excess of 100K miles, does
> >>>anything in the sway bar department need replacing after this sort of
> >>>milage?
> >>>
> >>>Ta in advance!
> >>
> >>Just had a Jeremy Fearn intercooler and chip upgrade done to my 300. Makes
> >>a useful difference to towing ability.
> >>
> >>As to stability - is it unstable at the moment? If not, leave it alone.
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> > Yes, slightly when i get over about 55mph with the big genny behind, my
> > colleagues defender 110 (05 plate) will pull it happily at 70+ without
> > any issues.
> >
> > I don't know how much difference it makes, but the brakes have been very
> > squealy since i had them changed, the guy at the garage said the
> > calipers weren't in the best of shape, but that it was fine to drive,
> > are you able to replace part of the calipers? I've seen an piston listed
> > as a part for the calipers, but a load of new calipers would set me back
> > a hefty ammount :D

>
> Brake squeal may be something far more simple, like the garage forgot to
> put the anti-squeal springs back in or forgot to put some copper grease
> on the back of the pads. I'd check that first before forking out for
> pistons anyway.
>
> As the legal limit for towing is 60mph even on motorays maybe a bit of
> instability at 55 will keep your speed down a bit ... and the rest of us
> safe ;-))
>
>
>

Yup, but it would be nice to do 60 without the instability :) Time is
money unfortunatley!
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Old 09-09-2005, 15:01   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Discovery Towing Upgrades?

so Alex Threlfall was, like...

> > Yes, need to get some experience doing this sort of thing :) Needs the

> timing belt changed and servicing soon, though i'm hoping for a bit
> of a skills swap with an company who do 4x4 services & spares :)


Hmmm. Cambelt not in the same league as brake pistons! Mind, it's not a
massive job if you have it done - people recently have reported around the
150 quid mark.

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