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Old 08-15-2005, 14:01   #1 (permalink)
Rory Manton
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Epoxy Adhesive.

I saw on An MG is Born Mr Evens using a two part epoxy to glue bits onto the
vehicle. Now I understand that it is not for structural type repairs but I
could use it to add backing pieces to some of the rips and holes on my Srs11
tub prior to filling and repainting.

Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of some?

Thanks all.
Rory Manton

Oh gods, why me?


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Old 08-15-2005, 15:02   #2 (permalink)
Bill
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

In message <BF26B20B.17F91%rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk>, Rory Manton
<rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>I saw on An MG is Born Mr Evens using a two part epoxy to glue bits
>onto the vehicle. Now I understand that it is not for structural type
>repairs but I could use it to add backing pieces to some of the rips
>and holes on my Srs11 tub prior to filling and repainting.
>
>Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of
>some?


Don't know about this, but my 2.5 ton yacht is glued together and coated
with West or SP Systems epoxy resin from any good boat chandlers near
you. SP systems seems less visible nowadays.
It is now 20 years since we built it. Didn't fall apart in the strong
breeze on Sunday. For a boat, you mix the basic epoxy and then add
fillers (colloidal silica to stiffen it and milled wood fibres to give
it body). It's fine as long as it is covered by paint as light degrades
it.

I've glued bits of car together with it sometimes with fibreglass cloth,
but don't really know enough to recommend it for that.
--
Bill
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Old 08-15-2005, 15:03   #3 (permalink)
Dave Liquorice
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:56:43 +0000, Rory Manton wrote:

> ... a two part epoxy to glue ...

<snip>
> Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold
> of some?


erm, Araldite, any shed. Mind you there are more types and
formulations of epoxy than you can shake a stick at...

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Old 08-15-2005, 15:03   #4 (permalink)
Austin Shackles
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

On or around Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:43:58 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
<new5pam@howhill.com> enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:56:43 +0000, Rory Manton wrote:
>
>> ... a two part epoxy to glue ...

><snip>
>> Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold
>> of some?

>
>erm, Araldite, any shed. Mind you there are more types and
>formulations of epoxy than you can shake a stick at...


I quite like JB Weld "Epoxy Steel" meself. JB Kwik is the fast version. The
slow on has some fairly impressive stats for tensile strength etc. Though
not as strong as steel, mind. Used it before now to patch small holes in
petrol tanks - just smeared over the outside and it seemed to last
long-term.
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"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
- Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321) from Divina Commedia 'Inferno'
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Old 08-15-2005, 23:01   #5 (permalink)
Richard Brookman
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

so Austin Shackles was, like...
> On or around Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:43:58 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
> <new5pam@howhill.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:56:43 +0000, Rory Manton wrote:
>>
>>> ... a two part epoxy to glue ...

>> <snip>
>>> Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold
>>> of some?

>>
>> erm, Araldite, any shed. Mind you there are more types and
>> formulations of epoxy than you can shake a stick at...

>
> I quite like JB Weld "Epoxy Steel" meself. JB Kwik is the fast
> version. The slow on has some fairly impressive stats for tensile
> strength etc. Though not as strong as steel, mind. Used it before
> now to patch small holes in petrol tanks - just smeared over the
> outside and it seemed to last long-term.


JB Weld highly recommended. Used it to build up a corroded prop on a boat
until a new one could be found. You can grind and drill it like metal once
it's cured.

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Old 08-16-2005, 02:01   #6 (permalink)
Austin Shackles
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

On or around Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:49:11 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<newsboy@nowhere.com> enlightened us thusly:

>so Austin Shackles was, like...
>> On or around Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:43:58 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
>> <new5pam@howhill.com> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>
>> I quite like JB Weld "Epoxy Steel" meself. JB Kwik is the fast
>> version. The slow on has some fairly impressive stats for tensile
>> strength etc. Though not as strong as steel, mind. Used it before
>> now to patch small holes in petrol tanks - just smeared over the
>> outside and it seemed to last long-term.

>
>JB Weld highly recommended. Used it to build up a corroded prop on a boat
>until a new one could be found. You can grind and drill it like metal once
>it's cured.


Although it takes longer than you might think to get really hard, even the
fast one. Sets in about 10 minutes, but is not to full strength for at
least 6 hours, and 12-24 is better, and that's the quick one. 24 hours
minimum for the slow one.
--
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something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:01   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.


"Rory Manton" <rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:BF26B20B.17F91%rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk...
> I saw on An MG is Born Mr Evens using a two part epoxy to glue bits onto

the
> vehicle. Now I understand that it is not for structural type repairs but I
> could use it to add backing pieces to some of the rips and holes on my

Srs11
> tub prior to filling and repainting.
>
> Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of

some?



http://www.eurobond-adhesives.co.uk

Hope it helps.


Graeme




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Old 08-16-2005, 03:01   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

On Monday, in article
<hgt1g1p1qofj5am691c8lb7a85lqjnh8f9@4ax.com>
"@{m}@"@101fc.net "Mother" wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:56:43 +0000, Rory Manton
> <rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of some?

>
> Penloc 1:1 - about 8 quid for a 25ml dual-tube thingumie. They also
> do it in larger (applicator needed) sizes.
>
> This is used to bind the skin to an aircraft frame, so is fairly
> heavyweight stuff - and is also holding a fair amount of Grumble
> together...


There's so many varieties, but some military aircraft have the _wings_
glued on. They do have some rivets at each end of the seam to stop the
joint peeling apart, like pulling off a sticking plaster.

Surface preparation matters a lot, as with any glue or paint.

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Old 08-16-2005, 11:02   #9 (permalink)
Larry
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.

Yeah well it is epoxy resin and fibreglass matting that is holding my
footwells together and doing a good enough job for me not to worry about it.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Bill" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In message <BF26B20B.17F91%rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk>, Rory Manton
> <rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of
> >some?

>
> Don't know about this, but my 2.5 ton yacht is glued together and coated
> with West or SP Systems epoxy resin from any good boat chandlers near
> you. SP systems seems less visible nowadays.
> It is now 20 years since we built it. Didn't fall apart in the strong
> breeze on Sunday. For a boat, you mix the basic epoxy and then add
> fillers (colloidal silica to stiffen it and milled wood fibres to give
> it body). It's fine as long as it is covered by paint as light degrades
> it.
>
> I've glued bits of car together with it sometimes with fibreglass cloth,
> but don't really know enough to recommend it for that.
> --
> Bill



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Old 08-16-2005, 14:01   #10 (permalink)
Dom J
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Re: Epoxy Adhesive.



"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:hgt1g1p1qofj5am691c8lb7a85lqjnh8f9@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:56:43 +0000, Rory Manton
> <rory@griffon65.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Does anybody know the name of the stuff and where I could get hold of

some?
>
> Penloc 1:1 - about 8 quid for a 25ml dual-tube thingumie. They also
> do it in larger (applicator needed) sizes.
>
> This is used to bind the skin to an aircraft frame, so is fairly
> heavyweight stuff - and is also holding a fair amount of Grumble
> together...
>
> Although not sounding very much, a 25ml tube lasts ages as you really
> do not need very much at all. Mix it, wait 5 mins - rock solid, fly
> away...
>
> Google it to find the manufacturer. Crap website, but has a phone
> number (somewhere in Kent IIRC) and they'll sell small quantities.


This Penloc glue is good stuff. I use it on lifts.....not the importent
bits but the bits of steel protecting a marble lift enterence. So far it's
put up with roughly 4 years worth of puchchairs, trlooys banging into it.
It's so strong that if you hit the steel angle hard enough, the marble
breaks before the glue!!.

Dom J



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